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Old 05-19-2018, 02:46 AM   #1901
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Definitely commit to Jurassic Park. It’s perfection of filmmaking unlike Black Panther, which a fun overall, good flick, but the CGI, generic story and lackluster climax really hurt it. JP is a classic.
Yeah I know, but I don't want to double dip on this. Bought the last collection a few years back. I want to know is the standard BD a remaster? If it's the same master as before no sense of getting it. But, I might be getting a 4K latter this year. But no 4K player as of yet.
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:46 AM   #1902
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I'm half tempting to return my Black Panther and get this. Since this is a more of a classic than Black Panther. Plus with all the bad audio and so so CGI. Need advice, return Black Panther and get this? Want to pre-order asap before its sold out, since its a limited edition. Also what is the audio and picture like for the 1080p? I don't have 4K setup yet.
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Old 05-19-2018, 03:15 AM   #1903
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Yeah I know, but I don't want to double dip on this. Bought the last collection a few years back. I want to know is the standard BD a remaster? If it's the same master as before no sense of getting it. But, I might be getting a 4K latter this year. But no 4K player as of yet.
Its probly the same. But i havent gotten my copy early so i cant say for.sure.
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Old 05-19-2018, 03:27 AM   #1904
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Whoever scanned that print didn't know what they were doing. It's also missing a profile. I doubt they even had the means to create the proper profile for it.
Here's a closer approximation of how it should look
Yes. that 35mm scan is too washed out to be perfect. I don't think they had the equipment to fully recreate projection bulb colour temperature; which would've created a warmer yellow-green tinted picture like your regrade. I'd love to see how the HDR colours look like on that Jeep scene. Because, from various production stills, the 3D Blu-ray, which StereoD said they fraded to match the 35mm prints and the colour of the jeep in Jurassic World, it looks more yellow and not pink, like it does in some of the above SDR stills of the UHD.

This is from a DVCam recorded in 1993, from a 35mm print in a cinema (no adjustments done) -

JP Jeep 35mm Cam.jpg

See how it resembles the above pic and even the 3D Blu-ray to some extent. It was never pinkish.

Can Geoff buddy chime in on this?

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Old 05-19-2018, 03:33 AM   #1905
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(As was also noted upthread the digital tweaks done for the 3D version have been rolled back so you'll still spot the C-stand when Rexy flips over the car and the filament of spider's web is there on the final shot of the helicopter heading out to sea.)
I just checked my iTunes copy and out of all the "goofs" in this movie, of which there are many, I've never noticed that one before.

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Thanks for the in-depth review Geoff. Sounds like it's about as good as we're ever going to get at this point. Can you comment on the framing/ zooming issues that plagued the previous BD and 3D releases? The caps I've seen thus far seem to stay true to those. I'm talking about the final beauty shot of the T-Rex with the banner falling at the end, and the Brachiosaurus scene early on.
What issues?

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Old 05-19-2018, 03:51 AM   #1906
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So, its confirmed- nothing new on the discs, sans a new scan?
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:03 AM   #1907
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I wish. Can't afford both right now.
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I wish. Can't afford both right now.
I mean it’s obvious JP is the better movie but will you eventually have both? If so I’d say stick with black panther because Disney is notorious for going up in price after new release and staying there where a catalog set tends to get discounted more often.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:24 AM   #1909
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Can anyone confirm if JP1 is still cropped on the 4K disc like the blu-ray and 3D blu-ray?
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:20 AM   #1910
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Anyone else have dents in their steelbook from Zoom? Got two. Asked for a replacement.

Also weirdly it says dolby vision on the packaging but it doesn't have it
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:48 AM   #1911
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Also weirdly it says dolby vision on the packaging but it doesn't have it
This is also the case with the Scandinavian release. Says Dolby Vision on the back. I don't own a DV capable player though so I have no way of checking if it is just a typo.
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:57 AM   #1912
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Also weirdly it says dolby vision on the packaging but it doesn't have it
It's a typo.
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:35 AM   #1913
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Going to sit back, relax, have a couple of drinks and have a movie marathon!!

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Old 05-19-2018, 08:41 AM   #1914
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Finished JP1. Not bad. Very much a newer transfer, it's solid as a rock compared to the 2011 BD which has a case of the wobbles (compare chapter 14 when Grant and the kids are walking up the hill, it's like they're in the middle of an earthquake on the old BD). A fair smattering of white (negative) dirt and scratches are visible throughout, not on the frequency or severity of the remastered Gladiator Blu-ray but regular enough. You might catch one or two flecks of dark (positive) dirt on the opticals used to generate the on-screen locations but that's printed in during that process.

Nice enough detail, not up to Sony's standards but as we've said before, who else is? There's still a definite increase in the finer spatial resolution over the Blu-ray in any case, hair and clothing is more refined and wider shots resolve more detail in the foliage. There's an ever-present amount of haloing around high contrast edges though, the ringing is mostly slight but it's definitely there. If I had to guess I'd say that they've rolled off the grain, there should be a visible scattering of the stuff on daylight exteriors and heavier grain on interiors and darker exteriors, however it's virtually non-existent in the former and only slightly more visible on the latter. And yet it rarely looks like an outright waxfest which is an important point to consider, although one of the location cards has been smacked with proper DNR, it's when Dodgson pulls up in the taxi cab to meet Nedry ('San Jose, Costa Rica') and it looks SUPER smudgy and soft (whereas they didn't feel the need to fudge that shot on the old Blu-ray transfer, it's fine there). Most of the other location opticals are fine though. And yes, this UK disc has the proper burnt in titles. Huzzah!

To echo what potty said, one area where the UHD presentation outright falls down is the CG as we're stretching the limits of what these ageing images can resolve, I heard they were done at around 1K and it really shows here. I've been a cheerleader for JP's digital VFX for the longest time but here it all badly lacks texture and sharpness, with pronounced edge ringing and very soft detail. It's funny but the CG actually blends a LOT better on the old BD because that disc is inherently lower resolution, is quite over-sharpened anyway and has more noise/grain to dither the images with. Perhaps if they'd left the grain in then it would've blended a bit better on the UHD, but it's too late for that now.

HDR is decent, a refinement more than a reimagining. APL looks to be on a par with the SDR version or thereabouts so it's not instantly dimmer. You'll catch more highlight detail in shots of clouds (like in the window behind Malcolm in the chopper as they're flying to the island) and various speculars that are on display e.g. car headlights, torch lights and so on. It's not eye-searingly bright in those moments but then HDR doesn't always have to be. Solid black levels, they're not greyed out to shit nor do they consume all shadow detail in their path, just a nice level of density commensurate to the scene. Alas, the extension in dynamic range that usually helps to better integrate CG VFX (IMO) ends up working against it because the highlights still burn out badly in the CG scenes, like the shot of Grant and Ellie looking up at the Brachiosaur into the sun, or the headlights of the CG jeep that falls when Rexy tips it over the edge, this is because they simply weren't rendered with enough range to begin with.

Colour is NOT the mud-brown 3D tint thank God, skin tones are healthy enough (you can really see the tans on some of their faces) and although the primaries might look a bit subdued when A-B'd with the almost neon-looking greenery in the old BD you gain back more nuance in those colours. As mentioned there's a weird bit with Gennaro in the jeep where it seems to drain the colour & range out as the shot progresses, but it looks like some sort of problem with the processing of the original negative to my eyes. (As was also noted upthread the digital tweaks done for the 3D version have been rolled back so you'll still spot the C-stand when Rexy flips over the car and the filament of spider's web is there on the final shot of the helicopter heading out to sea.)

Overall then it's not an amazing home run and definitely looks less organic than, say, Die Hard, never mind the average Sony joint. But it rarely tips over into Grease or T2 territory either, staying just the right side of the grain reduction devil and presenting a more detailed and dimensional looking image thanks to the decent HDR pass. Good, but not great.
So better than the 3d mess, and the standard Universal light sprinkle of grain matching?
Will wait for a sale in a few weeks.
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zoom.uk still hasn´t dispached my steelbooks

It´s the first time I bought something from that store .
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I have tried using different color profiles for myself. I dont know what I'm doing :P (and what particular color profile I should use precisely), but I still like the end result because screenshots are no longer extremely washed out.






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Old 05-19-2018, 11:41 AM   #1917
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The screencaps are not good enough to judge picture quality. Wait to see proper screencaps before bashing the transfers.
Yeah, but doesn't this come out this Tuesday? I don't want to throw away fifty bucks. I wanna know if this is worth it before I get the Amazon shipping notification.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:10 PM   #1918
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zoom.uk still hasn´t dispached my steelbooks

It´s the first time I bought something from that store .
Doesn’t mean they haven’t been dispatched, most of those that got their copies yesterday still haven’t received a dispatch email.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:11 PM   #1919
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Can anyone confirm if there are indeed no new bonus features of any kind? Also, do the standard Blus that come with the set feature a downconversion of the new transfer (s) or just exactly the same old ones?
Was confirmed a few pages back that the included Blu-rays are the same old discs and as far as the U.K. set goes there are no extras st all on the UHD discs which seems to go against the Universal press release which mentioned the extras being re-encoding in 4K?

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Old 05-19-2018, 03:00 PM   #1920
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Can anyone confirm if JP1 is still cropped on the 4K disc like the blu-ray and 3D blu-ray?
Do you have any specific examples? It seemed to match the old BD pretty closely for the spots I compared.
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