Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) - Blu-ray Forum

pro-bassoonist · 10-24-2009, 07:43 AM

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Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire (1987) has received a preliminary release date for the UK market: February 22. Winner of the Best Director Award at the Cannes Film Festival in 1987.

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Melodious Thunk · 10-28-2009, 08:36 PM

I really hope the region B release lives up to the screenshots I've seen from the Criterion BD. I remember watching the film on my old tube and absolutely loving the beautiful cinematography, but I've never been able to watch it upscaled on my nice new HD TV because of all the distracting artefacts. I'd love to see it as intended.

Matt865 · 02-23-2010, 10:46 AM

Mine arrived today, it's a region free disc and looks very similar to the Criterion disc DVDBeaver reviewed, although the picture is slightly less bright.

Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/16e6f569311582
Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/41d74769311584

Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/13b79f69312347
Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e86b5669312348

Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/4aa42c69312905
Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/2816f769312910

Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e4bae769313729
Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/31dc8569313731

The audio/video bitrate is much high than the Criterion disc, probably because there are fewer extras.

#Darren · 03-27-2010, 06:05 PM

I'm confused, does this have a different commentary track to the Criterion version?

Also, is the "outtakes and deleted scenes" section exactly the same on both releases, or is it different?

pro-bassoonist · 03-27-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by iDarren

I'm confused, does this have a different commentary track to the Criterion version?

The commentary is indeed different.

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#Darren · 03-27-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

The commentary is indeed different.

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Thanks, in that case I will hang on to my Anchor Bay DVD.

Based on your description of the Criterion "outtakes and deleted scenes" extra it seems that that is different from the one on the Anchor Bay DVD, as on the Anchor Bay DVD Wenders talks constantly throughout. Perhaps the Axiom BD has the same one as the Anchor Bay DVD (just like it shares the Anchor Bay commentary)?

manicsounds · 03-28-2010, 11:55 AM

The Anchor Bay UK / MGM US / and Axiom UK seem to have the same Wim Wenders/Peter Falk commentary.

The Criterion one is culled from the same sessions, but the original producer of the commentary went back and re-edited some things into the new commentary. I can't exactly say what is different, but they do overlap.

#Darren · 10-30-2010, 05:16 PM

Disappointed to see that on the Axiom BD the Deleted Scenes with Commentary and the German Trailer were in "windowboxed widescreen".

On the old Anchor Bay DVD they were anamorphic and on the Criterion BD they are anamorphic.

BTW the review on this site is a bit confusing when comparing the Criterion to the Axiom - BOTH disks have the deleted scenes with commentary that was on the Anchor Bay DVD, but the Criterion BD also has "outtakes" which were not on the Anchor Bay disk and which are not on the Axiom BD.

nightcrawler · 10-30-2010, 05:36 PM

Not a big fan of this film. The first time I saw it was only about 5 years ago but I just couldn't get into it. On the other hand, I'm really hoping that another Wim Wenders film - PARIS, TEXAS - gets a UK release sometime soon...I love that film. The US release is region-locked

pro-bassoonist · 10-30-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nightcrawler

Not a big fan of this film. The first time I saw it was only about 5 years ago but I just couldn't get into it. On the other hand, I'm really hoping that another Wim Wenders film - PARIS, TEXAS - gets a UK release sometime soon...I love that film. The US release is region-locked

Why don't you take a look at the French release. I have to check, but I am fairly certain the initial info was that the French subtitles are not imposed.

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nightcrawler · 10-30-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Why don't you take a look at the French release. I have to check, but I am fairly certain the initial info was that the French subtitles are not imposed.

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Wow thanks for the info

Will have to try and find out if the french release has forced subs or not. Does anyone else know?

The Driver · 10-30-2010, 10:53 PM

Go multiregion and give your money to Criterion.

Their release is wonderful https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Paris...y/7732/#Review

Get the best for your money.

KrugerIndustrial · 07-07-2011, 11:47 AM

Disappointed that Axiom decided to only subtitle when English is not spoken. There's not much english in this film but e.g. late Peter Falk mumbling something is not very easy to follow without subtitles. Little thing but makes a huge difference.

Hintermann · 11-12-2013, 07:59 AM

OK people, so what's the final verdict on Axion vs Criterion release for Wings of Desire? I do not have it yet in any form but consider it as one of those 'special' films to own. That being the case, I do not mind spending on the Criterion disc but the Axiom is now around third the price of the former.

Any advice on what I should do?

ycbbh · 11-12-2013, 08:47 AM

I have the Axiom release and I'm happy with it especially for £6. The Criterion is the better package but not hugely so and to me not worth an extra tenner.

amoergosum · 11-12-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nightcrawler

Wow thanks for the info

Will have to try and find out if the french release has forced subs or not. Does anyone else know?

There's also a DE release >>>

rapta · 11-12-2013, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hintermann

OK people, so what's the final verdict on Axion vs Criterion release for Wings of Desire? I do not have it yet in any form but consider it as one of those 'special' films to own. That being the case, I do not mind spending on the Criterion disc but the Axiom is now around third the price of the former.

Any advice on what I should do?

Get whichever's most convenient and cheap I guess? Unless you are obsessed with Criterion releases like many people are I'd recommend the Axiom version.

kashif · 11-12-2013, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hintermann

OK people, so what's the final verdict on Axion vs Criterion release for Wings of Desire? I do not have it yet in any form but consider it as one of those 'special' films to own. That being the case, I do not mind spending on the Criterion disc but the Axiom is now around third the price of the former.

Any advice on what I should do?

I have the UK release and it looks and sounds great plus it has a nice booklet too and the case is thinner. Also its very cheap as compare to the Criterion BD. Both look like the same in quality but Criterion has more Extras so if you can compromise on a little more extras then Axiom is great and of course very cheap. I am more than happy to have the Axiom release.

gouryella · 07-17-2017, 04:16 PM

Is the Axiom release oop now? Was wondering what my chances are of finding this in the HMV 5 for £30 instore.

jimidini · 07-17-2017, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gouryella

Is the Axiom release oop now? Was wondering what my chances are of finding this in the HMV 5 for £30 instore.

Just grab it from base.com for 7.19 pounds.
https://www.base.com/buy/product/win...dgc-axm608.htm

Doesn't look OOP to me btw.

10-24-2009, 07:43 AM	#1
pro-bassoonist Blu-ray reviewer Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:X Home Theater Gallery:47 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 31 Trading Score:23	Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders) Wings of Desire Blu-ray Wings of Desire 4K Blu-ray Steelbook Wings of Desire Blu-ray Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire (1987) has received a preliminary release date for the UK market: February 22. Winner of the Best Director Award at the Cannes Film Festival in 1987. Pro-B Last edited by Deciazulado; 01-28-2023 at 03:43 PM.

02-23-2010, 10:46 AM	#3
Matt865 Active Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:UK 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:605	Mine arrived today, it's a region free disc and looks very similar to the Criterion disc DVDBeaver reviewed, although the picture is slightly less bright. Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/16e6f569311582 Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/41d74769311584 Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/13b79f69312347 Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e86b5669312348 Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/4aa42c69312905 Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/2816f769312910 Criterion: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e4bae769313729 Axiom: http://www.imagebam.com/image/31dc8569313731 The audio/video bitrate is much high than the Criterion disc, probably because there are fewer extras. Last edited by Matt865; 02-23-2010 at 12:13 PM.

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10-28-2009, 08:36 PM	#2
Melodious Thunk Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Oxfordshire 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:558 Blu-ray reviews:1	I really hope the region B release lives up to the screenshots I've seen from the Criterion BD. I remember watching the film on my old tube and absolutely loving the beautiful cinematography, but I've never been able to watch it upscaled on my nice new HD TV because of all the distracting artefacts. I'd love to see it as intended.

03-27-2010, 06:05 PM	#4
#Darren Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:1471 Blu-ray reviews: 62	I'm confused, does this have a different commentary track to the Criterion version? Also, is the "outtakes and deleted scenes" section exactly the same on both releases, or is it different?

03-28-2010, 11:55 AM	#7
manicsounds Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:4991 Blu-ray reviews: 99	The Anchor Bay UK / MGM US / and Axiom UK seem to have the same Wim Wenders/Peter Falk commentary. The Criterion one is culled from the same sessions, but the original producer of the commentary went back and re-edited some things into the new commentary. I can't exactly say what is different, but they do overlap.

10-30-2010, 05:16 PM	#8
#Darren Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:1471 Blu-ray reviews: 62	Disappointed to see that on the Axiom BD the Deleted Scenes with Commentary and the German Trailer were in "windowboxed widescreen". On the old Anchor Bay DVD they were anamorphic and on the Criterion BD they are anamorphic. BTW the review on this site is a bit confusing when comparing the Criterion to the Axiom - BOTH disks have the deleted scenes with commentary that was on the Anchor Bay DVD, but the Criterion BD also has "outtakes" which were not on the Anchor Bay disk and which are not on the Axiom BD.

10-30-2010, 05:36 PM	#9
nightcrawler Special Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:London, UK	Not a big fan of this film. The first time I saw it was only about 5 years ago but I just couldn't get into it. On the other hand, I'm really hoping that another Wim Wenders film - PARIS, TEXAS - gets a UK release sometime soon...I love that film. The US release is region-locked

10-30-2010, 10:53 PM	#12
The Driver Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Location:UK Trading Score:1	Go multiregion and give your money to Criterion. Their release is wonderful https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Paris...y/7732/#Review Get the best for your money.

07-07-2011, 11:47 AM	#13
KrugerIndustrial Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 4K collection:200 Blu-ray collection:1361 DVD collection:34 Trading Score:16	Disappointed that Axiom decided to only subtitle when English is not spoken. There's not much english in this film but e.g. late Peter Falk mumbling something is not very easy to follow without subtitles. Little thing but makes a huge difference.

11-12-2013, 07:59 AM	#14
Hintermann Special Member Member since:Sep 2010 Location:Bexhill on Sea, UK Blu-ray reviews:2	OK people, so what's the final verdict on Axion vs Criterion release for Wings of Desire? I do not have it yet in any form but consider it as one of those 'special' films to own. That being the case, I do not mind spending on the Criterion disc but the Axiom is now around third the price of the former. Any advice on what I should do?

11-12-2013, 08:47 AM	#15
ycbbh Active Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The North, England Blu-ray collection:227 Blu-ray reviews:1	I have the Axiom release and I'm happy with it especially for £6. The Criterion is the better package but not hugely so and to me not worth an extra tenner.

07-17-2017, 04:16 PM	#19
gouryella Special Member Member since:Jul 2015 Location:UK Trading Score:2	Is the Axiom release oop now? Was wondering what my chances are of finding this in the HMV 5 for £30 instore.

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