Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I am the one who first posted that gif; I knew its size when I selected it.

Then you go and repost it in your reply to me in order to "inform me of its size? You clearly thought it was too large and then you cause it to appear twice. You were bellyaching about it while at the same time reposting it thereby making no sense whatsoever.

You can read my mind now. You are gifted too.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You can read my mind now. You are gifted too.

Well, the print is really large like that found in any pre-school primer.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Well, the print is really large like that found in any pre-school primer.

Just as well, I hear you4 vision goes in old age.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Just as well, I hear you4 vision goes in old age.

Most age related vision issues are easily corrected and having a friend who is an optometrist is an added perk.

It's the loss of bladder control that you really get to look forward to; it makes "piss taking", a favorite expression of yours, much more spontaneous.

Not that I would know, personally; no plumbing problems here...yet.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Most age related vision issues are easily corrected and having a friend who is an optometrist is an added perk.

It's the loss of bladder control that you really get to look forward to; it makes "piss taking", a favorite expression of yours, much more spontaneous.

Not that I would know, personally; no plumbing problems here...yet.

Yeah, I think you are safe there!

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Truth is the truth man.

Not when you haven’t answered the question it isn’t

[whipnet]

Hey guys,
I haven't been here for a while. Just curious if the question asked 829 pages ago has been answered.



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[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by whipnet

Hey guys,
I haven't been here for a while. Just curious if the question asked 829 pages ago has been answered.



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Good one

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Not when you haven’t answered the question it isn’t

Asked and answered.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by whipnet

Hey guys,
I haven't been here for a while. Just curious if the question asked 829 pages ago has been answered.



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I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of the usual suspects here have answered the OP's three summary questions at different times in the past.

Still a funny post on your part, tho, and this thread has definitely taken on a life of its own since the OP first penned his questions.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Asked and answered.

Ducked and dodged.

Fixed that for you.

I see that you still are causing those space hoggin' GIFs to be reposted when you quote people. It is obvious that you don't give a damn about your carbon footprint with all of your redundant GIF reposting. Your apathy not only harms our environment, you are also contributing to the death of the very movies that you claim to love along with the big color TVs that we watch them with. You hypocrite. You traitor.

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question; you know it well. It is the one that you avoid every time that I ask it:

If your many and entirely gloomy predictions have any merit (that was hard to type without laughing aloud), what are we supposed to do about them?

And a few equally avoided follow-up queries:

If these dismal outcomes are as inevitable as you imply, what is even the point of discussing them? Are we supposed to mourn the death of all we enjoy while they yet live? If so, why? What good comes of worrying about unavoidable fates?

I may as well start worrying about my death by your "logic" as it is an actual indisputable certainty. It seems better to me to enjoy our lives and all the many pleasures it contains than to squander our precious time pondering the pointless, such as the imagined and inescapable dooms that you foretell.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

A point I forgot to make yesterday was that if the current usage of video increases (obviously it will) it could match the Aviation section by 2030. The Aviation section is considered one of the biggest factors for the climate. Heck, they are talking about a levy/tax for frequent flyers. Don’t be surprised to see a tax for heavy internet users/streamers.

For the foreseeable future the aviation industry will be reliant on fossil fuels. We're not going to see electric passenger or cargo planes anytime soon.

Data centers, otoh, will be able to take advantage of alternate power sources (wind, solar, nuclear, what have you) as they become increasingly available.

If carbon emissions get taxed data centers will have alternatives that aviation does not.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Don’t you see though, once you start sticking taxes on things, usage will go down and 4K will be frowned upon. It’s a backwards step, just like digital.

And that's a Good Thing, right?

If taxing The Bad Thing That Will Destroy All We Hold Dear results in fewer people using The Bad Thing That Will Destroy All We Hold Dear then we should all be celebrating that prospect, shouldn't we?

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

If anything we should be happy about increases in internet prices because it means that some people who care about watching in HD or 4K may switch over to physical media instead as a more affordable option.

Exactly. Even people who don't particularly care about HD or 4K will move to discs if streaming and/or digital purchasing becomes more expensive.
Demand for a given good will increase if the price of substitutes rise.

This is basic Principles of Microeconomics stuff.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Also, what’s the point of a big tv if you can’t afford to stream HD or 4K? I say sizes go down at that point. Back to the 32 inch era.

There were projectors and 50+ inch screens back in ye olde standard definition days. There are people today feeding standard definition sources to their big screen TVs.

And for the people who do care about HD and 4K? Well, we can just keep buying bigger and bigger TVs and keep buying discs, no?

Originally Posted by whipnet

Hey guys,
I haven't been here for a while. Just curious if the question asked 829 pages ago has been answered.

[Vilya]

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The above is a picture of my home theater in 1991. The awesomely large 48" TV is a front projection Sony that my brother law-in gave to me when he upgraded; it is a model from the mid 1980s and at the time I thought a screen that size was amazing despite its lower than even DVD resolution. We loved big screens way back then as much as we do now. The actual best TV in that room for picture quality was the 26" Mitsubishi TV on the far left, but it seemed so small compared to the old Sony.

Three items in this picture are still in my home theater today!

[octagon]

One move ago I had to put my two CRT projectors in basement storage and this past move I decided to just leave them there. They were too heavy and bulky to move just so they could take up space in a storage shed.

There really isn't anything useful (or even decorative) I could have done with them in the new place (and they were in storage at the old place for over ten years) but abandoning them still broke my heart. Those things threw many a DVD onto a 94" screen in their day.

At least my last SD set (a 36" Sony Wega) found a good home with my brother-in-law. They actually held onto it until a few years ago.

Good times.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by octagon

If taxing The Bad Thing That Will Destroy All We Hold Dear results in fewer people using The Bad Thing That Will Destroy All We Hold Dear then we should all be celebrating that prospect, shouldn't we?


There were projectors and 50+ inch screens back in ye olde standard definition days. There are people today feeding standard definition sources to their big screen TVs.

The underlined paragraph nearly made me spit out my iced tea with laughter!

I only recently helped an older couple set-up their two brand new 65" 4K TVs, his and her TVs, and what do they mostly watch on them? They mostly watch their standard definition cable TV channels even though they also receive the high definition version of those same channels; the low def channels are listed first in the on-screen channel guide, so that's what they watch.

The wife at least has a blu-ray player connected to hers and she still buys blu-ray discs. I offered to let them try my Netflix subscription out to see if they would like to stream, but they both told me that they had no interest in such things. They bought my lunch and insisted that I accept $20 for my time, bless 'em.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Installed in early 1985, Kloss Novabeam Model 1A. Screen was 78" dia. Had blackout drapes behind main drapes for almost total light control. The Crown and Hafler audio amps still in daily use. The Crown DC-300 was purchased July, 1972.

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[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

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The above is a picture of my home theater in 1991. The awesomely large 48" TV is a front projection Sony that my brother law-in gave to me when he upgraded; it is a model from the mid 1980s and at the time I thought a screen that size was amazing despite its lower than even DVD resolution. We loved big screens way back then as much as we do now. The actual best TV in that room for picture quality was the 26" Mitsubishi TV on the far left, but it seemed so small compared to the old Sony.

Three items in this picture are still in my home theater today!

What is the Slender Man doing in the middle of your room?

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The above is a picture of my home theater in 1991.

Nice!!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What is the Slender Man doing in the middle of your room?

Whatever he wants, whatever he wants....

It is why I had to move away! Lisle, Illinois was such a scary place!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Installed in early 1985, Kloss Novabeam Model 1A. Screen was 78" dia. Had blackout drapes behind main drapes for almost total light control. The Crown and Hafler audio amps still in daily use. The Crown DC-300 was purchased July, 1972.

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Even in 1985 you had the nicest toys!

It is fantastic that you have a 47 year-old amp still in service; proof that quality components are worth their cost.