Sony is brilliant - Blu-ray Forum

bthomasprime · 10-06-2005, 06:14 AM

Sony has done very well in countering HD-DVDs every move. It first started with the Blu-ray Disc's higher capacity dual-layered 50GB discs. Next Sony acquired MGM Studios and together with Sony pictures made them exclusive on the Blu-ray format. Finally, Sony made Blu-ray disc drives one of the key technologies in the forthcoming Playstation 3. With every major studio having joined the BDA or in Warner Bros. and Universal's case soon to join, the format war will be over before Blu-ray even hits the market. I highly doubt that HD-DVD will even go to market, becuase it's chance of success will be minimal at best. It's just a fact that Sony took the greater risk and spent more money to deliver a superior technology and is inevitably going to reap the benefits. Hollywood and the consumer electronics industry are finally seeing Sony's way to the future and I couln't be happier.

zombie · 10-06-2005, 02:58 PM

Agreed. Sony has certainly covered all their bases in this format war. We can only hope the finished product is everything it can be.

Alex Pallas · 10-06-2005, 03:06 PM

Sony's by far the most innovative electronics company, i remember reading an interview somewhere that by at least the PlayStation 9, Sony wanted to be able to link the machine directly to the brain, whats really cool is that they're serious about innovation adn excited about the future of technology, rather than profits

Chappers · 10-07-2005, 11:58 AM

I think Sony has changed, as a company. They've matured.

In some respects, some parts of the company still cut corners and don't really push the company ethos. But mainly, and especially of late, they have shown a degree of humility that is quite the rarity in such a large company. Their backing down over non-support of mp3 is just one such example.

But to look at where they're going and what they've achieve, it really is very impressive. They've pushed hard with some distinct products which other electronics giants would never have had the gaul to go it alone on - such as the Playstation.

There is a bright future for Sony I predict, as long as they continue to be prepared to compromise in the interests of the greater good, and they try to push the relevant sections of the company keep up with quality and innovation.

Those who continue to knock Sony should take off their blinkers and wake up to a company that is a lot more human than a few others I can think. Sony's products are not perfect, and often far from it, but they seem to actually learn from their mistakes, and that makes them a respectable company in my book.

Knight-Errant · 10-07-2005, 03:04 PM

Sony's stand on the high quality of bluray has been very endearing to me. I will try to get a Sony player when they become available.

zombie · 10-07-2005, 03:09 PM

I also plan on making my first Blu-ray player a Sony. They've put forth all this effort into Blu-ray so they deserve my money. Besides I have no complaints about my Sony receiver and Sony DVD player.

Alex Pallas · 10-07-2005, 03:19 PM

still many people dont buy Sony products because they are more expensive than others, but the Sony stuff definately has a tendency to perform better and lasts longer; while everybody is stocking up on $400 Dell laptops i consider my Sony Vaio well worth the $2000

Dr. Righteous · 10-07-2005, 06:34 PM

We all remember the VHS vs Beta battle.
Even though Sony's Beta was a surperior format, VHS won because it was licensed to many electronics manufacturers while Sony tried to hold on to there patented formats. When they figured out that people was just not going the price of a Sony Beta, they released the format to a few manufactures but it was too late. VHS was the prefered format.
The Beta was a "scaled down" version of the Sony Umatic 1" studio decks. A bedrock technology used by ALL television studios.
SONY has really learned from past mistakes. It does not matter Which is better. What matters is targeting markets, and making the product easily accessable to everyone. This time they started YEARS in advance. The adverage person on the street has never heard of Blue-Ray. But they sure know what a DVD is.

Waelan · 10-08-2005, 09:21 AM

I thought one of the huge issues with VHS and Beta was that VHS could hold more video length than Beta. People never hear of new formats at first thats what advertising is for.

Blackraven · 10-16-2005, 04:26 AM

The way I see it, Sony is indeed making sure that the Blu-ray format will be come the Optical disc format for the upcoming generation (they along with everyone in BDA as well as other companies giving help/support for the success of Blu-ray).

It will be HD-DVD in nearly everything (at least 90%) and you won't need to be a psychic/fortune teller just to know that.

The only thing that worries me though are the ff:

-Region coding (this indeed on Bullsh*t feature)
-If Blu-ray devices (especially players) would be REQUIRED to be connected to the Internet (again, more BS because it is a hassle & not all areas have broadband internet)
-AACS or the anti-piracy measure on Blu-ray will block all players from playing discs that are not within the region (even if those discs are original & legit copies)

Aside from that, there are no other problems that I see with the new format.

zombie · 10-16-2005, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackraven

It will be HD-DVD in nearly everything (at least 90%) and you won't need to be a psychic/fortune teller just to know that.

Okay so your post seems to favor BD except for this line. Was this just a mistake of stating HD-DVD instead of Blu-ray?

Alex Pallas · 10-16-2005, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2blu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackraven

It will be HD-DVD in nearly everything (at least 90%) and you won't need to be a psychic/fortune teller just to know that.

Okay so your post seems to favor BD except for this line. Was this just a mistake of stating HD-DVD instead of Blu-ray?

i think he's saying HD-DVD will pick up more steam at first because it will probably be released earlier, which makes sense

zombie · 10-16-2005, 07:24 PM

Have thing's changed? The last I read Blu-ray's launch was planned for February with PS3 in May... HD-DVD's launch is expected in March.

Patrick · 10-16-2005, 09:06 PM

I think it was just an error, and he meant to say Blu-ray. I dont see Hd-dvd being in 10 % much less 90%. They dont even have that much support in electronic companies. I doubt Hd-dvd will even make it out. When will Warner officially announce support for Blu-ray?

Alex Pallas · 10-17-2005, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2blu

Have thing's changed? The last I read Blu-ray's launch was planned for February with PS3 in May... HD-DVD's launch is expected in March.

really? i thought HD-DVD was going to be released first...wow, shows what i know

Gorkab · 10-17-2005, 07:09 AM

That's awesome, but will that be the same in Europe ?

zombie · 10-17-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Pallas

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2blu

Have thing's changed? The last I read Blu-ray's launch was planned for February with PS3 in May... HD-DVD's launch is expected in March.

really? i thought HD-DVD was going to be released first...wow, shows what i know

HD-DVD was originally going to launch this month. Then Paramount said they wouldn't realize any titles until next year, Warner said they "probably" would do the same as Paramount, and Universal cut their launch list down from 16 to 12. Next thing you know Toshiba announces they are postponing HD-DVD's launch until spring.

There should be a thread about this in the Latest News forum.

zombie · 10-17-2005, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorkab

That's awesome, but will that be the same in Europe ?

Unfortunately I haven't read any prospective launch dates for BD outside of the USA. Sorry.

thunderhawk · 10-17-2005, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2blu

Unfortunately I haven't read any prospective launch dates for BD outside of the USA. Sorry.

Surprised Gorkab? -_-"
Its always the same

:?
Whatever.

About Sony, I wondered why they lost at the DVD issue. :?
Yes, by Time Warner.. And the rest?

Gorkab · 10-17-2005, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2blu

Unfortunately I haven't read any prospective launch dates for BD outside of the USA. Sorry.

Surprised Gorkab? -_-"
Its always the same

:?
Whatever.

Sadly no, Thunderhawk... It's always the same...

10-06-2005, 06:14 AM	#1
bthomasprime New Member Member since:Oct 2005	Sony is brilliant Sony has done very well in countering HD-DVDs every move. It first started with the Blu-ray Disc's higher capacity dual-layered 50GB discs. Next Sony acquired MGM Studios and together with Sony pictures made them exclusive on the Blu-ray format. Finally, Sony made Blu-ray disc drives one of the key technologies in the forthcoming Playstation 3. With every major studio having joined the BDA or in Warner Bros. and Universal's case soon to join, the format war will be over before Blu-ray even hits the market. I highly doubt that HD-DVD will even go to market, becuase it's chance of success will be minimal at best. It's just a fact that Sony took the greater risk and spent more money to deliver a superior technology and is inevitably going to reap the benefits. Hollywood and the consumer electronics industry are finally seeing Sony's way to the future and I couln't be happier.

10-07-2005, 06:34 PM	#8
Dr. Righteous New Member Member since:Oct 2005	Sony wins We all remember the VHS vs Beta battle. Even though Sony's Beta was a surperior format, VHS won because it was licensed to many electronics manufacturers while Sony tried to hold on to there patented formats. When they figured out that people was just not going the price of a Sony Beta, they released the format to a few manufactures but it was too late. VHS was the prefered format. The Beta was a "scaled down" version of the Sony Umatic 1" studio decks. A bedrock technology used by ALL television studios. SONY has really learned from past mistakes. It does not matter Which is better. What matters is targeting markets, and making the product easily accessable to everyone. This time they started YEARS in advance. The adverage person on the street has never heard of Blue-Ray. But they sure know what a DVD is.

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10-06-2005, 02:58 PM	#2
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	Agreed. Sony has certainly covered all their bases in this format war. We can only hope the finished product is everything it can be.

10-06-2005, 03:06 PM	#3
Alex Pallas Active Member Member since:Sep 2005 Location:The Belly Of The Beast (USA)	Sony's by far the most innovative electronics company, i remember reading an interview somewhere that by at least the PlayStation 9, Sony wanted to be able to link the machine directly to the brain, whats really cool is that they're serious about innovation adn excited about the future of technology, rather than profits

10-07-2005, 11:58 AM	#4
Chappers Junior Member Member since:Oct 2005	I think Sony has changed, as a company. They've matured. In some respects, some parts of the company still cut corners and don't really push the company ethos. But mainly, and especially of late, they have shown a degree of humility that is quite the rarity in such a large company. Their backing down over non-support of mp3 is just one such example. But to look at where they're going and what they've achieve, it really is very impressive. They've pushed hard with some distinct products which other electronics giants would never have had the gaul to go it alone on - such as the Playstation. There is a bright future for Sony I predict, as long as they continue to be prepared to compromise in the interests of the greater good, and they try to push the relevant sections of the company keep up with quality and innovation. Those who continue to knock Sony should take off their blinkers and wake up to a company that is a lot more human than a few others I can think. Sony's products are not perfect, and often far from it, but they seem to actually learn from their mistakes, and that makes them a respectable company in my book.

10-07-2005, 03:04 PM	#5
Knight-Errant Power Member Member since:Aug 2005 Location:Sheffield, UK	Sony's stand on the high quality of bluray has been very endearing to me. I will try to get a Sony player when they become available.

10-07-2005, 03:09 PM	#6
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	I also plan on making my first Blu-ray player a Sony. They've put forth all this effort into Blu-ray so they deserve my money. Besides I have no complaints about my Sony receiver and Sony DVD player.

10-07-2005, 03:19 PM	#7
Alex Pallas Active Member Member since:Sep 2005 Location:The Belly Of The Beast (USA)	still many people dont buy Sony products because they are more expensive than others, but the Sony stuff definately has a tendency to perform better and lasts longer; while everybody is stocking up on $400 Dell laptops i consider my Sony Vaio well worth the $2000

10-08-2005, 09:21 AM	#9
Waelan Member Member since:Aug 2005	I thought one of the huge issues with VHS and Beta was that VHS could hold more video length than Beta. People never hear of new formats at first thats what advertising is for.

10-16-2005, 04:26 AM	#10
Blackraven Expert Member Member since:Jan 2005 Location:Makati, Philippines	The way I see it, Sony is indeed making sure that the Blu-ray format will be come the Optical disc format for the upcoming generation (they along with everyone in BDA as well as other companies giving help/support for the success of Blu-ray). It will be HD-DVD in nearly everything (at least 90%) and you won't need to be a psychic/fortune teller just to know that. The only thing that worries me though are the ff: -Region coding (this indeed on Bullsh*t feature) -If Blu-ray devices (especially players) would be REQUIRED to be connected to the Internet (again, more BS because it is a hassle & not all areas have broadband internet) -AACS or the anti-piracy measure on Blu-ray will block all players from playing discs that are not within the region (even if those discs are original & legit copies) Aside from that, there are no other problems that I see with the new format.

10-16-2005, 07:24 PM	#13
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	Have thing's changed? The last I read Blu-ray's launch was planned for February with PS3 in May... HD-DVD's launch is expected in March.

10-16-2005, 09:06 PM	#14
Patrick Member Member since:Sep 2005	I think it was just an error, and he meant to say Blu-ray. I dont see Hd-dvd being in 10 % much less 90%. They dont even have that much support in electronic companies. I doubt Hd-dvd will even make it out. When will Warner officially announce support for Blu-ray?

10-17-2005, 07:09 AM	#16
Gorkab Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2004 Location:France 4K collection:145 Blu-ray collection:545 DVD collection:28 Blu-ray reviews:1	That's awesome, but will that be the same in Europe ?

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