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Old 04-04-2024, 08:10 PM   #161
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I definitely think you’ll like V more now as an adult.

I don’t know how you’d go from II to Balboa, though. You’d need some explanation as to why Rocky is back where he started and running a restaurant after winning the title. I mean I guess considering the time passage, you could just assume Adrian’s death brought him back to live a bit lower profile, but…I’d say V is definitely more important to Balboa than III or IV. It’s not really until you get into the Creed films that you need IV. They really haven’t found a way to tie any real relevance (for future films) into III, I don’t think…
Well, he's older and retired. You go from seeing him win the title to what Rocky is doing in his twilight years. I think it'd be a pretty hard gut punch going from him winning the title to nearly 30 years later, Adrian's passing and Rocky just trying to find a reason to keep going.

I know it would blasphemous but part of me would like to see what Travis Bickle would be doing right now. His whole world would have changed.
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Love them all too. I avoided 5 forever until I got the undisputed collection and I kept wondering while watching, what exactly everyone hated about it. That being said, as much as I do like them all, I think my favorite is actually Rocky II. It's a bloody fantastic sequel keeping in touch with the first one with the characters first and the fight stuff second unlike III and IV and which would return with V and Balboa. Maybe it's nostalgia for me as it's actually the first one I saw when TNT would endlessly run those marathons during the weekend but it's a damn good follow up.
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So does anyone know if this is a complete new boxset of as I’m suspecting just the same 1-4 discs repacked with V and Balboa?

I don’t know how they would have the bottle to completely repackage 1-4 and fix the errors with out explanation to those who shelled out for the previous boxset.

I’d also like the atmos soundtrack on 4 that we got on Apple TV too. Strange they didn’t include that
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Old 04-04-2024, 09:24 PM   #164
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Yeah, I will never get how people can attack V for having a dated soundtrack while totally giving IV a pass for the same darn thing. I mean don’t get me wrong, I like the soundtracks / scores to BOTH of those films and think they both work just fine for what they are. But you can’t say one is dated and the other isn’t. They’re both products of their time.
One of them is a lot more popular and enduring than the other, there's no debate about that. And I would argue the music for V was always specific to its time, and has never had the same enduring appeal.

I mean, the soundtrack for IV has been reissued a number of times, was remastered, and is still in-print to this day. It's never been out of print, ever.

The soundtrack for V never attained that level of success. You could find the CD in $1 cut-out bins within a year or two of its release. Hell, half of the tracks aren't even in the movie!

Its music didn't transcend its era at all, whereas the soundtrack for IV has proven to have far more enduring appeal, "dated" or not. Vince DiCola's IV score is also hugely popular, and he's performed it live with different orchestras over the years as well -- recently too.

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So does anyone know if this is a complete new boxset of as I’m suspecting just the same 1-4 discs repacked with V and Balboa?

I don’t know how they would have the bottle to completely repackage 1-4 and fix the errors with out explanation to those who shelled out for the previous boxset.

I’d also like the atmos soundtrack on 4 that we got on Apple TV too. Strange they didn’t include that
Nobody knows yet at this point.
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Old 04-04-2024, 10:39 PM   #166
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Its music didn't transcend its era at all, whereas the soundtrack for IV has proven to have far more enduring appeal, "dated" or not.
Oh I definitely agree and am not disputing that at all. But with the caveat that we aren’t taking about soundtrack ”albums”, only the music in the films proper, all I’m saying about it is that it’s inexplicable. One got (and stayed) popular, and the other didn’t…but the fact is that they are both as quintessentially representative of their own respective time periods as the other. We’ve just decided that that’s a good thing for one type of music and not another.
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Old 04-04-2024, 11:01 PM   #167
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Canadian distributor posted this artwork, indicating a new Knockout Steelbook Collection

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Canadian distributor posted this artwork, indicating a new Knockout Steelbook Collection

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Interesting that cover art ignores the new cut of Balboa.

I would assume it is all movies crammed into one steelbook or the current steelbooks in one big case like we've seen for other collections, like Batman and the Monsterverse movies. BUT imagine if they were to do like the Superman set and give them all steelbooks featuring the original theatrical posters...
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Old 04-05-2024, 12:38 AM   #169
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Interesting that cover art ignores the new cut of Balboa.
Also doesn't mention the OG cut of Rocky IV.
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Also doesn't mention the OG cut of Rocky IV.
Yeah that is VERY odd. I would definitely be skipping if that was not included.
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Old 04-05-2024, 12:46 AM   #171
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Yeah that is VERY odd. I would definitely be skipping if that was not included.
They were on the same disc; I’m sure it will be.
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FWIW, it took three emails, but I finally heard back from Warner on getting a replacement for the messed up discs. They were almost purposefully vague when responding, except to say that they would send me “replacement product”…I have no idea if they’ll send me the fixed original film with the proper mono track, fixed copies of all of them, or if they are totally not understanding me at all and just sending me copies of the original discs again, but I just got a FedEx notice that Warner has sent me a package. Delivery is scheduled for Wednesday, so I’ll report back here with whatever I get from them.
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Do these studios even have a clue???
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Old 04-05-2024, 03:03 PM   #175
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Rocky 4's soundtrack/score is pretty much my favorite of all time (basically always been a tie between that and The Terminator). To the point where I've actually made compilations both of remixes/covers of the training montage, and one that's all original music that sounds like it, or was clearly inspired by it (It also has songs that sound like 80's aerobics classes. I made them for workout motivation lol).
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FWIW, it took three emails, but I finally heard back from Warner on getting a replacement for the messed up discs. They were almost purposefully vague when responding, except to say that they would send me “replacement product”…I have no idea if they’ll send me the fixed original film with the proper mono track, fixed copies of all of them, or if they are totally not understanding me at all and just sending me copies of the original discs again, but I just got a FedEx notice that Warner has sent me a package. Delivery is scheduled for Wednesday, so I’ll report back here with whatever I get from them.
If you dig way back in the thread, there was at least one person like a month or two after 1-4 originally came out that seemed to think they understood and were shipping replacements, just for those to arrive and be the exact same disc. Keep us posted, I’m optimistic with the new set coming they really will fix them, but would not be shocked to see you get the same disc either sadly.
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I really hope we get the fixed audio. I’ll be buying regardless as I never picked up the first release for that reason.
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I have lost track at this point... is it just Rocky and Rocky 2 that need replacements?
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I have lost track at this point... is it just Rocky and Rocky 2 that need replacements?
All four do.

Rocky - mono is a downmix
II - wrong pitch on all tracks
III - wrong pitch on all foreign tracks
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