Question on a few Blu titles...NEED HELP - Blu-ray Forum

jcarugati · 05-23-2009, 01:18 AM

Hey,

I just have a few questions on some Blu-ray titles, which will help me decide if I want to buy them or not.

American Psycho - I have the "Killer Cut" on DVD, but I'm thinking of upgrading. I hear the picture quality is not great, but I really like this movie and was wondering if it's as bad as everyone says it is.

Twister - How is this as a title in terms of PQ and AQ? I hear mixed reviews from many people.

The Descent - I don't know technical specs of Blus, but are there two types of "The Descent?" (like by bit rate or anything)

Eyes Wide Shut and The Shining - How are these Kubrick blus in terms of PQ and AQ?

Terminator - Good PQ/AQ? Again, I hear mixed things.

Terminator 2: Skynet Edition - I hear that I need internet connection for this and I'm not sure I do. Also, it seems people are having problems with it. I have a Panasonic DMB 30, would I have problems?

Dark City - worth blind buying?

This is long-winded, but I'd appreciate help from anyone. Thank you.

AKORIS · 05-23-2009, 01:54 AM

I have a few of these-- here's my 2 cents!

THE DESCENT-- great PQ quality-- well worth buying--

DARK CITY-- good PQ (this is one where I noticed the DNR that posters
are so obsessed about-- it's very clean PQ but soft in spots)

TWISTER-- better than the dvd's (which were compression nightmares)
but still not great PQ-- light reccomendation

THE SHINING-- fantastic quality-- best it's ever looked and can't imagine
it getting any better--

I just got EYES WIDE SHUT but haven't watched it yet!

K_Williamson42 · 05-23-2009, 01:58 AM

Yeah - I'm in the same situation with American Psycho....I'm definitely interested in hearing what everyone has to say!

cajmoyper · 05-23-2009, 02:01 AM

I just popped in the Skynet edition into my fathers S350 and it was saying to connect to the internet, which is easy as heck seeing as how the cable box is right next to it but I didn't feel like messing with any Cat-6 so I put it in my PS3 and started right up. IMO, the video was more of an upgrade than the audio which has always been top notch, even as a plain old DTS track. And since it is only $20 until tomorrow at BB, I'd get that mother. Well, I did, but I meant if I were you.

ThereWillBeBud · 05-23-2009, 02:06 AM

If you're a big fan of American Psycho, I'd recommend importing the Australian release (it's region free), I hear the PQ is far superior, and slightly better AQ.

I also highly recommend Dark City, I've heard it described as a "thinking man's Matrix." It's well worth the $12.99 @ amazon.

jcarugati · 05-23-2009, 02:12 AM

ok well I think I will definitely get The Shining and Dark City, but anything about "Terminator" (are there are two versions of that as well?

I saw that they just re-released it so I'm curious.

Blu-Runner · 05-23-2009, 02:14 AM

My friend has the AUS release of American Psycho, and it was fantastic, especially the audio. I heard things, including subtle music, that I hadn't heard before.

There are two versions of The Descent, both AVC and MPEG2. You'll probably only find the MPEG2 version in the US. I actually like the MPEG2 version myself.

The Terminator was good considering the source material, not extremely sharp, some decent amount of film grain, more overall clarity in the whole picture. The new release of the The Terminator is the same as the first as far as I know, just a new cover. I have yet to see the Skynet Edition of part 2.

Dark City is probably worth the blind buy, and you can find it at $20 or less. Now if it was pushing $30, that would be another story. But it's very atmospheric, gothic and brooding... cool story, too. Oh, and the PQ/AQ in it is excellent!

Moefiz · 05-23-2009, 02:17 AM

Decent....excellent PQ and AQ...you can't go wrong for $10.00

Terminator...good PQ and AQ...can't get much better for a low budget movie form the 80's..way better than the DVD...

jcarugati · 05-23-2009, 02:22 AM

Where can you buy the australian version of American Psycho?

Moefiz · 05-23-2009, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcarugati

ok well I think I will definitely get The Shining and Dark City, but anything about "Terminator" (are there are two versions of that as well?

I saw that they just re-released it so I'm curious.

With the re-release of Terminator all you get is the new slipcover all the spec from the previous release are the same.

scweb13 · 05-23-2009, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThereWasBlood

I also highly recommend Dark City, I've heard it described as a "thinking man's Matrix." It's well worth the $12.99 @ amazon.

Thinking man, as in, is there a point to this movie? Like I've said before, it's just a "rat in a maze" experiment

[Show spoiler]

. Good action sequences? Yes. Great visuals sequences? Yes. Thought provoking? No. I thought that the Matrix was better, but don't get me wrong, Dark City is still good.

jcarugati · 05-23-2009, 02:58 AM

Ok then, well this is what I'm thinking.

Not Getting
Twister

Getting
The Shining
American Psycho - but want to know how to get australian version
Kingdom of Heaven
The Descent
Dark City
The Terminator

Not Sure
Eyes Wide Shut - need more opinions on this one

Blu-Runner · 05-23-2009, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcarugati

...
American Psycho - but want to know how to get australian version

My friend got his from CD-WOW. He said it took just over 3 weeks to get it, though.

GarettP · 05-23-2009, 03:03 AM

Twister had decent PQ, but the AQ was worth it for me!

jcarugati · 05-23-2009, 03:09 AM

Anybody have any comments on Eyes Wide Shut?

jcarugati · 05-23-2009, 03:50 AM

Anyone?

And btw, I've never seen The Shining, but I hear it's good.

sfmarine · 05-23-2009, 03:59 AM

PQ is a bit grainy and soft. It's still a big difference from the dvd version. It's also presented in widescreen which it wasn't before)same with FMJ and The Shining. They cropped it but you know how it goes...

I like it because it's uncut and you don't have the digital images in there for the censor board. You get to see it how Kubrick wanted. It's still a great film. Every time I watch it, I pick up something new. I'd recommend it!

Kubrick went out with a bang..I don't care what the critics say.

metsfan1545d · 05-23-2009, 04:34 AM

the transfer on terminator 1 is good altho there are alot of dirt of scratches on the transfer,

andyman1970 · 05-23-2009, 04:51 AM

I found Eyes Wide Shut to be an incredible transfer and much better then the DVD although not perfect. The Blu-ray also features the uncut version which gives the full effect of the masked orgy. Definitely worth picking up if your a fan of the movie.

The Shinning also looks better then ever and probably as good as it will ever get until a higher definition format comes along.

Diesel · 05-23-2009, 04:55 AM

you don't need the internet for the Skynet edition

i popped mine in and it told me it detected that i wasn't connected to the internet
i pressed my enter button on the remote and it started loading the movie
but it does take a LONG time
longer than any other movie i have

05-23-2009, 01:18 AM	#1
jcarugati Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:501	Question on a few Blu titles...NEED HELP Hey, I just have a few questions on some Blu-ray titles, which will help me decide if I want to buy them or not. American Psycho - I have the "Killer Cut" on DVD, but I'm thinking of upgrading. I hear the picture quality is not great, but I really like this movie and was wondering if it's as bad as everyone says it is. Twister - How is this as a title in terms of PQ and AQ? I hear mixed reviews from many people. The Descent - I don't know technical specs of Blus, but are there two types of "The Descent?" (like by bit rate or anything) Eyes Wide Shut and The Shining - How are these Kubrick blus in terms of PQ and AQ? Terminator - Good PQ/AQ? Again, I hear mixed things. Terminator 2: Skynet Edition - I hear that I need internet connection for this and I'm not sure I do. Also, it seems people are having problems with it. I have a Panasonic DMB 30, would I have problems? Dark City - worth blind buying? This is long-winded, but I'd appreciate help from anyone. Thank you.

05-23-2009, 03:50 AM	#16
jcarugati Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:501	Anyone? And btw, I've never seen The Shining, but I hear it's good. Last edited by jcarugati; 05-23-2009 at 03:56 AM. Reason: wanted to add more

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05-23-2009, 01:54 AM	#2
AKORIS Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Beautiful Pacific Northwest 4K collection:662 Blu-ray collection:3655 Blu-ray reviews:19	I have a few of these-- here's my 2 cents! THE DESCENT-- great PQ quality-- well worth buying-- DARK CITY-- good PQ (this is one where I noticed the DNR that posters are so obsessed about-- it's very clean PQ but soft in spots) TWISTER-- better than the dvd's (which were compression nightmares) but still not great PQ-- light reccomendation THE SHINING-- fantastic quality-- best it's ever looked and can't imagine it getting any better-- I just got EYES WIDE SHUT but haven't watched it yet!

05-23-2009, 01:58 AM	#3
K_Williamson42 Active Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:418 Trading Score:16	Yeah - I'm in the same situation with American Psycho....I'm definitely interested in hearing what everyone has to say!

05-23-2009, 02:01 AM	#4
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	I just popped in the Skynet edition into my fathers S350 and it was saying to connect to the internet, which is easy as heck seeing as how the cable box is right next to it but I didn't feel like messing with any Cat-6 so I put it in my PS3 and started right up. IMO, the video was more of an upgrade than the audio which has always been top notch, even as a plain old DTS track. And since it is only $20 until tomorrow at BB, I'd get that mother. Well, I did, but I meant if I were you.

05-23-2009, 02:06 AM	#5
ThereWillBeBud Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:SU Blu-ray collection:393 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:31	If you're a big fan of American Psycho, I'd recommend importing the Australian release (it's region free), I hear the PQ is far superior, and slightly better AQ. I also highly recommend Dark City, I've heard it described as a "thinking man's Matrix." It's well worth the $12.99 @ amazon.

05-23-2009, 02:12 AM	#6
jcarugati Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:501	ok well I think I will definitely get The Shining and Dark City, but anything about "Terminator" (are there are two versions of that as well? I saw that they just re-released it so I'm curious.

05-23-2009, 02:14 AM	#7
Blu-Runner Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:85 Blu-ray collection:203 DVD collection:3 Trading Score:16	My friend has the AUS release of American Psycho, and it was fantastic, especially the audio. I heard things, including subtle music, that I hadn't heard before. There are two versions of The Descent, both AVC and MPEG2. You'll probably only find the MPEG2 version in the US. I actually like the MPEG2 version myself. The Terminator was good considering the source material, not extremely sharp, some decent amount of film grain, more overall clarity in the whole picture. The new release of the The Terminator is the same as the first as far as I know, just a new cover. I have yet to see the Skynet Edition of part 2. Dark City is probably worth the blind buy, and you can find it at $20 or less. Now if it was pushing $30, that would be another story. But it's very atmospheric, gothic and brooding... cool story, too. Oh, and the PQ/AQ in it is excellent!

05-23-2009, 02:17 AM	#8
Moefiz Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:288 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:70	Decent....excellent PQ and AQ...you can't go wrong for $10.00 Terminator...good PQ and AQ...can't get much better for a low budget movie form the 80's..way better than the DVD...

05-23-2009, 02:22 AM	#9
jcarugati Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:501	Where can you buy the australian version of American Psycho?

05-23-2009, 02:58 AM	#12
jcarugati Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:501	Ok then, well this is what I'm thinking. Not Getting Twister Getting The Shining American Psycho - but want to know how to get australian version Kingdom of Heaven The Descent Dark City The Terminator Not Sure Eyes Wide Shut - need more opinions on this one

05-23-2009, 03:03 AM	#14
GarettP Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Montrose, CO Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:21	Twister had decent PQ, but the AQ was worth it for me!

05-23-2009, 03:09 AM	#15
jcarugati Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:501	Anybody have any comments on Eyes Wide Shut?

05-23-2009, 03:59 AM	#17
sfmarine Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Swan Station aDdIcTeD 2 LOST PSN:U5MC51473 Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:931 Blu-ray collection:2312 DVD collection:276 MA collection:461 Digital collection:492 iTunes collection:534 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:43	PQ is a bit grainy and soft. It's still a big difference from the dvd version. It's also presented in widescreen which it wasn't before)same with FMJ and The Shining. They cropped it but you know how it goes... I like it because it's uncut and you don't have the digital images in there for the censor board. You get to see it how Kubrick wanted. It's still a great film. Every time I watch it, I pick up something new. I'd recommend it! Kubrick went out with a bang..I don't care what the critics say.

05-23-2009, 04:34 AM	#18
metsfan1545d Special Member Member since:Sep 2008 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:134 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:14	the transfer on terminator 1 is good altho there are alot of dirt of scratches on the transfer,

05-23-2009, 04:51 AM	#19
andyman1970 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Birmingham, Alabama, USA DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 45 Trading Score:7	I found Eyes Wide Shut to be an incredible transfer and much better then the DVD although not perfect. The Blu-ray also features the uncut version which gives the full effect of the masked orgy. Definitely worth picking up if your a fan of the movie. The Shinning also looks better then ever and probably as good as it will ever get until a higher definition format comes along.

05-23-2009, 04:55 AM	#20
Diesel Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 31 Trading Score:10	you don't need the internet for the Skynet edition i popped mine in and it told me it detected that i wasn't connected to the internet i pressed my enter button on the remote and it started loading the movie but it does take a LONG time longer than any other movie i have

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