Conan the Barbarian (1982) / Conan the Destroyer (1984) - Page 9 - Blu-ray Forum

darthmaul1 · 05-20-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by iluvrice2

Destroyer Day 1 Purchase

Barbarian $4 at BB 5 for $20 Sale

Destroyer is by far the more entertaining movie of the two. It's so campy, there's almost an Indiana Jones quality to it. It has by far the more memorable lines:

"I grab him, and I take him!"

"It's just writing on the wall!"

"Enough talk!"

And just numerous simple barbarian moments from Arnold.

Yes, everything about Barbarian is more polished, better directed, etc. but for God's sake you have Arnold playing the lead in a dramatic role. That's just not going to work. And it didn't work in Barbarian.

Obviously in the minority here, but I know which one I always have the better time watching with friends.

Whoa!! Barbarian is a way better film and has way better lines.

The whole "what is best in life" kills destroyer.

"Crom!!"

"Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!"

Banger · 05-21-2011, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blucheesefinder

they are now $17.99 each on Amazon

That's a taaaaaad steep for Conan, The Destroyer.

Banger · 05-21-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by darthmaul1

Whoa!! Barbarian is a way better film and has way better lines.

The whole "what is best in life" kills destroyer.

"Crom!!"

"Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!"

I think you both forgot the greatest quote of both films:

Man says -
CONAN! What is BEST in life?

Conan -
CRUSH ENEMIES,
SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU!
AND HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN!

Man says - That is good.

wormraper · 05-21-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Banger

That's a taaaaaad steep for Conan, The Destroyer.

agreed. I'd pay that much for both of them, but not each one... blech

Morsoth · 05-21-2011, 03:04 AM

Oh, totally forgot the "Kull the Conqueror" movie, another movie based on the Robert E. Howard fictional realm along with "Red Sonja". "Kull" is still in my DVD collection, but I wouldn't mind update it with a Blu-ray even if it's not a classic.

Anyway, I pre-ordered "Conan the Barbarian" and "Conan the Destroyer".

"Destroyer" was my favorite when I was a kid, I looked so much like the role playing games "Hero Quest" or "Dungeons & Dragons" !

dolemiteslap · 05-21-2011, 05:31 PM

I think it will be safe to assume that these films will both be $9.99 or lower by Christmas. If so, I'll definitely be getting the first Conan which is probably one of the best fantasy films ever made and in some ways surpasses its source material by creating a sometimes vulnerable and relatable lead character instead of the indestructible homoerotic death machine that he was in the novels. I also hope the Bluray will have the far superior theatrical cut instead of the pacing killing directors cut. And yes, the sequel Destroyer is terrible.

kernel_thai · 05-21-2011, 10:11 PM

Im kinda surprised they arent packaging them.

#Darren · 05-21-2011, 10:26 PM

So this release of CTB will be a THIRD cut. Not the US or the European but rather an extended version of the European.

FLTWS · 05-21-2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Poshteh1

Red Sonja has been available here in the UK for almost a year now, and if you want it I would suggest importing, it's very cheap currently, only £6.99 which is roughly $11.33 (today's conversion rate, shipping not taken into account).

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Sonja-Blu-ray/11208/

Is it region free? Thanks.

DetroitSportsFan · 05-22-2011, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FLTWS

Is it region free? Thanks.

Yes.

If you're an Arnold fan, they also released Raw Deal (also region free).

FLTWS · 05-22-2011, 10:58 AM

Thanks. I enjoy Ahnuld's stuff for the most part, however, caught the last third of "Destroyer" last nite after the ball game on AMC. Forgot how bad that one is.

Located a copy of Sonya, ordered.

Banger · 05-22-2011, 04:13 PM

Yeah, I bought Barbarian and Destroyer as a packaged dvd.
I still love the first one, but Destroyer is just bad. Really bad. They tried to bring the funny too much throughout the film. Plus the score is subpar compared to Basil Poledouris' masterpiece for Barbarian.

I can't believe he also did Destroyer.

kernel_thai · 05-22-2011, 08:39 PM

CtB was a labor of love while CtD was about making money.

FLTWS · 05-23-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Banger

Yeah, I bought Barbarian and Destroyer as a packaged dvd.
I still love the first one, but Destroyer is just bad. Really bad. They tried to bring the funny too much throughout the film. Plus the score is subpar compared to Basil Poledouris' masterpiece for Barbarian.

I can't believe he also did Destroyer.

The score on Destroyer sounded like it was taken from a bootleg 8-track tape of the original. The recent re-recording of the complete film score on Prometheus XPCD 169 is outstanding.

Dotpattern · 05-23-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FLTWS

The score on Destroyer sounded like it was taken from a bootleg 8-track tape of the original. The recent re-recording of the complete film score on Prometheus XPCD 169 is outstanding.

I think the Destroyer score suffered from a smaller orchestra due to a smaller budget. At least, that's what it sounds like to me. I agree with you about the new Prometheus recording.

Socko · 05-23-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas R

The US release had a mono soundtrack - even if spread across two channels.

Wow, I guess we Europeans were lucky then.
Conan The Barbarian has a DTS 5.1 soundtrack and Destroyer a Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack.

Can't wait for the Blu-ray though!

BouCoupDinkyDau · 05-23-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dolemiteslap

and in some ways surpasses its source material by creating a sometimes vulnerable and relatable lead character instead of the indestructible homoerotic death machine that he was in the novels.

Eh? The dude banged or romanced chicks in like every single story REH wrote about him. "Indestructible death machine" I can agree with, but not the homoerotic part.

Oh, and REH never wrote a Conan novel. They all range from short stories to novella.

Agent Bond · 05-23-2011, 04:41 PM

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Plus the score is subpar compared to Basil Poledouris' masterpiece for Barbarian.

Objection! Another reason why I liked The Destroyer was because the main theme was more epic than The Barbarian's.

thelwig14 · 05-23-2011, 06:01 PM

Streamed Destroyer last night on Netflix...stunning how big of a dropoff there is between it and Barbarian.

KarmaNL · 05-26-2011, 09:27 AM

still no 100% confirmed information on what this extended cut is suppposed to be ?

International cut?
International cut with new footage?
John Milius approved new cut?

05-21-2011, 05:31 PM	#166
dolemiteslap Junior Member Member since:Apr 2011	Will be $9.99 come Christmas I think it will be safe to assume that these films will both be $9.99 or lower by Christmas. If so, I'll definitely be getting the first Conan which is probably one of the best fantasy films ever made and in some ways surpasses its source material by creating a sometimes vulnerable and relatable lead character instead of the indestructible homoerotic death machine that he was in the novels. I also hope the Bluray will have the far superior theatrical cut instead of the pacing killing directors cut. And yes, the sequel Destroyer is terrible.

05-22-2011, 10:58 AM	#171
FLTWS New Member Member since:May 2011 Location:Silverdale Pa	Thanks. I enjoy Ahnuld's stuff for the most part, however, caught the last third of "Destroyer" last nite after the ball game on AMC. Forgot how bad that one is. Located a copy of Sonya, ordered. Last edited by FLTWS; 05-22-2011 at 11:01 AM.

05-21-2011, 03:04 AM	#165
Morsoth Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Oh, totally forgot the "Kull the Conqueror" movie, another movie based on the Robert E. Howard fictional realm along with "Red Sonja". "Kull" is still in my DVD collection, but I wouldn't mind update it with a Blu-ray even if it's not a classic. Anyway, I pre-ordered "Conan the Barbarian" and "Conan the Destroyer". "Destroyer" was my favorite when I was a kid, I looked so much like the role playing games "Hero Quest" or "Dungeons & Dragons" !

05-21-2011, 10:11 PM	#167
kernel_thai Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:106	Im kinda surprised they arent packaging them.

05-21-2011, 10:26 PM	#168
#Darren Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:1471 Blu-ray reviews: 62	So this release of CTB will be a THIRD cut. Not the US or the European but rather an extended version of the European.

05-22-2011, 04:13 PM	#172
Banger Senior Member Member since:Jun 2010 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:410	Yeah, I bought Barbarian and Destroyer as a packaged dvd. I still love the first one, but Destroyer is just bad. Really bad. They tried to bring the funny too much throughout the film. Plus the score is subpar compared to Basil Poledouris' masterpiece for Barbarian. I can't believe he also did Destroyer.

05-22-2011, 08:39 PM	#173
kernel_thai Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:106	CtB was a labor of love while CtD was about making money.

05-23-2011, 06:01 PM	#179
thelwig14 Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2011 Location:Texas Trading Score:94	Streamed Destroyer last night on Netflix...stunning how big of a dropoff there is between it and Barbarian.

05-26-2011, 09:27 AM	#180
KarmaNL Power Member Member since:May 2010 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:78 Blu-ray collection:96 Trading Score:2	still no 100% confirmed information on what this extended cut is suppposed to be ? International cut? International cut with new footage? John Milius approved new cut?

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