Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread - Page 933 - Blu-ray Forum

Vilya · 10-31-2019, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yet, creatives in Hollywood (the people who make our films) are just as unhappy with certain developments as I. Read Mr Pitt, Brad Bird etc..

Being unhappy about aspects of reality is not the same thing as making wild inescapable doomsday predictions. I bet none of those people that you named, or referenced, dislike millenials, either; they are among their best paying customers.

flyry · 10-31-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vilya

The very idea of purchasing movies and TV shows on any format, physical or digital, is waning. People who prefer to buy their content are very much in the minority. We are both, digital and disc fans, in a market that is effectively a niche market.

Incredibly low priced subscription streaming and affordable video on demand are making purchases increasingly less relevant to a large number of people. When people can subscribe to 3, even 4, streaming services for less than the cost of a basic cable TV package, paying $15-$30 to purchase ONE movie on any format is extravagant.

Declining purchases are nothing to take pleasure in as these declines are affecting all purchase methods.

This. The subscription graveyard will be larger than the est one in 5+ years

The_Donster · 10-31-2019, 04:52 PM

Again, repost your original predictions when one of them comes true Steedeel

Steedeel · 10-31-2019, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flyry

This. The subscription graveyard will be larger than the est one in 5+ years

Not a chance.

Ender14 · 10-31-2019, 04:55 PM

I am very much pro-physical, but I do redeem my digital codes so family members can watch and found and unexpected perk the other day.

I was very excited about the 4K release of Gremlins. When I learned that the bonus content from the second disc of the Diamond Luxe edition were not included my excitement waned. I really enjoy the special features and try to purchase whichever edition of a movie has the best features (after PQ and AQ of course). So my thought was to go ahead and purchase the Diamond Luxe edition and wait for a sale on the 4K.

Well I was in Target over the weekend and the 4K was on sale. I decided to go ahead and support the 4K format and purchase it with plans to get the Diamond Luxe at a later date. When I redeemed the digital code I checked Movies Anywhere to make sure it redeemed in 4K and found that the special features from the Diamond Luxe edition are included digitally. Needless to say I was extremely happy. In this case the digital copy saved me some money.

Of course, I'm aware that could all disappear at any time so I better watch them quick.

Steedeel · 10-31-2019, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Donster

Again, repost your original predictions when one of them comes true Steedeel

I did.

Vilya · 10-31-2019, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Not a chance.

I think he is referring to how saturated the SVOD market is becoming and that many will likely fail.

The_Donster · 10-31-2019, 05:07 PM

No, you didn’t. Saying ‘you predicted’ and reposting where originally ‘you predicted’ are two different things.

Vilya · 10-31-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

I did.

Where?

I looked at all of your posts made in this thread today, so far, and none contain any links.

He was asking that you link to your original post where you first made the predictions in question. I see no such links. My vision is fine, too, whatever you may think of my elder attention span.

Steedeel · 10-31-2019, 05:18 PM

You guys are disputing it. Find it in your own. It’s obviously a wind up because I have said it as many times as Alchav has said ‘Its all digital how’.

There is no way you guys CANT have seen it.

The_Donster · 10-31-2019, 05:22 PM

Typical, lazy Steedeel

avs commenter · 10-31-2019, 05:22 PM

The need to own and rewatch content is definitely decreasing for a lot of people.

Steedeel · 10-31-2019, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Donster

Typical, lazy Steedeel

Swear on your life you haven’t seen me post it before?

Vilya · 10-31-2019, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

You guys are disputing it. Find it in your own. It’s obviously a wind up because I have said it as many times as Alchav has said ‘Its all digital how’.

There is no way you guys CANT have seen it.

My point was that you did not do what you claimed to have done: you posted no such link, yet you said that you did.

It is really moot, anyways, as your prediction about digital dying has not happened, so no gold star for you.

Your prediction that UV would close is also trivial as you did not predict when; you had a 50% chance with predicting its mere closure the same as any other primate would have had.

Lastly, the burden of proof is always upon the person making a claim. It is not our job to prove your claims. Further, reading your posts once is plenty; asking us to wade through the oceans of nonsense that you have posted over these many years to find one specific instance of your nonsense would be unbearable torture.

Your refusal to support your own argument is just laziness (even you don't want to reread your posts) and in the rules of debate an unproven, or dropped, argument is a lost argument.

Vilya · 10-31-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Swear on your life you haven’t seen me post it before?

Irrelevant.

It is not his responsibility to prove your arguments.

Steedeel · 10-31-2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vilya

Irrelevant.

It is not his responsibility to prove your arguments.

It is when he is questioning my posts.

You can’t prove something if that person already knows it’s true.

AnamorphicWidescreen · 10-31-2019, 05:42 PM

This is one of my favorite threads currently on this board - frickin' hilarious.

Vilya · 10-31-2019, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

It is when he is questioning my posts.

You can’t prove something if that person already knows it’s true.

The burden of proof is ALWAYS upon the person making a claim. The question he is asking is where is the link to your original post that you lied about providing earlier.

Answering questions is integral to proving a point. EVERYONE questions your posts along with the mental state of their author.

You have no way of knowing what he, or anyone else, knows. You can prove something no matter what any one person thinks. I can prove that water boils at 100 degrees Celsius at sea level regardless of whether my audience knows this to be true already or not.

You are the most logic challenged person that I have encountered in decades. You remind me of this former classmate of mine who could not grasp that a pound of rocks weighed the same as a pound of feathers.

Vilya · 10-31-2019, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AnamorphicWidescreen

This is one of my favorite threads currently on this board - frickin' hilarious.

Happy to do my part.

cheez avenger · 10-31-2019, 05:52 PM

Apple TV+ debuts at midnight!

I am gladly giving Apple more of my money.

10-31-2019, 04:52 PM	#18643
The_Donster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Deep in the heart of NE Texas 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:216 DVD collection:231 Trading Score:14	Again, repost your original predictions when one of them comes true Steedeel

10-31-2019, 04:55 PM	#18645
Ender14 Special Member Member since:Dec 2014 Location:Georgia 4K collection:532 Blu-ray collection:1241 DVD collection:186 MA collection:469 Digital collection:147 iTunes collection:1	I am very much pro-physical, but I do redeem my digital codes so family members can watch and found and unexpected perk the other day. I was very excited about the 4K release of Gremlins. When I learned that the bonus content from the second disc of the Diamond Luxe edition were not included my excitement waned. I really enjoy the special features and try to purchase whichever edition of a movie has the best features (after PQ and AQ of course). So my thought was to go ahead and purchase the Diamond Luxe edition and wait for a sale on the 4K. Well I was in Target over the weekend and the 4K was on sale. I decided to go ahead and support the 4K format and purchase it with plans to get the Diamond Luxe at a later date. When I redeemed the digital code I checked Movies Anywhere to make sure it redeemed in 4K and found that the special features from the Diamond Luxe edition are included digitally. Needless to say I was extremely happy. In this case the digital copy saved me some money. Of course, I'm aware that could all disappear at any time so I better watch them quick.

10-31-2019, 05:07 PM	#18648
The_Donster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Deep in the heart of NE Texas 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:216 DVD collection:231 Trading Score:14	No, you didn’t. Saying ‘you predicted’ and reposting where originally ‘you predicted’ are two different things.

10-31-2019, 05:18 PM	#18650
Steedeel Blu-ray King Member since:Apr 2011 Location:England 4K collection:284 Blu-ray collection:1253	You guys are disputing it. Find it in your own. It’s obviously a wind up because I have said it as many times as Alchav has said ‘Its all digital how’. There is no way you guys CANT have seen it.

10-31-2019, 05:22 PM	#18651
The_Donster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Deep in the heart of NE Texas 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:216 DVD collection:231 Trading Score:14	Typical, lazy Steedeel

10-31-2019, 05:22 PM	#18652
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	The need to own and rewatch content is definitely decreasing for a lot of people.

10-31-2019, 05:42 PM	#18657
AnamorphicWidescreen Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2014	This is one of my favorite threads currently on this board - frickin' hilarious.

10-31-2019, 05:52 PM	#18660
cheez avenger Blu-ray Champion Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:804 Blu-ray collection:1583 Trading Score:9	Apple TV+ debuts at midnight! I am gladly giving Apple more of my money.

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