Jurassic World (2015)

[jarrod_inf]

I would like the next entry to focus on some new and actual Dino's. I'm fine with the new creation angle but there are so many other factual beasts that need some screen time. To me this was a worthy sequel and a beautiful disc.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by WhiteTim

I believe the target tin is the only one with the bonus disc be honest it's not really worth it

Target has the exclusive with the following versions:
2D Tin
3D Amaray
2D Amaray


It may have the Bonus Disk with the 3D tin, but I don't think anyone bought it from Target yet...

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by WhiteTim

I believe the target tin is the only one with the bonus disc be honest it's not really worth it

It has around 40 minutes of bonus features on it. It's totally worth it!

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by jarrod_inf

I would like the next entry to focus on some new and actual Dino's. I'm fine with the new creation angle but there are so many other factual beasts that need some screen time. To me this was a worthy sequel and a beautiful disc.

I don't envy whoever has to make the next film. Colin did as any filmmaker should do: Make a great stand alone film without focusing on sequel bait. The problem is that theres just not much for them to do in the next film. Where do they go from there?

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

I don't envy whoever has to make the next film. Colin did as any filmmaker should do: Make a great stand alone film without focusing on sequel bait. The problem is that theres just not much for them to do in the next film. Where do they go from there?

Oh, he set up the sequels - militarization of dinosaurs. It was very intentional to expand into a new trilogy, he has spoken about it in interviews. Along with most of his directing choices, it stood out like a sore, bloody thumb.

[scottish_punk]

Originally Posted by EvilResident

I still think it's nuts that we have had 3 sequels without another real appearance of the dilophosaur. I remember it being SO POPULAR when the first movie came out, and to this day, they use the fictionalization JP traits (frill and spitting) in video games and toys. What gives with THAT?

Being that it was (and still is) my favorite dinosaur when I was younger, trust me, I feel your pain. It makes no sense that they keep shafting the Dilo; it is the ONLY dinosaur from the first film that they haven't used in any of the other sequels, and that burns me deeply. Granted, I did like JW a great deal, but what baffles me about the film is how it would go out of it's way to tiptoe around an actual, live appearance of a Dilo; in addition to the hologram, you also had Jimmy Fallon mention Dilophosaurus venom in the gyrosphere video. So it is obviously a presence in the park, but for some reason, Trevorrow and the filmmakers never throw the fans a bone in that regard. They obviously approached this story with enough nostalgia for the first film that you think it'd be a no-brainer for them to include a dinosaur never once used outside of said first film into JW.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

Oh, he set up the sequels - militarization of dinosaurs. It was very intentional to expand into a new trilogy, he has spoken about it in interviews. Along with most of his directing choices, it stood out like a sore, bloody thumb.

Yeah, but that's a terrible idea. And it's resolved in this film. It's a terrible idea.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by scottish_punk

Being that it was (and still is) my favorite dinosaur when I was younger, trust me, I feel your pain. It makes no sense that they keep shafting the Dilo; it is the ONLY dinosaur from the first film that they haven't used in any of the other sequels, and that burns me deeply. Granted, I did like JW a great deal, but what baffles me about the film is how it would go out of it's way to tiptoe around an actual, live appearance of a Dilo; in addition to the hologram, you also had Jimmy Fallon mention Dilophosaurus venom in the gyrosphere video. So it is obviously a presence in the park, but for some reason, Trevorrow and the filmmakers never throw the fans a bone in that regard. They obviously approached this story with enough nostalgia for the first film that you think it'd be a no-brainer for them to include a dinosaur never once used outside of said first film into JW.

Why do that when they can come up with A KEWL NEW DINOSAWR?

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Yeah, but that's a terrible idea. And it's resolved in this film. It's a terrible idea.

Remember what Dr. Wu said.

[Show spoiler]"If I don't innovate, someone else will"

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Yeah, but that's a terrible idea. And it's resolved in this film. It's a terrible idea.

[Show spoiler]Wu got away though...
He plans on selling out to the highest bidder now.

So, the set-up is still there.

[Adam_WM]

I enjoyed Jurassic World, but for me, it was basically a shoddily written movie whose script and marketing bet heavy (and won big) on nostalgia for the original Jurassic Park. A sequel to this movie will have to be something fresh and I can't imagine what they can do that will be worth it. Strip away the Jurassic Park nostalgia and Jurassic World is just another lousy Jurassic Park sequel, IMO.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Adam_WM

I enjoyed Jurassic World, but for me, it was basically a shoddily written movie whose script and marketing bet heavy (and won big) on nostalgia for the original Jurassic Park. A sequel to this movie will have to be something fresh and I can't imagine what they can do that will be worth it. Strip away the Jurassic Park nostalgia and Jurassic World is just another lousy Jurassic Park sequel, IMO.

Yes. It's fine as throwaway popcorn fodder, great for turning the ol' noggin off and enjoying a couple hours of CG eye candy and LOUD NOISES but if I never saw it again I wouldn't be sorry.

[StingingVelvet]

I wonder if the Dilophosaurus doesn't look great using CGI because of the flapping peacock thing. Maybe that's why they have veered away from it in favor of simpler geometry for the dinos.

[BobbyMcGee]

Saw this for the first time on Friday (3-D Blu-ray) and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. I guess my nostalgia for J.P. was stronger than I thought.

[jarrod_inf]

I'm tired of the T-Rex and Raptors now, they were great but enough is enough.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by EvilResident

I still think it's nuts that we have had 3 sequels without another real appearance of the dilophosaur. I remember it being SO POPULAR when the first movie came out, and to this day, they use the fictionalization JP traits (frill and spitting) in video games and toys. What gives with THAT?

Originally Posted by scottish_punk

Being that it was (and still is) my favorite dinosaur when I was younger, trust me, I feel your pain. It makes no sense that they keep shafting the Dilo; it is the ONLY dinosaur from the first film that they haven't used in any of the other sequels, and that burns me deeply. Granted, I did like JW a great deal, but what baffles me about the film is how it would go out of it's way to tiptoe around an actual, live appearance of a Dilo; in addition to the hologram, you also had Jimmy Fallon mention Dilophosaurus venom in the gyrosphere video. So it is obviously a presence in the park, but for some reason, Trevorrow and the filmmakers never throw the fans a bone in that regard. They obviously approached this story with enough nostalgia for the first film that you think it'd be a no-brainer for them to include a dinosaur never once used outside of said first film into JW.

It's interesting about the Dilophosaurus, it got a Lego set (it was packaged with the Gyrosphere and the brothers), there was talk about how there'd be wild dinosaurs living behind the wall, etc. A lot of things seemed to point to it, but in the end the Indominus attacks the Gyrosphere and there's no sign of any wild dinosaurs. It seems like something they planned but was then scrapped for whatever reason, maybe because they ran out of time/money or they figured it would've been dumb for InGen to leave wild carnivores roaming the island. Or perhaps it's going to be explored in a sequel...

Whatever's the reason, I too am disappointed we haven't seen the Dilo again in three sequels. It's one of the most iconic animals from the first film and a huge fan favorite, I don't get it. Some have speculated that the filmmakers want to steer clear of it because of how scientifically inaccurate it is, but I can't imagine that's the reason, most of JP's dinosaurs are completely different from the real animals they're based on and have always been. Hell, with this movie they intentionally contradicted various discoveries that have been made since the '90s because they felt continuity was more important than scientific accuracy.

Originally Posted by jarrod_inf

I'm tired of the T-Rex and Raptors now, they were great but enough is enough.

No way! It won't be Jurassic Park without the raptors and especially the T. rex being present in some capacity. I can understand (and agree with) not wanting them to hog up all the dinosaur screen time, but then that's only really been an issue with the raptors lately; featured very prominently in both JPIII and JW. The T. rex on the other hand showed up for a minute to get curb stomped by the Spinosaurus in JPIII and had a glorified sort-of-comeback cameo in JW.

[EvilResident]

The T-Rex situation in JPIII was my #1 issue with that film. I waited for the whole movie for two of them to come back for a rematch. It made me loathe JPIII for years until I watched it again more recently and was able to let go of that disappointment. Then JW gave me the comeback I needed. It probably made me love JW than I might have otherwise. Tyrannosaurus IS Jurassic Park. It's in the damn logo.

[Deathbymonkeys]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Yeah, but that's a terrible idea. And it's resolved in this film. It's a terrible idea.

It's an awesome idea and it was not resolved. Ingen took the data and WU to MAKE the Indominus again but raptor sized. They say so in the movie. And I for one would hope the next movie starts with them in actual combat. Would be amazing.

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

It's interesting about the Dilophosaurus, it got a Lego set (it was packaged with the Gyrosphere and the brothers), there was talk about how there'd be wild dinosaurs living behind the wall, etc. A lot of things seemed to point to it, but in the end the Indominus attacks the Gyrosphere and there's no sign of any wild dinosaurs. It seems like something they planned but was then scrapped for whatever reason, maybe because they ran out of time/money or they figured it would've been dumb for InGen to leave wild carnivores roaming the island. Or perhaps it's going to be explored in a sequel...

There are definitely "wild" dinosaurs in the film. Forgive me for not being enough of a dino geek to say what the breed was, but when they took off on the Gyrosphere out of the broken gate, they came across those turtle-like dinos hanging out before Indominus came over to eat them up. That entire sequence took place outside of the attraction itself.

That said, I did find it odd - it wasn't explained nor explored very well (why WOULD they have wild dinos, even non-aggressive ones?). But they were definitely there in the film.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by EvilResident

The T-Rex situation in JPIII was my #1 issue with that film. I waited for the whole movie for two of them to come back for a rematch. It made me loathe JPIII for years until I watched it again more recently and was able to let go of that disappointment. Then JW gave me the comeback I needed. It probably made me love JW than I might have otherwise. Tyrannosaurus IS Jurassic Park. It's in the damn logo.

It's far from my main issue with JPIII, but it does kinda bother me yeah. It's not even the fact that the T. rex loses so much as the utter failure to make the fight even halfway engaging. The two dinos see each other, start fighting and it's over in around 40 seconds. How could they waste something with so much potential like that? T. rex vs. I. rex vs. Blue the raptor vs. Mosasaurus is completely insane but at least it delivers.

I'm also not very fond of the Spinosaurus. With the Tyrannosaurs in the first two movies, while they do some over the top stuff (as they have to, they're playing the roles of movie monsters), I felt like the movies always remembered that they're animals, and they never did anything that seemed too out there for a large animal. The Spinosaurus on the other hand is a pure bloodthirsty monster, basically a slasher villain in dinosaur form. JPIII in general is really the point where the dinosaurs went from being at least somewhat convincing as animals to just being mindless killing machines.

You can say the same about the Indominus rex, sure, but at least they had an excuse for its behavior however out there it was.

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

There are definitely "wild" dinosaurs in the film. Forgive me for not being enough of a dino geek to say what the breed was, but when they took off on the Gyrosphere out of the broken gate, they came across those turtle-like dinos hanging out before Indominus came over to eat them up. That entire sequence took place outside of the attraction itself.

That said, I did find it odd - it wasn't explained nor explored very well (why WOULD they have wild dinos, even non-aggressive ones?). But they were definitely there in the film.

Yes, the Ankylosaurus herd. You're right in your observation, though I'm unsure if they really are intended to be wild animals. They were listed on the official site as being part of the park, so unless that means nothing (which is certainly not impossible) they could have been kept in the same enclosure as the other herbivores and simply wandered through the same broken part of the fence the brothers came in through. Or they were wild and lived there all along, the movie isn't really clear on that point.

As for why/how there'd be wild dinosaurs on the other side of the wall, the implication seems to be that they'd be surviving animals from the first park, or descendants of animals that were kept in the first park. We know there must have been some since the original T. rex is back, obviously she survived all those years and then they captured her again. I guess the wild dinosaurs would be a few individuals that managed to hide from whatever people got the job of rounding up all the free roaming dinosaurs for the new park.