UK Trainspotting picture issues! Help? - Blu-ray Forum

MattDean · 06-05-2009, 07:42 AM

Has anyone else noticed this?

I have just attempted to watch the new Film4 release of Trainspotting but gave up after 40 mins or so as I noticed a recurring problem in the presentation. Every so often the picture seemed to freeze, making any movement following this appear 'jerky'.

Here are a few examples:
-during the opening sequence (no, not the bits that are meant to freeze!)
-when Renton and Sickboy are walking across the park just before they shoot the dog
-just as Dianne leaves the Volcano club.

Could it be a poor transfer problem? They have crammed a lot on a single layer disc. I have a PS3 with the latest update and a 52inch Sony Bravia LCD.

Could my disc be the problem? Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe it's just mine

It's a real shame, I was looking forward to this release. FYI the audio is 5.1/DTS lossy only, also. Fantastic extras though.

If I get the time I'll post more specific details of when the problems occur.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Matt

richieb1971 · 06-05-2009, 03:21 PM

Just watched this now since you posted. I never encountered any jerkiness or skipping. Although I did notice 2 frames jump. Not a big deal for me.

Its a shame it has no lossless soundtrack, with DD5.1 and DTS being the only options.

MattDean · 06-05-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richieb1971

Just watched this now since you posted. I never encountered any jerkiness or skipping. Although I did notice 2 frames jump. Not a big deal for me.

Its a shame it has no lossless soundtrack, with DD5.1 and DTS being the only options.

Maybe that's what I experienced?

Mmmm.

Anyone else notice anything?

Matt

csbbb · 08-06-2009, 09:32 PM

I know it's an old thread, but just got this on LoveFilm rental and noticed the exact same thing, and at the exact same points, especially the point at which Diane leaves the club. In case it helps, I'm running a PS3 too, through a Panasonic LCD.

Thanks for helping me realise it's not a problem with my setup, hope I've managed to do the same for you!

richieb1971 · 08-07-2009, 03:30 AM

If it happens during horizontal panning, its probably telecine judder.

I've never noticed it myself. Or any other problem.

csbbb · 08-07-2009, 10:01 AM

Hi. Thanks for the post.

Reading the comments here that's a fair guess, but this is definitely not telecine flicker. Nor is it a 1080P/24fps judder thing, either. It happens in scenes where there's no panning at all. The scene were Diane leaves the club is a static shot with a door smallish in the frame. As the door opens and the person steps out, the movement looks like it's slowed down to 2fps, let alone 24!

I skipped back and watched that bit a dozen times trying to figure out what was going on. I switched the TV off and on, checked the cables, cleaned the disc and reset the PS3 to try and get to the bottom of it before I found similar stories on the web. It's either a serious problem with the transfer, or something about the disc which isn't compatible properly with certain Blu Ray players.

Anyway, hope this helps.

richieb1971 · 08-07-2009, 01:10 PM

I will check it tonight when I get home to see if those symptoms happen on my set up. If I can be bothered I will upload a video of it in action.

MattDean · 08-08-2009, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csbbb

Hi. Thanks for the post.

Reading the comments here that's a fair guess, but this is definitely not telecine flicker. Nor is it a 1080P/24fps judder thing, either. It happens in scenes where there's no panning at all. The scene were Diane leaves the club is a static shot with a door smallish in the frame. As the door opens and the person steps out, the movement looks like it's slowed down to 2fps, let alone 24!

I skipped back and watched that bit a dozen times trying to figure out what was going on. I switched the TV off and on, checked the cables, cleaned the disc and reset the PS3 to try and get to the bottom of it before I found similar stories on the web. It's either a serious problem with the transfer, or something about the disc which isn't compatible properly with certain Blu Ray players.

Anyway, hope this helps.

Yup, I'm confused!

I haven't been able to watch it all the way through because things like this bug me! I have the Collector's Ed DVD from a few years back and don't recall any such problems on that. Perhaps it is a compatibility problem if not everyone's experiencing it. However, surely with the latest firmware upgrades on the PS3 these issues shouldn't arise?

Matt.

csbbb · 08-08-2009, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattDean

However, surely with the latest firmware upgrades on the PS3 these issues shouldn't arise?

Yep, you'd think so, wouldn't you? After all Sony did invent the whole blu-ray thing in the first place!

The Driver · 08-08-2009, 02:10 PM

Just finished watching via PC ROM @ 1080p. Very nice transfer both sound and image. Seen things I've not seen since seeing this in the cinema.

The thing people are talking about (let's call it the 'effect' -I don't think it's an artifact from the video processing) is present 6 or 7 times in the film. I say "film" because I don't think it's video related. It may be and maybe someone who knows much more will comment.

I reckon it's just part of the actual film. Maybe they could of used a better film to strike the transfer. The director and producers will know. Either way it removes nothing from the excellent experience of watching it and I consider there to be no fault.

The Driver · 08-08-2009, 02:35 PM

Further comment:

UK:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies...87&show=review
http://www.avforums.com/movies/index...diareview=9740

Japan version:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1671...otting_jp.html
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ng_blu-ray.htm

I think we have a film which is just that: film. Rough, grainy, and rather filmic. I have no problem with that.

Pork Chop Express · 03-15-2012, 06:14 PM

No doubt it's been covered before,but i've seen that Trainspotting's going for the bargain price of £5.77 on Amazon.However,i've read a lot of negative reviews on site regarding picture 'judder' on Blu.Is it worth it?

DaveSimonH · 03-15-2012, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pork Chop Express

No doubt it's been covered before,but i've seen that Trainspotting's going for the bargain price of £5.77 on Amazon.However,i've read a lot of negative reviews on site regarding picture 'judder' on Blu.Is it worth it?

The harsh edge enhancement annoyed me more than the occasional judder.
I think the US release is better, but its region A locked.

BigNickUK · 03-15-2012, 06:48 PM

Yep there is even a thread about it....search!

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=101868

rjf78 · 03-16-2012, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveSimonH

The harsh edge enhancement annoyed me more than the occasional judder.
I think the US release is better, but its region A locked.

It's also the censored R-rated version.

deepbreathsanddeath · 04-24-2013, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjf78

It's also the censored R-rated version.

Do you mean that the US release is the censored R-rated version?

DaveSimonH · 04-24-2013, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepbreathsanddeath

Do you mean that the US release is the censored R-rated version?

Apparently so, although its minor cuts wouldn't put me off re-buying the US release.
The edge enhancement on UK disc is much more of a problem in my opinion.

Aniki · 04-24-2013, 09:21 PM

Hi,
I have the Canadian release of this and I'm pleased to advise that I can spot not a single issue like that described above.
In fact it's a very solid release.
Sure the prints a little scratchy in places but overall it's a superb looking transfer with an excellent level of detail.
It's also 1080P AVC and has a DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio option.
-
If the UK release is 1080i, the symptoms described could well be some kind of weird frame rate conversion error.....

SymbioticFunction · 04-24-2013, 09:29 PM

I bought Japanese - wasn't cheap. As for the jerky effect being 'part of the actual film,' it isn't present on that release.

06-05-2009, 07:42 AM	#1
MattDean Senior Member Member since:Sep 2008 Trading Score:10	UK Trainspotting picture issues! Help? Has anyone else noticed this? I have just attempted to watch the new Film4 release of Trainspotting but gave up after 40 mins or so as I noticed a recurring problem in the presentation. Every so often the picture seemed to freeze, making any movement following this appear 'jerky'. Here are a few examples: -during the opening sequence (no, not the bits that are meant to freeze!) -when Renton and Sickboy are walking across the park just before they shoot the dog -just as Dianne leaves the Volcano club. Could it be a poor transfer problem? They have crammed a lot on a single layer disc. I have a PS3 with the latest update and a 52inch Sony Bravia LCD. Could my disc be the problem? Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe it's just mine It's a real shame, I was looking forward to this release. FYI the audio is 5.1/DTS lossy only, also. Fantastic extras though. If I get the time I'll post more specific details of when the problems occur. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Matt Last edited by MattDean; 06-05-2009 at 03:51 PM.

03-15-2012, 06:14 PM	#12
Pork Chop Express Banned Member since:Sep 2009	Trainspotting picture problems No doubt it's been covered before,but i've seen that Trainspotting's going for the bargain price of £5.77 on Amazon.However,i've read a lot of negative reviews on site regarding picture 'judder' on Blu.Is it worth it?

04-24-2013, 09:29 PM	#19
SymbioticFunction Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Chichester, UK 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:121 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2	I bought Japanese - wasn't cheap. As for the jerky effect being 'part of the actual film,' it isn't present on that release. Last edited by SymbioticFunction; 04-24-2013 at 09:31 PM.

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06-05-2009, 03:21 PM	#2
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	Just watched this now since you posted. I never encountered any jerkiness or skipping. Although I did notice 2 frames jump. Not a big deal for me. Its a shame it has no lossless soundtrack, with DD5.1 and DTS being the only options.

08-06-2009, 09:32 PM	#4
csbbb New Member Member since:Aug 2009	I know it's an old thread, but just got this on LoveFilm rental and noticed the exact same thing, and at the exact same points, especially the point at which Diane leaves the club. In case it helps, I'm running a PS3 too, through a Panasonic LCD. Thanks for helping me realise it's not a problem with my setup, hope I've managed to do the same for you!

08-07-2009, 03:30 AM	#5
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	If it happens during horizontal panning, its probably telecine judder. I've never noticed it myself. Or any other problem.

08-07-2009, 10:01 AM	#6
csbbb New Member Member since:Aug 2009	Hi. Thanks for the post. Reading the comments here that's a fair guess, but this is definitely not telecine flicker. Nor is it a 1080P/24fps judder thing, either. It happens in scenes where there's no panning at all. The scene were Diane leaves the club is a static shot with a door smallish in the frame. As the door opens and the person steps out, the movement looks like it's slowed down to 2fps, let alone 24! I skipped back and watched that bit a dozen times trying to figure out what was going on. I switched the TV off and on, checked the cables, cleaned the disc and reset the PS3 to try and get to the bottom of it before I found similar stories on the web. It's either a serious problem with the transfer, or something about the disc which isn't compatible properly with certain Blu Ray players. Anyway, hope this helps.

08-07-2009, 01:10 PM	#7
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	I will check it tonight when I get home to see if those symptoms happen on my set up. If I can be bothered I will upload a video of it in action.

08-08-2009, 02:10 PM	#10
The Driver Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Location:UK Trading Score:1	Just finished watching via PC ROM @ 1080p. Very nice transfer both sound and image. Seen things I've not seen since seeing this in the cinema. The thing people are talking about (let's call it the 'effect' -I don't think it's an artifact from the video processing) is present 6 or 7 times in the film. I say "film" because I don't think it's video related. It may be and maybe someone who knows much more will comment. I reckon it's just part of the actual film. Maybe they could of used a better film to strike the transfer. The director and producers will know. Either way it removes nothing from the excellent experience of watching it and I consider there to be no fault.

08-08-2009, 02:35 PM	#11
The Driver Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Location:UK Trading Score:1	Further comment: UK: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies...87&show=review http://www.avforums.com/movies/index...diareview=9740 Japan version: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1671...otting_jp.html http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ng_blu-ray.htm I think we have a film which is just that: film. Rough, grainy, and rather filmic. I have no problem with that.

03-15-2012, 06:48 PM	#14
BigNickUK Moderator Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Leek, Staffordshire 4K collection:1342 Blu-ray collection:5193 DVD collection:64 Blu-ray reviews: 40 Trading Score:3	Yep there is even a thread about it....search! https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=101868

04-24-2013, 09:21 PM	#18
Aniki Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Adachi, Tokyo Blu-ray collection:411	Hi, I have the Canadian release of this and I'm pleased to advise that I can spot not a single issue like that described above. In fact it's a very solid release. Sure the prints a little scratchy in places but overall it's a superb looking transfer with an excellent level of detail. It's also 1080P AVC and has a DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio option. - If the UK release is 1080i, the symptoms described could well be some kind of weird frame rate conversion error.....

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