Ultimate RPG POLL - 4 Categories

[BlackMamba]

Just a fun poll to do if you're bored... Please use the categories below.

I. My Top RPGs of All-Time
II. Most Influential RPGs of All-Time
III. RPGs that need a Next-Gen Sequel
IV. My Most Anticipated RPGs

[BlackMamba]

I. My Top RPGs of All-Time - Tough list... if I felt there was no significant quality difference between games in a series I grouped them together.
25. Shadow Hearts (PS)
24. Grandia (Multi)
23. Kingdom Hearts (PS) - NOTE: Never bought KH2 unfortunatly
22. Persona 1-4 (PS, PS2)
21. Wild Arms (PS)
20. Super Mario RPG (SNES)
19. Shin Megai Tensai: Nocturne (PS)
18. Lunar: Silver Star Story (Multi)
17. Shining the Holy Ark (Saturn)
16. Dragon Warrior 1-5 (NES)
15. Secret of Evermore (SNES)
14. Dragon's Quest 8 (PS2)
13. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (SNES)
12. Alundra (PS)
11. Dragon Force (Saturn)
10. Final Fantasy Tactics (PS)
9. Suikoden 2 (PS)
8. Suikoden 1 (PS)
7. Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals (SNES)
6. Final Fantasy 4 (SNES)
5. The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past (SNES)
4. Secret of Mana (SNES)
3. Final Fantasy 6 (SNES)
2. Xenogears (PS)
1. Chrono Trigger (SNES)

II. Most Influential RPGs of All-Time
10. Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion (Multi)
9. Chrono Trigger (SNES)
8. Final Fantasy 6 (SNES)
7. Baldur's Gate 2 (PC)
6. Zelda 64 (N64)
5. The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past (SNES)
4. The Legend of Zelda (NES)
3. Diablo (PC)
2. Final Fantasy 7 (PS)
1. Dragon Warrior 1-6 (NES, SNES)

III. RPGs that need a Next-Gen Sequel
5. Kingdom Hearts
4. Rogue Galaxy
3. Makai Kingdom
2. Dragon's Quest (not 9 or Wii Spin-offs)
1. Persona

IV. My Most Anticipated RPGs
5. Final Fantasy 13 (Multi)
4. White Knight Chronicles (PS3)
3. Diablo 3 (PC)
2. Mass Effect 2 (360)
1. Lunar: Silver Star Story Harmony (PSP)

[Bageara]

Demons Souls not deserve a mention anywhere?

[thePhoenix]

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PS3)
Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1)
Final Fantasy (NES)
Final Fantasy II & III (SNES)
Suikoden (PS1)

[BlackMamba]

Originally Posted by Bageara

Demons Souls not deserve a mention anywhere?

It's looking to break my top 25. I can't give it a spot just yet as I'm only 6 hours in!

Originally Posted by thePhoenix

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PS3)
Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1)
Final Fantasy (NES)
Final Fantasy II & III (SNES)
Suikoden (PS1)

Excellent short list!

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Final Fantasy I, II, III, VII, X
3. Grandia III
4. Secret of Evermore
5. Secret of Mana

All game titles applies to all 4 categories.

[Elandyll]

I. My Top RPGs of All-Time
1. Baldur's Gate 2 + Throne of Bhaal (PC)
2. Lands of Lore (PC)
3. Final Fantasy VII (PS)
4. Suikoden (PS)
5. Neverwinter Nights

P.S: still at the beginning of Dragon Age Origins, which is excellent at the moment and might end up in the list instead of NWN.

II. Most Influential RPGs of All-Time
1. Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 (PC)
2. Ultima (series - PC)
3. Dungeon Master (Amiga) - Neverwinter Nights (PC) Tied
4. Lands of Lore (PC) & Eye of the Beholder (PC) Tied
5. Final Fantasy VII (PS) - Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time (N64 - but is it even remotely a RPG? It was awesome though), Tied

III. RPGs that need a Next-Gen Sequel
1. Suikoden
2. Kingdom Hearts
3. Lands of Lore
4. Ultima
5. Final Fantasy VII


IV. My Most Anticipated RPGs
1. White Knight Chronicles (PS3)
2. FF XIII (PS3)
3. Star Ocean 4 (PS3)
4. Mass Effect 2 (PC)
5. Diablo 3 (PC - really more a dungeon crawler/ action-hack'n slash rather than RPG, but why not)

[Bageara]

Originally Posted by BlackMamba

It's looking to break my top 25. I can't give it a spot just yet as I'm only 6 hours in!

I only say that as im a RPG noob really but i have totally enjoyed Demons Souls

My RPG experience only stretchs as far as

Baldurs Gate 1 & 2
Oblivion Elder scrolls
Fallout 3
Demons Souls

not much a list

always played shooters mostly

but im looking forward to

White Knight Chronicles

[Marine Mike]

In no particular order:

1. Final Fantasy II, VII, VIII, X
2. Star Ocean: Second Story
3. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Link to the Past
4. The Legend of Dragoon
5. Illusion of Gaia
6. Fallout 3
7. Demon's Souls
8. Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

[jeabombers]

Disclaimer: I love stories in RPG beyond anything else, and I'm actually FOND of "cliche" RPG story lines.
Top:
10. Dragon Quest 5 (first of it's kind in epic, branching story-telling)
9. Disgaea (only the first has a truly humorous and re-playable story)
8. Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core
7. Valkyria Chronicles
6. Lufia 1+2
5. Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga (1+2)
4. Final Fantasy Tactics
3. Chrono Cross
2. Final Fantasy X
1. Xenosaga Trilogy (Albedo is the best "bad guy" ever created)

Honorable mention: Chrono Trigger, Breath of Fire games 1+2 (all I've played), Suikoden 4+5 (haven't played the others), Lunar Silver Star Story Complete, Dragon Warrior 7, Final Fantasy 8, Dark Cloud 1+2, Star Ocean 3, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Spectral Souls.

Influential:
Final Fantasy XIII needs to be on the list, though I like BlackMamba's. I mean, look at how many PS3's the game alone has managed to sell in Japan so far. It will be interesting to see what the numbers are here in the states between the 360 and PS3 are.

Sequel-worthy:
Kingdom Hearts already has a third title "in the works" but unannounced officially.
Dragon Quest
Lufia (if you could incorporate the puzzles into a 3d area, or even make a high-def 2d/overhead, it would be awesome)
Xenosaga Episodes 4-6 (it was a shame to tease us with the idea and leave the third game hanging the way it is)
Dark Cloud 3
Final Fantasy 7 (a remake would be fine.)
Elder Scrolls 5
Spectral Souls-type game (heard the 360 version was a total travesty.)

Most Anticipated:
White Knight Chronicles
Finaly Fantasy XIII
La Pucelle Tactics PSP
Valkyria Chronicles 2 (PSP)
And, since this is the first I've heard of it, Lunar PSP (providing it has the same stellar voice acting as the others.)

[SoCalTiger]

Only one person mentioned Ultima!?!? This game pretty much CREATED the western style RPG genre as far as I am concerned.

As far as modern games are concerned Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls/Oblivion are the only recent ones I really like. I strongly dislike JRPGs unfortunately.

[BlackMamba]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Final Fantasy I, II, III, VII, X
3. Grandia III
4. Secret of Evermore
5. Secret of Mana

All game titles applies to all 4 categories.

Nice list. Totally forgot about Grandia. Never played 3, but the first was epic!

Originally Posted by Elandyll

II. Most Influential RPGs of All-Time
2. Ultima (series - PC)

Totally forgot about Ultima too. Never got into it as much as others, but still solid.

Originally Posted by Bageara

I only say that as im a RPG noob really but i have totally enjoyed Demons Souls. My RPG experience only stretchs as far as

Baldurs Gate 1 & 2
Oblivion Elder scrolls
Fallout 3
Demons Souls

not much a list Always played shooters mostly but im looking forward to White Knight Chronicles

Still, not a bad few games to have under your belt! WKC should be awesome because it's a Level 5 product, but the mixed reviews have me worried. Even Rogue Galaxy (which I thought was pretty awesome) didn't have quite this amount of variance in review scores.

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

5. Illusion of Gaia

Another goodie - wish I would have spent more time with the game. This was one of the ones I rented as opposed to bought (surprising considering how good it was and how I practically own every RPG for the SNES).

Originally Posted by jeabombers

Disclaimer: I love stories in RPG beyond anything else, and I'm actually FOND of "cliche" RPG story lines.

Honorable mention: Suikoden 4+5 (haven't played the others)

Influential:
Final Fantasy XIII needs to be on the list, though I like BlackMamba's. I mean, look at how many PS3's the game alone has managed to sell in Japan so far. It will be interesting to see what the numbers are here in the states between the 360 and PS3 are.

Sequel-worthy:
Lufia (if you could incorporate the puzzles into a 3d area, or even make a high-def 2d/overhead, it would be awesome)

Most Anticipated:
And, since this is the first I've heard of it, Lunar PSP (providing it has the same stellar voice acting as the others.)

I'm actually somewhat fond of cliche storylines although these days its more for nostalgia than anything else. DQ8 for example brought me back to JRPGs after I had my fill.

Never played Suikoden 4 because I was sorta disappointed with 3, but 5 was a throwback to the Suikodens of old (1, 2). Good game - probably an 8/10 in my book.

I think FFX probably deserves more influential even more than FFXIII if only because it moved a lot more PS2s than FFXIII can hope to do (also, it doesn't help now that it's multi-console).

A Lufia sequel would be epic (I know there's a Lufia 1 remake for the DS, but I want to go forward, not backwards! At least make a high-res 2D remake for PSP or something)

check out the pics for the new Lunar (PSP) jeabombers - looks better than the original IMO! XSeed is the developer and I think they've done an excellent job (first of all sticking with 2D) upgrading the visual look of the game.

Originally Posted by funsocaltiger

Only one person mentioned Ultima!?!? This game pretty much CREATED the western style RPG genre as far as I am concerned.

Yeah, it totally slipped my mind. Back then I wasn't huge into WRPGs but I did play a couple Ultimas and enjoyed them.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Originally Posted by funsocaltiger

Only one person mentioned Ultima!?!? This game pretty much CREATED the western style RPG genre as far as I am concerned.

As far as modern games are concerned Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls/Oblivion are the only recent ones I really like. I strongly dislike JRPGs unfortunately.

I know Ultima. It was the most damaging spell in FFIII

[Monkey]

Zelda
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Zelda: A link to the Past
Secret of Mana
Baulders Gate (PS2, can't remember the exact name of it)
Phantasy Star II (odd since now I can't stand RPG's now that don't have actual gameplay but I played this one to the end)

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The more videos I watch of Demon Soul's the more I want to pick it up.

[jeabombers]

Originally Posted by funsocaltiger

Only one person mentioned Ultima!?!? This game pretty much CREATED the western style RPG genre as far as I am concerned.

As far as modern games are concerned Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls/Oblivion are the only recent ones I really like. I strongly dislike JRPGs unfortunately.

I thought about mentioning Ultima, but the NES version that I played wasn't all that fun (or, rather, there was no actual "hey, go here" information.) The king at the beginning of the game tells you to a cave and retrieve something, but I'd go there and get slaughtered by "The King". Maybe I was just doing something wrong? It was fun to do everything else, granted, but no matter how high of a level I was at, I couldn't "find" any item in that cave and got slaughtered by the king....

[StereoMike]

I. Earth Bound
II. Dragon Warrior
III. Earth Bound

[Sarge]

Althought dated now, I liked the old Might & Magic series on the PC for it's turn-based combat. Also had the bank concept where you would actually earn interest on your gold.

[BlackMamba]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

I know Ultima. It was the most damaging spell in FFIII

lol, true. Such an iconic spell. FF3 (6)'s Meteo.

Originally Posted by jeabombers

I thought about mentioning Ultima, but the NES version that I played wasn't all that fun (or, rather, there was no actual "hey, go here" information.) The king at the beginning of the game tells you to a cave and retrieve something, but I'd go there and get slaughtered by "The King". Maybe I was just doing something wrong? It was fun to do everything else, granted, but no matter how high of a level I was at, I couldn't "find" any item in that cave and got slaughtered by the king....

I vaguely remember an NES version, but from what I can recollect it was different from its PC counterparts (maybe I'm wrong)

Originally Posted by Monkey

Phantasy Star II (odd since now I can't stand RPG's now that don't have actual gameplay but I played this one to the end)

The more videos I watch of Demon Soul's the more I want to pick it up.

Phantasy Star was a pretty good series. I admit I didn't play enough of the games to make an accurate judgment to its quality, but they seem to be appreciated by RPG enthusiasts.

Definitely pick up Demon's Souls - great game (so far)

Originally Posted by Stereomike

I. Earth Bound

Another game I wish I put more time into...

Originally Posted by Sarge

Althought dated now, I liked the old Might & Magic series on the PC for it's turn-based combat. Also had the bank concept where you would actually earn interest on your gold.

Can't say I remember a thing from the old Might & Magic games, but I was probably too young at the time to comprehend such complex concepts (interest?!)

[Harpua]

Favorite and most influential:
Ultima VII, Ultima Underworld, Eye of the Beholder, & Baldurs Gate 1/2

Those got me into RPG's, and for the most part ended my run with them. I really enjoyed KOTOR for the Xbox, and I believe it was called Shining in the Darkness for Sega Genesis, but beyond those, haven't found one that has sucked me on the consoles like the old PC games.

Oblivion/Fallout were fun, but never really sucked me in enough to complete them. I just picked up Dragon's Age and hoping that keeps me busy for the winter.

I do love Demon Soul's, but find it tough to consider them in the same category. More of an action game with RPG elements.

[Monkey]

Phantasy Star was a pretty good series. I admit I didn't play enough of the games to make an accurate judgment to its quality, but they seem to be appreciated by RPG enthusiasts.

Definitely pick up Demon's Souls - great game (so far)

I probably will after it dies down in price or I can trade something older I haven't been playing. I rarely have time to game, that's another problem and Demon Souls sounds like it takes quite a bit of dedication.