Partner BD Review

[lgans316]

Besides the saturated colors, the caps look dodgy to my eyes. Looks borderline HD.

[vveksuvarna]

Partner arrives from Eros Entertainment on a really crisp, colorful looking AVC encoded Blu-ray.........I was really blown away by the awesomely saturated colors ......Also there's some very brief shimmer in the brightly beaded costumes

and this got 4.5 stars ?

i find it hard to take this man seriously.

[kailashu]

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

and this got 4.5 stars ?

i find it hard to take this man seriously.

+1. HAHAHHAHA. Sivaji gets 4 stars and Partner gets 4.5. Beats me

[vveksuvarna]

anyone who wonders what the fuss is all about regarding lossless audio should simply toggle between these two mixes to hear for themselves. While the Dolby Digital 5.1 in and of itself is perfectly fine, switching to the DTS-HD MA 5.1 is like peeling a level of compression away from the soundtrack, revealing whole new layers of frequencies, especially on the extreme low and high ends.

i never realised how dts hd could possibly be better than compressed dd

The "thunk thunk" of bass is omnipresent

really the bass sounds like a thunk ?

notably a couple of sequences taking place in a lot of traffic and confusion, where the listener is transported to a busy cityscape soundfield

i am now certain that this guy is a brand new HT owner, and has never experienced a quality hd soundtrack on a film.

besides, i looked into his records of all the films he has reviewed...apart from bulletproof monk & chicago...the rest are baragain bin titles.

take note : he has previously given a 4.5 to a 1080i transfer on a 25gb disc.

i am sorry, but this reviewer has embarrassingly low standards of what blurays are capable of.

[Opips2]

I guess... blu-ray.com offical review is wrong!! this made a mistake judge.
not 4.5 star on picture quality. I think 4.0 star

[Opips2]

I'll pick "Partner" blu-ray for later. blu-ray.com offical give 4.5 stars on picture quality.

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by xxxxxx

Hello everyone i bought partner movie on blu ray from WAL MART and i have 52 " lcd tv i tell you , it was worst pq ive ever seen. Eros has insulted the standard of blu ray disc. Do not buy this. It is waste of money instead you can buy rab ne bana di jodi because other reviewers have posted the screenshots and reviews.

Funny, as in your user review from December 6th, you gave the PQ 5/5. And i quote your review:

Great movie with excellent pq quality and audio quality.

Originally Posted by Opips2

I'll pick "Partner" blu-ray for later. blu-ray.com offical give 4.5 stars on picture quality.

They sure did. It makes me question a lot of things....

[kailashu]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

Funny, as in your user review from December 6th, you gave the PQ 5/5. And i quote your review:



They sure did. It makes me question a lot of things....

Exactly my point. This is how it goes for xxxxxx: A hindi BD in walmart, lets give it 5 stars. xxxxxx has a consistent rating of 5 stars for all the BD's he/she reviews. Excellento Mundo

[pro-bassoonist]

Good evening,

I did not produce the review that is being discussed in this thread, but I would like to point out a couple of things:

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

besides, i looked into his records of all the films he has reviewed...apart from bulletproof monk & chicago...the rest are baragain bin titles.

On the contrary, my colleague reviews primarily opera/ballet/classic music releases, and not a single one of them qualifies as "Bargain Bin".

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

take note : he has previously given a 4.5 to a 1080i transfer on a 25gb disc.

So have I. Since there are plenty of very high quality "live" transfers that are encoded in 1080i/60, am I to assume that you do not believe that a 1080i native transfer placed on a 25gb disc could look solid? If yes, then you need to do some research and educate yourself before you criticize my colleague.

Finally, perhaps you are unaware, but in Europe there is also a lot of native product that is encoded in 1080i/25 (as well as 576i/25) -- 1080i/50. And a few European producers have released 1080i/50 (1080/50i as it is labeled in the U.S.) product that is of exceptionally high quality.

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

i am sorry, but this reviewer has embarrassingly low standards of what blurays are capable of.

Actually, I would like to kindly suggest that you do a bit of reading and educate yourself when it comes to standards/encodes.

Originally Posted by lgans316

Besides the saturated colors, the caps look dodgy to my eyes. Looks borderline HD.

Elsewhere, you also speculated that Sony Pictures' Region-A release of Luc Besson's Leon looks like an upconvert.

Pro-B

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

and this got 4.5 stars ?

i find it hard to take this man seriously.

+ 1

Personally I found the Partner BD to be no better than a 3.0 - 3.5 at best for video atleast. Why are Bollywood BDs rated on a lower scale compared to Hollywood BDs? Shouldn't a 5.0 mean the same thing when applied to Bollywood BDs?

[vveksuvarna]

am I to assume that you do not believe that a 1080i native transfer placed on a 25gb disc could look solid? If yes, then you need to do some research and educate yourself before you criticize my colleague.

given the shortcomings of interlaced video & and the mass availability of hardware that supports progressive playback.

after this being served as a given fact, if the producers still choose to record & encode interlaced material. i personally would not rate 5 stars.

and its not like its 1985, and they are limited to crt's to playback their material.

keeping in mind, blurays are meant to be seen on HDTVs, whats the point encoding interlaced material.

and NO,i am not ignorant to the fact that interlaced video can look stunning, when encoded right.

but what i am against is, bluray serves as a platform for pure high bitrate 1080p. i dont think 1080i does justice to the medium.

Finally, perhaps you are unaware, but in Europe there is also a lot of native product that is encoded in 1080i/25 (as well as 576i/25) -- 1080i/50. And a few European producers have released 1080i/50 (1080/50i as it is labeled in the U.S.) product that is of exceptionally high quality.

sorry to dissapoint you, but i am well versed with the facts you have tried to enlighten me with.

not trying to pick a fight here, but perhaps, you should not underestimate a persons knowledge before knowing him. prejudice often leads to a mistaken judgement.

i know you are more qualified than i am, i am not arguing on that.

but if you still think, i am unreasonable, i request you to borrow the disc from your colleague & take a look at the film yourself.

this disc has been out for a while, and buyers have not been happy with it, and i doubt you will find someone (not affiliated with eros) on this forum, who will agree to the official bluray.com review.

[pro-bassoonist]

Good evening,

I would like to respond one more time to what you have written, but I really do not wish to further debate the subject.

The reason I responded in this thread in the first place was because I did not think that Mr. Kauffman's review deserved the sarcastic comments you used in your post.

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

given the shortcomings of interlaced video & and the mass availability of hardware that supports progressive playback.

after this being served as a given fact, if the producers still choose to record & encode interlaced material. i personally would not rate 5 stars.

To a certain extent I agree with you, but am unsure how this observation defends what your wrote earlier - Mr. Kauffman did not award the video quality 5 stars.

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

and its not like its 1985, and they are limited to crt's to playback their material.

keeping in mind, blurays are meant to be seen on HDTVs, whats the point encoding interlaced material.

I am unsure I could fully agree with you. There is a very large percentage of people in the U.S. that use digital projectors.

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

and NO,i am not ignorant to the fact that interlaced video can look stunning, when encoded right.

but what i am against is, bluray serves as a platform for pure high bitrate 1080p. i dont think 1080i does justice to the medium.

But this is only your opinion, and even though I respect it, I disagree with it. Once again, there is plenty of 1080i product that is of extremely high quality. You could certainly make a case that whenever possible it is best to opt for 1080p, but dismissing a product based purely on the fact that it is encoded in 1080i is, to say the least, a questionable practice.

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

not trying to pick a fight here, but perhaps, you should not underestimate a persons knowledge before knowing him. prejudice often leads to a mistaken judgement.

This is quite an ironic statement -- given how you addressed Mr. Kauffman earlier, and I quote:

Originally Posted by vveksuvarna

i am now certain that this guy is a brand new HT owner, and has never experienced a quality hd soundtrack on a film.

besides, i looked into his records of all the films he has reviewed...apart from bulletproof monk & chicago...the rest are baragain bin titles.

Look, all that I am trying to convey to you is this: We have different people discussing different reviews, news, releases, etc., in an intelligent manner in every other subsection of the site. Take a look at the Region-B subforums, the Spanish subforum, and the Region-A subforums. Then take a look at how most of the time discussions are handled here. Wouldn't you agree that it would be in the best interest of everyone visiting the Region-C subforum if people agreed and disagreed with each other in a civil manner, politely? Having the Region-C section look like a battlefield does not help anyone, and most definitely not us, the enthusiasts.

I know that you, and most of the other people who visit the Region-C subforum, also participate in discussions elsewhere on the forum. You see that there is a strong sense of community -- and we want to be a strong community. People welcome each other, help each other, become friends everywhere else on the site. We also have a number of insiders answering their questions. Wouldn't you agree that it would be great if people - and not only those who are knowledgeable about Indian cinema, but also those who aren't but are interested in learning about it - could come here and participate in the discussions? Wouldn't you agree that if we attracted Indian producers and content-owners to come here and interact directly with you, their customers, this would be beneficial for everyone?

Let's all try to be a little more civil and respectful!

Pro-B