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Old 05-17-2018, 07:26 PM   #1781
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Ok. Enjoy!
Thanks! FYI the previous screenshots are missing color profiles. No doubt you can figure out which one is correct.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:52 PM   #1782
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@Bates_Motel, that's how photochemical timing used to look back in the day, more yellow, green and orange for daylight. This also carried over to motion picture film. Which is why the 3D version was based on the timing of the film prints and properly set to warm. Of course they made it a bit too warm. But it was never supposed to be a pale cool colour like the DVD/2D BDs.
No, it's not. Please learn about film and developing, and maybe look at the history of photography to see that all photos in the photochemical realm were not tinted green. The colors in that behind the scenes set are not balanced, and 100% not correct or indicative of how it should look. It's really just common sense at this point that the jeep isn't (or shouldn't) look green, so theres zero debate on whether or not the colors on that still are correct. Hint: they are not.

In addition, along with your extensive knowledge of photochemical film processes, you'd also know that different film stocks inherently skew toward different looks and contrast (some redder, some greener, etc). Yet another reason why comparing some behind the scenes photo shot by an intern is the last thing you can compare to the actual look of a film that's professionally shot (on even different stock, no less) then color timed.

I also never said it shouldn't be either warmer or cooler, but you can't determine that from a behind the scenes still that's not even close to being accurate.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:53 PM   #1783
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Thanks! FYI the previous screenshots are missing color profiles. No doubt you can figure out which one is correct.
Colors looks amazing with your adjustments, red is no longer orange but red as it should . Could you also adjust screenshot below in the same way?

https://i.imgur.com/pT8UHGk.jpg

S_har- thanks for the CGI Trex screenshots. CGI moments looks soft, but that was to be expected and I really happy with increase in details overall (non CGI screenshots, because that's 99% of movie running time). With better colors, and no EE Jurassic Park UHD disc should blow away BD transfer .
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:54 PM   #1784
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FYI the previous screenshots are missing color profiles. No doubt you can figure out which one is correct.

Thanks. I did indeed export them without a color profile. It should be noted that even if I had the screencaps would still not display the colors that are present on disc though.
As stated in an earlier post the method I've used for capturing from UHD disc involves a workflow that does not carry over the correct colors and because of that they are intended solely for giving an impression of resolution, use of DNR etc, not for judging colors or dynamic range.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:03 PM   #1785
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S_har- thanks for the CGI Trex screenshots. CGI moments looks soft, but that was to be expected and I really happy with increase in details overall (non CGI screenshots, because that's 99% of movie running time). With better colors, and no EE Jurassic Park UHD disc should blow away BD transfer .

Yeah the CGI shots while some of them a bit soft looking are still good looking and blends very well with the non-CGI shots. I think mostly the daytime CGI shots are the ones that 'sticks out' (the first brachiosaurus encounter and the herd of running gallimimus), but I don't think anyone of us wasn't expecting that. The use of CGI during the nighttime and interior shots however are still holding up and blends extremely well with the practical effects shots in my opinion.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:43 PM   #1786
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My Zoom steelbook of the first film shipped today! So stoked for this!
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:15 PM   #1787
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No, it's not. Please learn about film and developing, and maybe look at the history of photography to see that all photos in the photochemical realm were not tinted green. The colors in that behind the scenes set are not balanced, and 100% not correct or indicative of how it should look. It's really just common sense at this point that the jeep isn't (or shouldn't) look green, so theres zero debate on whether or not the colors on that still are correct. Hint: they are not.
Exactly.

Here are two official stills available on the internet, which one is "correct"?


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Old 05-17-2018, 09:31 PM   #1788
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Kobayashi Maru

What it's supposed to look like and what some people want/are used to is just going to clash. I think I'll wait and see what it actually looks like on my system. I'm pretty sure I will be happy.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:33 PM   #1789
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Top one looks way better to me!

I'm personally only interested in what a good trained eye has to say about this release. That's what I'm licking my chops waiting for Screens are good and all but meaningless.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:55 PM   #1790
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Is your TV colour temperature set to "cool"? Because some of these screencaps looks as blue/magenta as the DVD and 2011 Blu-ray did. Jurassic Park should not look this blue. It was a warm tinted film (not as warm as the 3D though).

There is also something wrong with the 4K. The color grading changes drastically from warm/yellow, to cool/pink the next. The colours have no consistency. How can this happen?
The UHD grade is often very cool, similar to the 2011 BD, which I noted in my initial impressions. To me it looked better when I changed my TV from Warm2 to Warm3. And I noticed the inconsistency as well, particularly the beginning has some oddly warm shots.

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If those are actual screen captures, then I'm not impressed. It has nothing on The Mummy 4K.
Most definitely not, but then again not a whole lot does.

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Old 05-17-2018, 10:21 PM   #1791
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Sounds as if the overall warm push isn't there but is there still blue lighting in the night scenes (particularly the T-rex escape scene)?
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My Zoom steelbook of the first film shipped today! So stoked for this!
Mine too!! Can't wait
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:01 AM   #1793
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Don't wanna quote the pictures, but the 4k version looks very flat compared to the Blu Ray. Texture isn't as good and the dimensionality is not even close.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:37 AM   #1794
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My Zoom steelbook of the first film shipped today! So stoked for this!
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Mine too!! Can't wait
Congrats! You guys are lucky. Zoom is missing out on a lot of sales not delivering to the US of A.
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So, overall, is this looking like a bust?
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:55 AM   #1796
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So, overall, is this looking like a bust?
Not yet. These pics have no HDR and show an SDR conversion. We need to wait.
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Universal suck.

Easily the worst studio on this format so far.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:22 AM   #1798
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Ordered all 4 steelbooks from Zoom, payment taken a few days ago but no dispatch update.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:49 AM   #1799
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Universal suck.

Easily the worst studio on this format so far.
Well it's pretty much following Blu-Ray. Universal was always the most notorious studio for being cheap and lazy with catalog titles. Other studios knew their HD scans during the DVD era were outdated and usually did new ones. Universal just liked to slap some DNR and EE on their old HD scans and put them on Blu-Ray.

I was kind of hoping they would knock 4K out of the park though-- like it was all some elaborate long-term plan to have mediocre Blu-Ray transfers so when they did 4K discs they would be phenomenal must-have upgrades by comparison. Maybe not though
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Easily the worst studio on this format so far.
As far as audio goes, Disney is catching up to Universal.
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