81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers - Page 97 - Blu-ray Forum

patrick99 · 09-21-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Patranus

I dont know guys, the numbers have been dropping. It has me a little worried.

The number have gone up two weeks straight after the initial impact of the Paramount deal. I am quite confident that the numbers released next Friday will continue that trend. The weekly numbers are still lower than before the Paramount deal, but most of us think that will soon change as well.

Bullseye · 09-21-2007, 07:49 PM

They would want to with all the movies I have ordered in the last two days.

WickyWoo · 09-21-2007, 07:50 PM

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I think it is far smarter to concentrate on having a balance between popular catalog titles and new release titles, as Delta Farce just ain't going to cut the muster.

Which they do

But the push concentration is on new titles, not the catalog because they sell a hell of a lot more.

LynxFX · 09-21-2007, 07:55 PM

Another win for Blu-ray, who would have thought?

Looks like the volume has fallen for the 4th straight week. Probably will be like this for another couple weeks until the big hitters start coming out. November and December will be about one thing, Blu-ray.

WriteSimply · 09-21-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Esox50

I will re-evaluate my BD only stance after 4Q08. I'm giving the BDA 16 months from now to end the little inferior pest called HD DVD (or as TheBland calls it over at AVMS..."The Trailer Park HD format"-I love that!!!).

I think you need to heed The Bland's advice.

fuad

Therickus · 09-21-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LynxFX

Another win for Blu-ray, who would have thought?

Looks like the volume has fallen for the 4th straight week. Probably will be like this for another couple weeks until the big hitters start coming out. November and December will be about one thing, Blu-ray.

I actually think starting this past tuesday(with Troy)...on through December is going to be much higher. I have myself down for 43 movies between now and then.

LynxFX · 09-21-2007, 08:12 PM

I think Troy is going to do pretty good for next weeks results, but then it is fairly underwelming for what is releasing this week. We'll probably continue the slow climb to the mid to high 60's again until Transformers hits. That will put the numbers into a chaotic mess for two weeks until Spidey hits and from then on, HD DVD is toast.

I would love to see BD pull in some big numbers from now through October though.

mattym · 09-21-2007, 08:14 PM

i think the sales have dropped heavily for both formats in the calm before the storm, so low numbers but still better numbder for bd.

BadAss · 09-21-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WriteSimply

I think you need to heed The Bland's advice.

fuad

I like this version even better.

dobyblue · 09-21-2007, 08:42 PM

"300" on Blu-ray has been the king of HDM discs for SEVEN weeks in a row now.

aygie · 09-21-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

"300" on Blu-ray has been the king of HDM discs for SEVEN weeks in a row now.

thats f**king ridiculous!

Proteus · 09-21-2007, 09:05 PM

WTH?

How did Black Hawk Down get there?!

coolmilo · 09-21-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus

WTH?

How did Black Hawk Down get there?!

$13.99 at most places.

dobyblue · 09-21-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus

WTH?

How did Black Hawk Down get there?!

not just because of the price though, because more people are buyin blu-ray standalone players right now than hddvd players

NutsAboutPS3 · 09-21-2007, 09:40 PM

To be honest, I doubt the industry is all that bothered about these statistics, as they're basically just a measure of which format has the biggest exclusive titles. If a studio switches allegiance, like Paramount did, then the numbers change, it isn't an inherent advantage of the format. I can only see three major reasons why the sales figures are interesting:

1. For neutral titles we get a measure of how well exclusive titles might sell if they were released on the other format, which is useful info for the studios. For this reason alone, Warner is providing a very valuable service to the industry by releasing on both formats as it would otherwise be hard to gauge relative levels of support.

2. Exclusive titles may cause people to purchase players, so they are of interest for that reason, in that they grow the installed base of players, which will then help that side's figures for neutral titles.

3. Catalog sales give a measure of new adopters. Titles like Casino Royale and Batman Begins still selling well shows that both formats are picking up a lot of new adopters. Player sales would be the really interesting statistic, but the PS3 makes that hard because we don't know how many people are buying it with the intent of buying BD movies, so sales of key catalog titles are a good proxy for player sales.

To illustrate what I'm saying, suppose the overall Nielsen stat was 60:40 BD:HD DVD, but neutral titles were selling better on HD DVD. I don't think the studios would see the 60:40 overall figure as showing BD being stronger, they'd just see it as a measure of BD having the stronger releases. The fact that the current week's figures are the same as the Since Inception figures shows that both formats are picking up new adopters at roughly the same % growth rate. As they said in this week's HDM, people are buying HD DVD because of price, and BD because they think it's better. If BD players could match HD DVD player prices, it would kill the sales of HD DVD players, it's really all they've got at the moment, but it's working for them, the sales of neutral titles are basically stuck in the same ratio they've always been.

jamen6 · 09-21-2007, 09:49 PM

I hope Blu-Ray will have better time next week!

Blu-Light · 09-21-2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rike255

To me this almost seems inevitable. BD has almost nothing out in that time frame to counter. (Fantastic Four is out a couple weeks before). But one or two week out of 52 means little. The small HD DVD win (I'm going to speculate it will be around 57:43 for HD DVD the week it comes out) will quickly be slienced after two weeks when Spiderman 3 comes out Blu-Ray will win by such a large margin (possibly even above the 70:30 ratio) corporations will see these numbers and know what it means. After this week Blu-Ray sales will continue to increase the gap and by the time Pirates of the Caribbean comes out the sales will be around the 75:25 or more mark.

I don't see Shrek doing very much against these three movie releases or even most of the others in the top 20.

I don't believe that dud will ever beat bluray again in these rankings. They had their chance and even transformers and shrek won't help them now.

phloyd · 09-21-2007, 10:10 PM

With Heroes and Blades of Glory together against nothing, they got to what, 46% I think?

Transformers is their only hope. Shrek 3 I think will have disappointing sales...

It would be nice if there was a Day and Date BD to go out on the same day, but then I am sure that they stagger these things intentionally so that everyone gets their day in the sun

Personally I am saving up my BD budget to spend that week... I may hold off my Fox October binge for a week or two

tvted · 09-21-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by phloyd

Personally I am saving up my BD budget to spend that week...

Back title week for me. It's all about timing.

BTW Commendable work over at AVS - don't know where you guys find the stomach for it.

ted

halon · 09-21-2007, 10:59 PM

It's very consistent. When Blu doesn't win, they are tied 5-5...so it's a push. Blu undefeated!

09-21-2007, 08:42 PM	#1930
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	"300" on Blu-ray has been the king of HDM discs for SEVEN weeks in a row now. Last edited by dobyblue; 09-21-2007 at 08:45 PM.

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09-21-2007, 07:49 PM	#1922
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	They would want to with all the movies I have ordered in the last two days.

09-21-2007, 07:55 PM	#1924
LynxFX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007	Another win for Blu-ray, who would have thought? Looks like the volume has fallen for the 4th straight week. Probably will be like this for another couple weeks until the big hitters start coming out. November and December will be about one thing, Blu-ray.

09-21-2007, 08:12 PM	#1927
LynxFX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007	I think Troy is going to do pretty good for next weeks results, but then it is fairly underwelming for what is releasing this week. We'll probably continue the slow climb to the mid to high 60's again until Transformers hits. That will put the numbers into a chaotic mess for two weeks until Spidey hits and from then on, HD DVD is toast. I would love to see BD pull in some big numbers from now through October though.

09-21-2007, 08:14 PM	#1928
mattym Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	i think the sales have dropped heavily for both formats in the calm before the storm, so low numbers but still better numbder for bd.

09-21-2007, 09:05 PM	#1932
Proteus Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:SoCal PSN:CaptBurn	WTH? How did Black Hawk Down get there?!

09-21-2007, 09:40 PM	#1935
NutsAboutPS3 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray reviews:1	To be honest, I doubt the industry is all that bothered about these statistics, as they're basically just a measure of which format has the biggest exclusive titles. If a studio switches allegiance, like Paramount did, then the numbers change, it isn't an inherent advantage of the format. I can only see three major reasons why the sales figures are interesting: 1. For neutral titles we get a measure of how well exclusive titles might sell if they were released on the other format, which is useful info for the studios. For this reason alone, Warner is providing a very valuable service to the industry by releasing on both formats as it would otherwise be hard to gauge relative levels of support. 2. Exclusive titles may cause people to purchase players, so they are of interest for that reason, in that they grow the installed base of players, which will then help that side's figures for neutral titles. 3. Catalog sales give a measure of new adopters. Titles like Casino Royale and Batman Begins still selling well shows that both formats are picking up a lot of new adopters. Player sales would be the really interesting statistic, but the PS3 makes that hard because we don't know how many people are buying it with the intent of buying BD movies, so sales of key catalog titles are a good proxy for player sales. To illustrate what I'm saying, suppose the overall Nielsen stat was 60:40 BD:HD DVD, but neutral titles were selling better on HD DVD. I don't think the studios would see the 60:40 overall figure as showing BD being stronger, they'd just see it as a measure of BD having the stronger releases. The fact that the current week's figures are the same as the Since Inception figures shows that both formats are picking up new adopters at roughly the same % growth rate. As they said in this week's HDM, people are buying HD DVD because of price, and BD because they think it's better. If BD players could match HD DVD player prices, it would kill the sales of HD DVD players, it's really all they've got at the moment, but it's working for them, the sales of neutral titles are basically stuck in the same ratio they've always been.

09-21-2007, 09:49 PM	#1936
jamen6 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:1 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:5	I hope Blu-Ray will have better time next week!

09-21-2007, 10:10 PM	#1938
phloyd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2003 Location:California Trading Score:5	With Heroes and Blades of Glory together against nothing, they got to what, 46% I think? Transformers is their only hope. Shrek 3 I think will have disappointing sales... It would be nice if there was a Day and Date BD to go out on the same day, but then I am sure that they stagger these things intentionally so that everyone gets their day in the sun Personally I am saving up my BD budget to spend that week... I may hold off my Fox October binge for a week or two

09-21-2007, 10:59 PM	#1940
halon Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Pennsylvania 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:18 Blu-ray reviews:4	It's very consistent. When Blu doesn't win, they are tied 5-5...so it's a push. Blu undefeated!

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