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PH3AR · 07-15-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Icedburden

And Dragonforce speeds up the guitars in studio apparently.

Yea they do, i thought they were amazing guitariest until i saw them live theyre not that fast and i read somewhere online they speed it up in the studio, im suprised they still have a fanbase even after everyone found that out

bandit29 · 07-15-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelmaker

It's like BB King once said, the idea is to make your guitar "talk" to people.

Very true.

Shredding is ok with me as long as there is some kind of balance from the band.
A band like Firewind, for example. They know when to turn it on/off. Unlike Dragonforce where every song is the same BPM. With the same Nintendo solos..

Dimebag could rip it up or groove out. He got it. It is not always about how fast you play.

Constant shredding is annoying. And very boring to watch in person.

PH3AR · 07-15-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelmaker

I appreciate their talent, but I'd much rather listen to guitarists like...

Jimmy Hendrix
Jimmy Page
David Gilmour
Joe Perry
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Angus Young
Jeff Beck
Brian May
Ace Frehley
George Harrison
Carlos Santana
Neil Schon
Peter Townsend
Keith Richards

No Dimebag?No Eddie Van Halen? You forgot the two best guitarist ever!

Steelmaker · 07-15-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bandit29

Very true.

Shredding is ok with me as long as there is some kind of balance from the band.
A band like Firewind, for example. They know when to turn it on/off. Unlike Dragonforce where every song is the same BPM. With the same Nintendo solos..

Dimebag could rip it up or groove out. He got it. It is not always about how fast you play.

Constant shredding is annoying. And very boring to watch in person.

Exactly!! Dimebag is a terrific example of a metal guitarist who knew the importance of playing with feel! It's the difference between someone who actually has something to "say" with their guitar as opposed to someone who just wants to show off.

Steelmaker · 07-15-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PH3AR

No Dimebag?No Eddie Van Halen? You forgot the two best guitarist ever!

Oh believe me, I could've made my list longer. You're right, those two are right up there! My mistake!! I also forgot to mention Randy Rhoads, Tony Iommi, and Richie Blackmore.

Icedburden · 07-15-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Exactly!! Dimebag is a terrific example of a metal guitarist who knew the importance of playing with feel! It's the difference between someone who actually has something to "say" with their guitar as opposed to someone who just wants to show off.

The three I mentioned before are in the same ilk as Dimebag....Symphony X, Malmsteen and Impellitteri do the same, just not as often.

Steelmaker · 07-15-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Icedburden

The three I mentioned before are in the same ilk as Dimebag....Symphony X, Malmsteen and Impellitteri do the same, just not as often.

Michael Romeo, Malmsteen, and Impellitteri are too "neo classical" for me. Less feeling, more technical wizardry. I would even put John Petrucci in this category.

PH3AR · 07-15-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Oh believe me, I could've made my list longer. You're right, those two are right up there! My mistake!! I also forgot to mention Randy Rhoads, Tony Iommi, and Richie Blackmore.

how could i forget him too!

Icedburden · 07-15-2009, 10:09 PM

Jake E. Lee as well...Has anyone listened to his Badlands project??? Best blues metal band ever, bar none.

Jellybeans · 07-15-2009, 10:20 PM

Psychonaut · 07-15-2009, 10:31 PM

bandit29 · 07-16-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Icedburden

Jake E. Lee as well...Has anyone listened to his Badlands project??? Best blues metal band ever, bar none.

Ya back in the day I did. They were ok. Haven't heard them in years. The singer died from an anuerism, iirc.

ozzman · 07-16-2009, 12:57 AM

I didn`t mind Jake E Lee in OZZY and i bought his first Album in Badlands.
But i still give the honors to Zak

Icedburden · 07-16-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bandit29

Ya back in the day I did. They were ok. Haven't heard them in years. The singer died from an anuerism, iirc.

Ray Gillen died from AIDS. He left us way too early.

Steelmaker · 07-16-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ozzman

I didn`t mind Jake E Lee in OZZY and i bought his first Album in Badlands.
But i still give the honors to Zak

My biggest gripes with Zak is that he is predictable and overuses that pinched harmonic sound effect in his playing. I actually think he's a little overrated.

bandit29 · 07-16-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Icedburden

Ray Gillen died from AIDS. He left us way too early.

Oh..got my info screwed up.

As far as Zakk Wylde goes...good but predictable, BLS is ok. Seen them a few times. Seen Zakk with Ozzy in 88 (with Anthrax) and the No More Tours Tour in 92(with Slaughter and Faster *****cat...just awful)... lol. Another time at an Ozzfest.

The only Zakk era Ozzy album I really like was the first, No Rest for the Wicked.

edit Umm why cant I type the word Faster *****cat? Its the name of a lame glam band lol

Trogdor2010 · 07-16-2009, 04:26 AM

Being a newcomer in Metal Music (Go ahead), since I became interested in it with Rock Band and Strong Bad (Trogdor anyone?), what would be good to start out with (No punk, Emo or Nu-Metal, I don't like that kind), but I did enjoy that song from Mastodon, colony of Birchman and Megadeth, Peace sells for example, although I'm a big fan of Classical and Classic Rock.

Icedburden · 07-16-2009, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor2010

Being a newcomer in Metal Music (Go ahead), since I became interested in it with Rock Band and Strong Bad (Trogdor anyone?), what would be good to start out with (No punk, Emo or Nu-Metal, I don't like that kind), but I did enjoy that song from Mastodon, colony of Birchman and Megadeth, Peace sells for example, although I'm a big fan of Classical and Classic Rock.

I would say a good starting point would be possibly Firewind's Alliegance or Forged By Fire. Masterplan's self titled debut or Aeronautics would be excellent as well. If you want heavy, fast and can stand or like high pitched vocals try Mercyful Fate's 9 as a starter there. For straight thrash try Iced Earth's Burnt Offerings or Alive In Athens along with Overkill's Killbox Xlll or The Years Of Decay. For death metal, I'd say Death's Sound of Perseverance is a solid start as well.

Steelmaker · 07-16-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor2010

Being a newcomer in Metal Music (Go ahead), since I became interested in it with Rock Band and Strong Bad (Trogdor anyone?), what would be good to start out with (No punk, Emo or Nu-Metal, I don't like that kind), but I did enjoy that song from Mastodon, colony of Birchman and Megadeth, Peace sells for example, although I'm a big fan of Classical and Classic Rock.

Start with the "godfathers" of metal. Look into Black Sabbath (mainly the Ozzy and Dio eras), Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden. Those are 3 of the best! Also check out all of Metallica's early catalogue. Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ....And Justice For All. Also check out Iced Earth! Especially albums like Burnt Offerings, Something Wicked This Way Comes, and The Dark Saga.

These will give you a great foundation to start with.

If you're a fan of classical, check out Symphony X. They are a kick ass neo-classical/progressive metal band.

scweb13 · 07-16-2009, 01:24 PM

I would also recommend Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss and Carcass - Heartwork. 2 of my favorite metal albums and still listened to often.

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07-15-2009, 10:09 PM	#169
Icedburden Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Baltimore, MD Home Theater Gallery:87 Blu-ray collection:942 DVD collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:62	Jake E. Lee as well...Has anyone listened to his Badlands project??? Best blues metal band ever, bar none.

07-15-2009, 10:20 PM	#170
Jellybeans Banned Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Montreal, Canada Blu-ray collection:140 Trading Score:1

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07-16-2009, 12:57 AM	#173
ozzman Power Member Member since:May 2008 Location:St. Catharines ONT Home Theater Gallery:37	I didn`t mind Jake E Lee in OZZY and i bought his first Album in Badlands. But i still give the honors to Zak

07-16-2009, 04:26 AM	#177
Trogdor2010 Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Mar 2009 Home Theater Gallery:45 Blu-ray collection:266	Being a newcomer in Metal Music (Go ahead), since I became interested in it with Rock Band and Strong Bad (Trogdor anyone?), what would be good to start out with (No punk, Emo or Nu-Metal, I don't like that kind), but I did enjoy that song from Mastodon, colony of Birchman and Megadeth, Peace sells for example, although I'm a big fan of Classical and Classic Rock.

07-16-2009, 01:24 PM	#180
scweb13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Everett, WA 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:512 DVD collection:29 Trading Score:4	I would also recommend Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss and Carcass - Heartwork. 2 of my favorite metal albums and still listened to often.

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