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Old 06-20-2011, 03:06 AM   #161
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I really Hope that the release for this set is JUST the "Trilogy". Like others have said a thousand times, KOTCS just came out a couple years ago, so there is No need for it in this upcoming release. So I highly Doubt we'll get the 4th in the new set. In fact, I'll Bet we won't.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:07 AM   #162
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I really Hope that the release for this set is JUST the "Trilogy". Like others have said a thousand times, KOTCS just came out a couple years ago, so there is No need for it in this upcoming release. So I highly Doubt we'll get the 4th in the new set. In fact, I'll Bet we won't.
We'll probably get four individual releases with KOTC of course being a re-release. Then the box set will probably contain all four films so they can charge more for it.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:33 AM   #163
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Finally. I've been waiting for the blurays of the first three. That's why I held off buying the fourth.

I don't know why people keep trashing the fourth one. I guess I'm the only one that loved it.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:34 AM   #164
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Here is a video comparison of a change that Spielberg made for the DVD release.


I personally didn't feel that KOTCS was just horrible. I was so glad to see Harrison Ford in the suit that I just became a kid again.

ROTLA 10/10
TOD 9/10
TLC 8/10
KOTCS 9/10
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:32 AM   #165
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:33 AM   #166
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Here is a video comparison of a change that Spielberg made for the DVD release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_sFW8grQtU

I personally didn't feel that KOTCS was just horrible. I was so glad to see Harrison Ford in the suit that I just became a kid again.

ROTLA 10/10
TOD 9/10
TLC 8/10
KOTCS 9/10
I was just happy Spielberg decided not to go with the original fight with the swordsman. I found out several years ago that Harrison Ford was just getting over a cold when they filmed that scene over and he decided on a whim to just shoot the swordsman. Spielberg liked it so much that he used it for the final cut of the film.
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:39 AM   #167
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Raiders: 10

Temple of Doom: 8

Last Crusade: 9

Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: 5
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:59 AM   #168
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Raiders : 10
Temple of Doom : 7.5
Last Crusade: 4
Crystal Skull: 3
Happy to see Temple getting love... I always referred it over the comic stylings of Last Crusade.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:13 AM   #169
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I was just happy Spielberg decided not to go with the original fight with the swordsman. I found out several years ago that Harrison Ford was just getting over a cold when they filmed that scene over and he decided on a whim to just shoot the swordsman. Spielberg liked it so much that he used it for the final cut of the film.
i thought it was becuase he was suffering from something and they had to keep him near a toilet, so they had to keep it quick.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:30 AM   #170
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I believe Ford and other cast and crew had dysentery.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:53 AM   #171
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i thought it was becuase he was suffering from something and they had to keep him near a toilet, so they had to keep it quick.
It was diarrhea if I can remember correctly, and it affected many cast & crew.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:03 AM   #172
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For me KotCS hit a few bad notes but not as much as ToD. KotCS fits right in with the UFO phenomenon that occurred in the 50's (and to this day) and The Cold War.

RotLA - 10

ToD - 7 (intro is awesome, don't like how 1935 Indy contradicts 1936 Indy though)

TLC - 8.5

KotCS - 7.5 (technically Indy died when he plummeted 500 feet from a plane on a raft so I can accept the fridge scene)
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:21 AM   #173
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I do not see a reason why they wouldn't include the fourth film. I own the fourth on Blu-ray because I enjoy it; though, I think it is not nearly as good as it could have been. I don't mind re-buying it in a larger set at all.

And since everybody seems to be rating the films:
Raiders: 9/10
Temple: 7/10
Crusade: 9/10
Kingdom: 7/10

I find Last Crusade to be the most entertaining and the film I can watch the most, but objectively I think it is as good as the first.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:42 AM   #174
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Am I the only person who finds Last Crusade sort of bad? The slap stick really threw me off and honestly, along with Return of the Jedi, Crusade seems like a case of 'oh look how successful we've gotten and all this money we have to make a movie, lets just phone it in instead of actually struggling to make a good movie on a shoe-string'.

Raiders is of course a seminal classic all on its own. If it never got any sequels it would have always been iconic.

I personally LOVE Temple of Doom, other then Raiders, its the most 'pulp adventure' Indiana Jones has ever gotten.

Crusade is literally just a rehash of Raiders with Slapstick.

I have a lot of problems with Kingdom, but I did like some of the ideas it presented. I had no problems with bringing Indy into the 1950s atomic age and introducing a few loose sci-fi elements (which is totally in character for 1950s pulp adventure serials). I just wish it was a little bit more like Temple of Doom when it got to South America.


But of course Fate of Atlantis is the best Indy-anything.

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Old 06-20-2011, 08:31 AM   #175
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Am I the only person who finds Last Crusade sort of bad? The slap stick really threw me off and honestly, along with Return of the Jedi, Crusade seems like a case of 'oh look how successful we've gotten and all this money we have to make a movie, lets just phone it in instead of actually struggling to make a good movie on a shoe-string'.

Raiders is of course a seminal classic all on its own. If it never got any sequels it would have always been iconic.

I personally LOVE Temple of Doom, other then Raiders, its the most 'pulp adventure' Indiana Jones has ever gotten.

Crusade is literally just a rehash of Raiders with Slapstick.

I have a lot of problems with Kingdom, but I did like some of the ideas it presented. I had no problems with bringing Indy into the 1950s atomic age and introducing a few loose sci-fi elements (which is totally in character for 1950s pulp adventure serials). I just wish it was a little bit more like Temple of Doom when it got to South America.


But of course Fate of Atlantis is the best Indy-anything.
I don't really find Crusade bad, but yeah, it rehashes Raiders a bit too often. Temple of Doom at least did something entirely different. With Crystal Skull, the elements are there, but I think the script could have used another revision. It's a bit too convoluted. Still not the train wreck so many people make it out to be.

But Raiders of the Lost Ark is still the best of the series (I haven't played the Fate of Atlantis game).
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:08 AM   #176
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It's been at least 2 years since I watched Raiders. I believe I watched it around the time I rented KOTCS on DVD (having seen 4 theatrically)

So closer to 3 years I guess that is. Which, as I've likely mentioned before, is easily the biggest gap in watching any Indy film I've ever experienced.

I would say before starving myself since early 09, I would have watched Raiders once every school holidays growing up on VHS (so at least 4 times a year since 1989/90), then out of school on DVD maybe more times but less consistent - plus any TV airing I would catch.

It would have to be up on 100 times. So this 3 year gap has been painful but I thought it would rekindle my childhood excitement since I knew I would get into blu, I decided to go cold on Raiders viewing in SD/TV once I saw KOTCS at home.

Basically, I want the drought to end. BUTTT I just can't go back to TV or DVD standard just to get my fix

I want the big home experience only a well treated blu can offer Can't wait for this!!

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Old 06-20-2011, 09:17 AM   #177
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I'm in a similar boat actually. I've got a bunch of old stand-by movies I'm refusing to watch in anything other then HD, that have yet to be released. All four Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, the original Star Wars (the ORIGINAL original Star Wars. This could take a while), Who Framed Roger Rabbit, etc... etc...

Glad Raiders and Temple are finally gonna be on Blu.
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Considering KOTC made almost as much $ as Iron Man, I'd say a lot more people enjoyed it than you may think. Why do people think it's bad? because of the aliens...?
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I don't really find Crusade bad, but yeah, it rehashes Raiders a bit too often. Temple of Doom at least did something entirely different. With Crystal Skull, the elements are there, but I think the script could have used another revision. It's a bit too convoluted. Still not the train wreck so many people make it out to be.

But Raiders of the Lost Ark is still the best of the series (I haven't played the Fate of Atlantis game).
Crystal Skull might have been great if Spielberg hadn't phoned it in as well. You'd think by now, as many films as he's made, he'd nix lame ideas like Tarzan Shia... but for some reason, that's the level Spielberg too often rises to, and the reason he's just not a great filmmaker. The CGI was terrible. The best sequence in the film - the opening the warehouse - was great until the action didn't even cut together. It was painfully obvious when Ford wasn't doing the stunts. And trying to re-create the 80's cinematography failed miserably. Otherwise, I loved it.
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Considering KOTC made almost as much $ as Iron Man, I'd say a lot more people enjoyed it than you may think. Why do people think it's bad? because of the aliens...?
Popularity != A Good Movie. This is the golden rule. Indiana Jones has a LOT of good faith built into the brand. It sold like crazy on the back on Indiana Jones, not because it was a good movie.

I personally didn't have a problem with its science fiction elements, and actually had a lot of respect for the fact that they tried something new and different. Unfortunately they bobbled some pretty basic things in pacing and characterization. Also a lot of overly sentimental garbage with Indy's kid.

Oh and CGI Gophers. There is just no excuse.

EDIT: Everything retablo said.

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