The Incredibles (2004)

[RedRanger]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Man, what an awesome blu ray release! I have not watched this movie in quite a few years in anticipation of a blu release and it was worth the wait!

Did the same. I haven't watched it in about three years in anticipation of the blu. This is my favorite disney film hands down.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by RedRanger

Did the same. I haven't watched it in about three years in anticipation of the blu. This is my favorite disney film hands down.

Same here Definitely my favorite Disney/Pixar film.

[madmojo]

I got my copy to work the other day. Apparently my Blu-ray player just needed a lens cleaning.

Still my favorite Pixar movie, and watching it in such quality with such booming sound just makes the movie that much better. The bonus features were good too.

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by Falconer

I like The Incredibles a lot, but I would never rank it among Pixar's best. It has a few missteps concerning the script. The biggest of which is the sheer coincidence that Mr. Incredible gets free from Sindrome because Sindrome just plain messed up and threw Mr. Incredible away. Then Sindrome assumes Mr. Incredible is dead and never bothers to verify, even considering he is presumably the greatest of all the supers. This is just lazy screenwriting - especially by Pixar's standards. On top of that, Frozone was really wasted. He helped out in the beginning and showed up later at the end, but did absolutely nothing for the whole second act. He could have easily been worked out of the movie and the story of the family would not be impacted in the slightest.

The picture quality on the blu-ray is very good, but I agree with the site's review of 4.5 instead of a perfect 5. I watched this and Cars on back-to-back nights, and let me tell you...Cars just dominates The Incredibles in terms of striking visuals.

Syndrome sent a probe to investigate if Mr Incredible had been killed. The probe found only Gazer Beams body and mistook it for Mr Incredible. It's not lazy script writing its a major plot point. Syndrome depended on technology to make up for the fact he didnt have super powers. Failures in this technology defeated him again and again. The first robot failed. His automated restraint system was defeated by Violets power. His rocket boots failed him. His remote control device failed to control the robot.

As to Frozone, supers were no longer allowed to operate by government mandate. Also the second act occurred mostly on the island.

[Falconer]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

Syndrome sent a probe to investigate if Mr Incredible had been killed. The probe found only Gazer Beams body and mistook it for Mr Incredible. It's not lazy script writing its a major plot point. Syndrome depended on technology to make up for the fact he didnt have super powers. Failures in this technology defeated him again and again. The first robot failed. His automated restraint system was defeated by Violets power. His rocket boots failed him. His remote control device failed to control the robot.

You forgot the part about the cape...but I understand the point that was being made. However, it was certainly not the most dramatically satisfying way to tell the story. No film should have a villain who defeats himself. We all want the hero to struggle and fight hard to defeat the villain. It's emotionally cathartic and seeing the hardship the hero faces in the fight to stop the antagonist is why we root for such characters. A hero who has it easy does not elicit the same emotion as one who struggles against impossible odds and still comes out victorious. Look at any sports film for reference.

The hero getting lucky by coincidence has never benefited any cinematic story, ever.

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by Falconer

You forgot the part about the cape...but I understand the point that was being made. However, it was certainly not the most dramatically satisfying way to tell the story. No film should have a villain who defeats himself. We all want the hero to struggle and fight hard to defeat the villain. It's emotionally cathartic and seeing the hardship the hero faces in the fight to stop the antagonist is why we root for such characters. A hero who has it easy does not elicit the same emotion as one who struggles against impossible odds and still comes out victorious. Look at any sports film for reference.

The hero getting lucky by coincidence has never benefited any cinematic story, ever.

I agree that having his assets frozen by the government certainly wasnt a satisfying victory by the Incredibles. I actually loved the thing with the cape tho after Edna went on about it.

[spidy]

Originally Posted by Falconer

I like The Incredibles a lot, but I would never rank it among Pixar's best. It has a few missteps concerning the script. The biggest of which is the sheer coincidence that Mr. Incredible gets free from Sindrome because Sindrome just plain messed up and threw Mr. Incredible away. Then Sindrome assumes Mr. Incredible is dead and never bothers to verify, even considering he is presumably the greatest of all the supers. This is just lazy screenwriting - especially by Pixar's standards. On top of that, Frozone was really wasted. He helped out in the beginning and showed up later at the end, but did absolutely nothing for the whole second act. He could have easily been worked out of the movie and the story of the family would not be impacted in the slightest...

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

Syndrome sent a probe to investigate if Mr Incredible had been killed. The probe found only Gazer Beams body and mistook it for Mr Incredible. It's not lazy script writing its a major plot point. Syndrome depended on technology to make up for the fact he didnt have super powers. Failures in this technology defeated him again and again. The first robot failed. His automated restraint system was defeated by Violets power. His rocket boots failed him. His remote control device failed to control the robot.

As to Frozone, supers were no longer allowed to operate by government mandate. Also the second act occurred mostly on the island.

I think Falconer just didn't understand what happened. Even Syndrome said when he caught Mr. Incredible that he was geeking out over him hiding behind the bones of another Super (Gazer Beam). I don't see the lazy screen writing here. Actually that's pretty clever. Look at any other Super hero movie and you'll find plot holes. I guarantee they are there in TDK as well.

As for Frozone he's a friend of the family. This was a super hero movie about a family and he's a friend. I think Falconer's disappointment isn't due to plot holes but rather he had different expectations from this film and enjoy it for what it is. Which BTW is one of the best super hero movies out there.

Originally Posted by Falconer

You forgot the part about the cape...but I understand the point that was being made. However, it was certainly not the most dramatically satisfying way to tell the story. No film should have a villain who defeats himself. We all want the hero to struggle and fight hard to defeat the villain. It's emotionally cathartic and seeing the hardship the hero faces in the fight to stop the antagonist is why we root for such characters. A hero who has it easy does not elicit the same emotion as one who struggles against impossible odds and still comes out victorious. Look at any sports film for reference.

The hero getting lucky by coincidence has never benefited any cinematic story, ever.

The ending of most Superhero movies in most cases isn't satisfying. In Iron Man Tony Stark was "lucky" as well. In Spiderman 2 Doc Ock was part of the hero. In TDK Batman ran away with his tail between his legs in a sense. In all those cases I saw the hero as defeated in a sense but I never felt that was the case with the Incredibles.

[disneyfreak]

I kno this is random, but can any1 find a clip or a Audio that i can watch with just edna saying Words are useless gobble gobble gobble

[mgilliland]

I gotta say I love Target's customer service. My local store only received two copies of the Incredibles last week (which were sold instantly) and gave me a rain check. They didn't get any more in until yesterday, which made me mad because the DMR coupon had expired already. Well I brought it with me anyway and the girl at Guest Services applied the coupon anyway! I also had a $15 Target Gift Card I had gotten from my bank so total cost to me: $3.88. Score!

[Falconer]

Originally Posted by spidy

Look at any other Super hero movie and you'll find plot holes. I guarantee they are there in TDK as well.

As for Frozone he's a friend of the family. This was a super hero movie about a family and he's a friend.

First of all, TDK is a horrendously flawed film that is no doubt full of plot holes and downright awful screenwriting.

As for Frozone, I simply wanted him to have a more important role in the overall story instead of simply being the guy that shows up now and then to freeze stuff. Simply put, he was not utilized to the fullest extent possible, and it definitely felt that way. I wanted his involvement in the film to be absolutely essential, as every character from every great film is. Frozone was not essential.

Originally Posted by spidy

The ending of most Superhero movies in most cases isn't satisfying. In Iron Man Tony Stark was "lucky" as well. In Spiderman 2 Doc Ock was part of the hero.

Tony Stark did not simply get lucky. A major recurring theme of the first Iron Man film (the good one) is that, while machines can do things humans can't, they will never be smarter than a human. This is exactly how Stark was able to defeat the villain in that film - intelligence. It wasn't just robots slugging each other. There is a lot more going on beneath the surface and on the surface, which is a primary reason why that film resonated with so many people.

[spidy]

Originally Posted by Falconer

First of all, TDK is a horrendously flawed film that is no doubt full of plot holes and downright awful screenwriting.

As for Frozone, I simply wanted him to have a more important role in the overall story instead of simply being the guy that shows up now and then to freeze stuff. Simply put, he was not utilized to the fullest extent possible, and it definitely felt that way. I wanted his involvement in the film to be absolutely essential, as every character from every great film is. Frozone was not essential.

Frozone was great and I agree with you that I would have liked to see more of him but to me it still didn't lessen the film in any way. Just my take though.

Tony Stark did not simply get lucky. A major recurring theme of the first Iron Man film (the good one) is that, while machines can do things humans can't, they will never be smarter than a human. This is exactly how Stark was able to defeat the villain in that film - intelligence. It wasn't just robots slugging each other. There is a lot more going on beneath the surface and on the surface, which is a primary reason why that film resonated with so many people.

When Iron Man was on the roof with Iron Monger Tony was left too open for him to walk away undamaged as he was (let alone being alive). Pepper was left to race out of a room with electricity everywhere yet she she didn't get electrocuted. It was a bit far fetched and at least to me the ending was less than satisfying. The remainder of the movie was fantastic but just needed a little more action thrown in. Despite this it's still in my top list of super hero favorites.

[cubs_2000]

Is anyone else having Audio problems with the DC? The sound is very low even with the volume all the way up on my comupter and Ipad. Is there any way to fix this?

[nathan_393]

I think a lot of DC's are like that for some reason. I've noticed it with the ones that I have on my iPod.

Regarding DC's, I'm starting to think about getting rid of them. I never watch them and have little use for them - why do I keep putting them on my computer and wasting several gb of hard drive space?

[IForEverLoveMyFamily]

Originally Posted by cubs_2000

Is anyone else having Audio problems with the DC? The sound is very low even with the volume all the way up on my comupter and Ipad. Is there any way to fix this?

Yup. this is due to them mastering the DC's in a single "Monoural" track instead of a good proper 2-channel stereo mix. they did the very same thing with the DC in the Toy Story 3 4-disc combo pack and the sound sucks. why they do this IDK . great video for a DC only to be ruined by a lazy choice of an audio mix to go with it .

It's confusing since the DC's are redeemed and downloaded via the iTunes Store and the iTunes Store always provide stereo mixes for their movies. i don't get it .

[Darkhawk9587]

I just watched this again on Saturday. I really do hope they eventually make a sequel to it (but only if it is worthy to be so).

[jwerk]

When I put disc 2 in, I see the Disney castle, then the screen goes black, the machine says PLAY...nothin'. I have been staring at a blank screen for about 30 minutes.

Has anyone else encountered this?

Samsung BDP-1590
firmware up-to-date

[Mithrandir-Grey]

hello everyone on here has probably already got the movie reward code but if there is anyone interested pm me. i don't need it as i live in the UK.

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by faerieoftheforest

hello everyone on here has probably already got the movie reward code but if there is anyone interested pm me. i don't need it as i live in the UK.

You could use it to watch the movie online and to download the digital copy on your pc. That's what I did

[RazMansReality]

Finally got mine yesterday! Still my favorite Pixar film all time, why they haven't made a sequel still boggles my mind. Picture & audio quality 5/5! Still making my way though the special features.

[rezpekt]

Disney hasn't released 2 disc editions in my region for years, saying we don't need special features. And now they are doing the same for the rest of the world? So far only the (overpriced) North American release has included the special features disc. Oh well, I'll have to wait until it drops to a reasonable price...