why would anyone own or buy a 480p plasma?

[6thDeadlyVenom]

http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Samsung%...sqm5gCfo1Pj3UC

what's the advantage of it over crt? Don't crt's have progressive scan (480p) reoslutions with component for blue rays and dvd players as well? EVen old and cheap standard def tvs seem to have component inputs so what's the point of this esp since in standard def it probably would look a lot worse than crt (like for older gaming systems)?

[McGarnigal]

because its really old, its just some leftover one from an amazon marketplace seller. No ones going to buy it. With amazing panasonic 720p/1080p plasmas around $600- it almost seems unbelievable they were around $2000 less than 2 years ago.

[6thDeadlyVenom]

Originally Posted by McGarnigal

because its really old, its just some leftover one from an amazon marketplace seller. No ones going to buy it. With amazing panasonic 720p/1080p plasmas around $600- it almost seems unbelievable they were around $2000 less than 2 years ago.

why would anyone ever buy it though with crts being much better and cheaper? I mean even todays plasmas and lcds are inferior when it comes to gaming on systems like dreamcast and gamecube to sdtvs or crts even with vga and other cables or composite/480p.

[McGarnigal]

Because one of the largest crt screen options is/was a 36 inch, and can be about 200lbs and over 2 feet deep in the back.

[McGarnigal]

There are thousands and thousands of people with great brand new flat panels today whos tvs will go years or the tvs entre existence without having a single HD source hooked up to them... Some people love their new tv with regular sd cable tv and a dvd player with the crappy composite wires it comes with.

[McGarnigal]

Originally Posted by 6thDeadlyVenom

http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Samsung%...sqm5gCfo1Pj3UC

what's the advantage of it over crt? Don't crt's have progressive scan (480p) reoslutions with component for blue rays and dvd players as well? EVen old and cheap standard def tvs seem to have component inputs so what's the point of this esp since in standard def it probably would look a lot worse than crt (like for older gaming systems)?

Almost every CRT tv was 480i- in later years there were 1080i HD crts and 480p EDtvs (enhanced definition)- component inputs and hd component inputs were kind usually only on tvs that offered alot in the way of inputs. Otherwise most tvs started off with only an antenna/rf input, then composite (white and yellow, then red, white, and yellow, then s-video, then component, then hd component, then DVI, HDMI...

[6thDeadlyVenom]

but when I hooked up my dreamcast with the vga converter it looks like crap with no anti aliasing and jaggies compared to when it was hooked up to my hd ctr which was bigger than 36 inch btw. ANd it looks even worse in composite, and gamecube is unplayable compared to how it was with ctr. Why would anyone have bought one of these in those systems eras? And standard dvds also look worse not sure about standard def cable though. Plus isnt the point of upgrading to a hdtv blue ray, there would be no advantage of blue ray on such a crappy setup.

[McGarnigal]

HDTVs are higher resolution- they show more error/bad in the picture because theyre more detailed. Thats the catch with upgrading, your new stuff will look amazing with extra detail all tho there is some sacrifice to older material, although upconverting dvd players and ur set upscaling to native resolution can help alot in many cases.

[My_Two_Cents]

I bought my first plasma back in 2003, and it was a Pany 480p set. I'll put the picture from that set up against my 768p Pany plasma any day. It's now my bedroom set, and still going strong. That being said, no one in thier right mind would purchase a 480p plasma today for that price, as you can get a 1080p set cheaper.

Not sure what you are trying to say or imply, but nothing EVER looked 'crappy' on my set, and it blew-away the picture on my 'crappy' 36" Mitsubishi CRT I had at the time. Resolution is not the be-all of picture quality unless you are talking about 480i CRT displays, which look horrible regardless of what you feed them.

Edit: And it's BLU RAY

[6thDeadlyVenom]

but than why does vga mode with this box which the reviewers claim is the best way of playing dreamcast games have no anti aliasing in the 640x480 res and looks like crap when compared to the smooth edged aa enhanced dreamcast hookup to composite sd tvs?:
http://www.amazon.com/Sega-Dreamcast...2020930&sr=8-1

at leas ton my samsung plasma which also happens to have almost no scalers for composite setups btw in terms of gaming. Its so washed out and horrible looking but most ppl say the same inr egards to thos ehookups on hdtvs. Look at how much gamecube 480p hookups go for.

[HiDefRev]

Of course NO ONE in their right mind would pay THAT much money for LAST DECADE'S technology. But then, there are plenty of fools in this world who buy BEFORE checking things out and doing their research. Just check all of the HDTV bulletin boards this week....... * *

[Semp1]

480p uses component not composite. You can't do progressive scan without component.

[6thDeadlyVenom]

but in terms of gaming systems made for composite with component option in mind ala gamecube/dreamcast to those who upgraded at the time the tech was new, it seems the standard def crts or hd crts were a lot better, same for dvds. They just converted and upscaled better, and had the best of both worlds for hd and standard.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by 6thDeadlyVenom

but in terms of gaming systems made for composite with component option in mind ala gamecube/dreamcast to those who upgraded at the time the tech was new, it seems the standard def crts or hd crts were a lot better, same for dvds. They just converted and upscaled better, and had the best of both worlds for hd and standard.

Still don't understand your statement. There is no upscaling involved when sending a 480i signal to an SD CRT or a 480p plasma (signal would be deinterlaced only). Now if you are talking about the early HD CTRs, then I would agree that they were some of the best displays out there. Too bad you can only make them so big before they became too unwieldly.

[RockChalk]

Originally Posted by 6thDeadlyVenom

but when I hooked up my dreamcast with the vga converter it looks like crap with no anti aliasing and jaggies compared to when it was hooked up to my hd ctr which was bigger than 36 inch btw. ANd it looks even worse in composite, and gamecube is unplayable compared to how it was with ctr. Why would anyone have bought one of these in those systems eras? And standard dvds also look worse not sure about standard def cable though. Plus isnt the point of upgrading to a hdtv blue ray, there would be no advantage of blue ray on such a crappy setup.

Blu-ray, there I fixed it

[jerwin]

"looks like crap", besides bringing a certain undesirable level of refinement to the forum, is very imprecise. How does it look like crap? Are the color spaces incorrect? Is the gamma off? Are the sharpening filters producing halos? Is deinterlacing problematic? Is there combing? Noise in the signal?
Is your monitor properly calibrated?

[jibucha]

Hello

While purchasing, especially for any unreasonable price, would seem on the surface problematic; there are significant reasons for having a 480P Plasma Flat Panel.

The catch? Standard Definition Programming [SDTV], which is either 480i or 480p, would be at the native resolution of the display, thus entirely eliminating signal processing, which by itself is a major gain in picture quality.

If reviews are considered, of standard definition programming, on a HDTV; picture quality is often sub-standard. It simply has to do with the commitment of the manufacturer to a quality picture and consequently the cost of the display; it has to do with the video processing quality for the different video resolutions and a fixed pixel display.

It is for this reason, that our current quest for a high quality display, is seriously dependent on how well it can display content from either DVD or broadcast. So much content is always going to be standard definition, which properly displayed, as our current CRT HDTV Displays do so well as to be, is quite spectular.

While this may surprise many; it seriously surprised us since our quest for possibly going to flat panels for television. In all of my years of appreciation of HDTV, this was never a consideration, until now.

Having CRT's entirely, which are highly adept naturally, at displaying any resolution at it's original best; realization of the importance of scaling quality on a fixed pixel flat panel was not fully realized until now, as we are more interested in the possibility of flat panels.

What a surprise!

So; while acquiring a 480P plasma display can seem questionable; for watching standard definition content, whatever it's origin, can easily be displayed far better than on a 1080p plasma display.

Thank You