Fantasia / Fantasia 2000 (1940-1999) (Special Edition)

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Bachelor party tonight. Rehearsal tomorrow. Wedding saturday.

I had antelope at the Bachelor party tonight. I never shy away from tasting new foods, because we only spin around the sun a few times and I try to make the most of it. Bachelor party was at a German brewhaus north of San Antonio, and they had Antelope on the menu.

Incredibly delicious. Amazing. Better than Texas Venison.

Did you go into a "circle of life" rant while you were eating the antelope?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Bachelor party tonight. Rehearsal tomorrow. Wedding saturday.

Basically what they did in That's My Boy!

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

Did you go into a "circle of life" rant while you were eating the antelope?

No, but I was tempted to shout "I gotta have a wildebeast!" after trying the antelope.

[Deciazulado]

You ate Bambi's cousin?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

You ate Bambi's cousin?

I live in Central Texas. A Bambi damn near totalled my car. Consequently, I eat Bambi any chance I get, and his relatives are fair game - literally.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I live in Central Texas. A Bambi damn near totalled my car. Consequently, I eat Bambi any chance I get, and his relatives are fair game - literally.

So your the one who killed his mother???

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I live in Central Texas. A Bambi damn near totalled my car. Consequently, I eat Bambi any chance I get, and his relatives are fair game - literally.

As you should, deer meat is absolutely delicious .

Oh, and not to derail this thread, but am I the only one for whom the death of Bambi's mother did absolutely nothing? I mean, I did think it was sad, and all, but I never ever cried during the movie. I can't be the only one, right?
Now, Dumbo, that's something else entirely.

[ilovenola2]

Originally Posted by yumny

Though I love the film I can also see why critics at the time ripped it a new one for being too pretentious. To them Fantasia probably seemed like it had shock value for the sake of shock value, was challenging christian values to seem modern, and was trying to make classical music popular again to the masses by selling it under a Disney Animation brand.

Jeesh I'm starting to sound like a 1940s critic myself..

Actually, you're sounding like a critic of a far later era--this one.
Take it from me-- a frustrated classical music radio dj who watches and hears his world being phased out of media every day.

At the time of "Fantasia"'s release, classical music was very popular among the "masses" and heard regularly on commercial radio--- "Fantasia" conductor Stowkowski's Philadelphia Orchestra for instance. musical variety programs starring popular opera stars of the era...and NBC even created an elite orchestra (the NBC Symphony) for the world's most famous conductor of the era, Arturo Toscanini. Sure, right-wing religious nuts squalled, like today, about 'christian' values and their lack in films-- but Beethoven didn't suffer.
Ironically, the worst criticism I've ever heard of the film "Fantasia" was recently-- at the time of the release of this blu-ray set. It was by a Boston music critic speaking on NPR. His disdain was so snobbish you could "see" the nose in the air over the radio! (LOL-- how counter-productive of him!) Were it not for the clout and prestige of Disney, the underrated "Fantasia 2000" would never have been made. And, indeed, a "Fantasia" for today by anyone else (or even Disney) would never get green-lighted for production, let alone be released to today's fan-boy audiences...who wouldn't come at all.
Please excuse the length of this post. I just wanted to say this: Support your local arts organizations...or they WILL disappear!!

[yumny]

Originally Posted by ilovenola2

Actually, you're sounding like a critic of a far later era--this one.
Take it from me-- a frustrated classical music radio dj who watches and hears his world being phased out of media every day.

At the time of "Fantasia"'s release, classical music was very popular among the "masses" and heard regularly on commercial radio--- "Fantasia" conductor Stowkowski's Philadelphia Orchestra for instance. musical variety programs starring popular opera stars of the era...and NBC even created an elite orchestra (the NBC Symphony) for the world's most famous conductor of the era, Arturo Toscanini. Sure, right-wing religious nuts squalled, like today, about 'christian' values and their lack in films-- but Beethoven didn't suffer.
Ironically, the worst criticism I've ever heard of the film "Fantasia" was recently-- at the time of the release of this blu-ray set. It was by a Boston music critic speaking on NPR. His disdain was so snobbish you could "see" the nose in the air over the radio! (LOL-- how counter-productive of him!) Were it not for the clout and prestige of Disney, the underrated "Fantasia 2000" would never have been made. And, indeed, a "Fantasia" for today by anyone else (or even Disney) would never get green-lighted for production, let alone be released to today's fan-boy audiences...who wouldn't come at all.
Please excuse the length of this post. I just wanted to say this: Support your local arts organizations...or they WILL disappear!!

Interesting to know, I thought everyone in the 1940s was just obsessed with the music of that time (you know, eh.. well I can't think of any examples right now, big bands and jazz or something?), and that classical music was phasing out.

Also I don't think Fantasia 2000 is underrated, I would even dare call it overrated.

[Ernest Rister]

Taken on it's own terms, and not as a sequel to Fantasia, F2k is a fine, beautiful film. It only comes up short, in my opinion, taken in the context of the first film, because the 1940 Fantasia makes the 2000 version seem as dangerous, revolutionary, and earth-splitting as elevator music. Fantasia was about something, part of a movement in animated expression. Fantasia 2000 was about continuing the legacy so even more films would be made, and so consequently, it was designed to be as accessible as possible. Roy really wanted to keep going with more Fantasia features, but he needed F2k to prove the franchise could financially justify the production of more shorts.

It's too bad Roy didn't live to work more with John Lasseter (after Roy saved the company -- again). Given Lasseter's support for short subjects, I can see them putting the Fantasia experiment back on the front burner, as it were.

[DetroitSquirreL]

I just have to post that I FINALLY found this...IN STORE even, brand new!!!! With slip cover also!!!

[yumny]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

I just have to post that I FINALLY found this...IN STORE even, brand new!!!! With slip cover also!!!

Well la-ti-dah! Congratulations!

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

I just have to post that I FINALLY found this...IN STORE even, brand new!!!! With slip cover also!!!

Congrats, you found my favorite slip!

[DetroitSquirreL]

Best thing is that they had it in those security clear 'clam shells' so it hasn't been touched since release date they guy said....not a ding in that slip case either....oh I'm sooooo excited...I just had to share

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

Best thing is that they had it in those security clear 'clam shells' so it hasn't been touched since release date they guy said....not a ding in that slip case either....oh I'm sooooo excited...I just had to share

You lucky little duck

[DetroitSquirreL]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

You lucky little duck

that would be 'you lucky little squirrel'

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

that would be 'you lucky little squirrel'

Ah nuts, where did I screw up?

[Josh5890]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

I just have to post that I FINALLY found this...IN STORE even, brand new!!!! With slip cover also!!!

Where did you find it and how much? My guess is $35

[DetroitSquirreL]

Originally Posted by Josh5890

Where did you find it and how much? My guess is $35

a indie shop in Detroit...yeah $35

[mzupeman]

I bit. I saw a new copy at my local FYE ... although it was $45.99. But, still, this thing is OOP and selling for more by third parties. AND it had a mint slip.