Denon 4308ci or Pioneer Elite sc-07 - Blu-ray Forum

i JACK o · 06-16-2009, 01:37 AM

through assistance from others i have narrowed down my desicion for my av reciever upgrade to:

OPTION A:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UL6KF8/...N&linkCode=asn

OPTION B:
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-...5115655&sr=8-1

when you give your opinion please dont consider the difference in price simply performance based i have a sony bravia 46'' LCD,klipsch quintet sl speakers,and a klipsch 200w 10'' sub.

Geezer00003 · 06-16-2009, 01:42 AM

On my second Denon receiver and can only say I'd do it again!

Go with the Denon, that's a top notch unit!

callas01 · 06-16-2009, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i JACK o

through assistance from others i have narrowed down my desicion for my av reciever upgrade to:

OPTION A:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UL6KF8/...N&linkCode=asn

OPTION B:
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-...5115655&sr=8-1

when you give your opinion please dont consider the difference in price simply performance based i have a sony bravia 46'' LCD,klipsch quintet sl speakers,and a klipsch 200w 10'' sub.

See if you can audition them locally and see which one you prefer and then buy that one. Everyone has their own opinions, it up to you to make your own opinion. Either way you are getting a Phenominal receiver.

Big Daddy · 06-16-2009, 01:49 AM

That is an excellent price for the Denon receiver. I own the Denon 4308ci receiver. I use it as a preamp/processor and power my speakers with external amplifiers. I bought the receiver for five reasons:

Quality and reputation of Denon
Two HDMI outputs as I use a projector and a TV in my HT room.
WiFi support.
Support for 4 side surround speakers in addition to 2 rear surround speakers.
Support for advanced Audyssey multi equalization.

Prior to the Denon, I owned a top-of-the-line Pioneer Elite receiver that did not have HDMI. Denon and Pioneer Elite are two classy receivers.

Blu-Raider · 06-16-2009, 01:49 AM

I own a 4308ci and absolutely love it. Just be aware that the 4310ci is out very, very soon. Check the Denon website.

i JACK o · 06-16-2009, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Raider

I own a 4308ci and absolutely love it. Just be aware that the 4310ci is out very, very soon. Check the Denon website.

what do you mean by out very very soon

crazyBLUE · 06-16-2009, 02:01 AM

Thanks to the link for the denon ! I am looking for receiver upgrade & that is an awesome price !!

Big Daddy · 06-16-2009, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by i JACK o

what do you mean by out very very soon

http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4851.asp

The main diference between 4310ci and 4308ci is support for Dolby PLIIz, 6 HDMI inputs, and minor tweaks.

i JACK o · 06-16-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4851.asp

The main diference between 4310ci and 4308ci is support for Dolby PLIIz, 6 HDMI inputs, and minor tweaks.

i definitly respect the hell out of your opinion based on your home theater which is amazing by the way,so do you think the 10 is better then the 8 or should i just go with witch ever is cheaper due to no big difference

Big Daddy · 06-16-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by i JACK o

i definitly respect the hell out of your opinion based on your home theater which is amazing by the way,so do you think the 10 is better then the 8 or should i just go with witch ever is cheaper due to no big difference

The Denon 4308ci does not have many shortcomings. It pretty much has everything a typical person needs for a relatively high-end home theater. Dolby PLIIz is a gimmick in my opinion. Do you really need 6 HDMI inputs? As far as other tweaks, I am not sure you can tell the difference between the two models. In the final analysis, you have to see how much money you can save by buying the 4308ci over the newer model.

i JACK o · 06-16-2009, 02:22 AM

thanks a lot and no i dont need six hdmi's just 3 directv,xbox360,and ps3 so im decided ill order the 4308 now thanks big daddy for the assistance you

crazyBLUE · 06-16-2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by i JACK o

thanks a lot and no i dont need six hdmi's just 3 directv,xbox360,and ps3 so im decided ill order the 4308 now thanks big daddy for the assistance you

Thanks for the post ! Because I think I have decided as well & BD does

Thanks i JACK o

got rice · 06-16-2009, 03:44 PM

Based on pure performance and features I would go with the Denon for sure.

Based on spending the $1500.00, I would go with a SC-07 offers all the same features as the Denon, 2 HDMI outs/ 4 HDMI in, Ethernet port for HMG and future firmware updates. ICE amp technology( Power bench tested at 135 watts running 7 channels). Advanced MCAAC calibration.

Use the remaining $650.00 on another SUB-10 and the rest on BLU's.

Or buy a mack daddy sub. HSU VTF 3.3 or Epik Sentinal.

Either way you are one of the luckiest 15 yr olds around. Good luck.

dobyblue · 06-16-2009, 09:02 PM

I definitely don't think the 4308CI is worth 850 more than the SC-07 and I'd jump on it at that price in a heartbeat.

The 4308CI is a great receiver no doubt, but it is over-priced compared to other receivers in its league that perform equally as well in bench-mark tests like frequency response, RMS, distortion, etc.

Denon 4308CI benchmark - http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/rec...-receiver.html

Pioneer Elite SC-07 benchmark - http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/rec...nch-page3.html

The 4308ci has some of the best analog performance on the market in the receiver category, that is where it continues to shine over most of its competitors...but where digital is concerned there is very little difference.

rrios28 · 06-17-2009, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by i JACK o

thanks a lot and no i dont need six hdmi's just 3 directv,xbox360,and ps3 so im decided ill order the 4308 now thanks big daddy for the assistance you

i jack, great choice.

rrios28 · 06-17-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

The Denon 4308ci does not have many shortcomings. It pretty much has everything a typical person needs for a relatively high-end home theater. Dolby PLIIz is a gimmick in my opinion. Do you really need 6 HDMI inputs? As far as other tweaks, I am not sure you can tell the difference between the two models. In the final analysis, you have to see how much money you can save by buying the 4308ci over the newer model.

Big Daddy, whats you thoughts on my set up.?

Big Daddy · 06-17-2009, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rrios28

Big Daddy, whats you thoughts on my set up.?

Your setup is very good. Do you have a gallery?

06-16-2009, 01:37 AM	#1
i JACK o Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2009 Location:North Carolina Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:340 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Denon 4308ci or Pioneer Elite sc-07 through assistance from others i have narrowed down my desicion for my av reciever upgrade to: OPTION A: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UL6KF8/...N&linkCode=asn OPTION B: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-...5115655&sr=8-1 when you give your opinion please dont consider the difference in price simply performance based i have a sony bravia 46'' LCD,klipsch quintet sl speakers,and a klipsch 200w 10'' sub.

06-16-2009, 01:49 AM	#4
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	That is an excellent price for the Denon receiver. I own the Denon 4308ci receiver. I use it as a preamp/processor and power my speakers with external amplifiers. I bought the receiver for five reasons: Quality and reputation of Denon Two HDMI outputs as I use a projector and a TV in my HT room. WiFi support. Support for 4 side surround speakers in addition to 2 rear surround speakers. Support for advanced Audyssey multi equalization. Prior to the Denon, I owned a top-of-the-line Pioneer Elite receiver that did not have HDMI. Denon and Pioneer Elite are two classy receivers.

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crazyBLUE Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Pacific Northwest Home Theater Gallery:89 Blu-ray collection:479 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:30	Thanks to the link for the denon ! I am looking for receiver upgrade & that is an awesome price !!

06-16-2009, 02:22 AM	#11
i JACK o Active Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2009 Location:North Carolina Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:340 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	thanks a lot and no i dont need six hdmi's just 3 directv,xbox360,and ps3 so im decided ill order the 4308 now thanks big daddy for the assistance you

06-16-2009, 03:44 PM	#13
got rice Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009	Based on pure performance and features I would go with the Denon for sure. Based on spending the $1500.00, I would go with a SC-07 offers all the same features as the Denon, 2 HDMI outs/ 4 HDMI in, Ethernet port for HMG and future firmware updates. ICE amp technology( Power bench tested at 135 watts running 7 channels). Advanced MCAAC calibration. Use the remaining $650.00 on another SUB-10 and the rest on BLU's. Or buy a mack daddy sub. HSU VTF 3.3 or Epik Sentinal. Either way you are one of the luckiest 15 yr olds around. Good luck.

06-16-2009, 09:02 PM	#14
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	I definitely don't think the 4308CI is worth 850 more than the SC-07 and I'd jump on it at that price in a heartbeat. The 4308CI is a great receiver no doubt, but it is over-priced compared to other receivers in its league that perform equally as well in bench-mark tests like frequency response, RMS, distortion, etc. Denon 4308CI benchmark - http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/rec...-receiver.html Pioneer Elite SC-07 benchmark - http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/rec...nch-page3.html The 4308ci has some of the best analog performance on the market in the receiver category, that is where it continues to shine over most of its competitors...but where digital is concerned there is very little difference.

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