So anyone think it's still 'too early' to buy into Blu-ray? - Blu-ray Forum

phatrat1982 · 02-07-2010, 02:32 PM

I have been talking to some people I know any they keep telling me they want Blu Ray but it's still too early for them. I got to thinking about that and at first your natural reply is well there are already plenty of movies out and plenty coming all the time, but I actually gave 2 people who do look at the releases all the time and continue to say they still don't see enough they would personally be interested in to make the plunge, yet.

I even bought a Blu Ray player for one of these people, my sister, for Christmas, and she has yet to buy a single Blu Ray because she swears either their just aren't enough movies that interest her, or the ones that do are still over priced. I asked her to make a list of all the movies already on Blu ray she would buy and she said that would take too much time, since she is a stay at home mom I gave her that one. So I made up a list of movies I knew she would be interested in and it wasn't a very big list.

I did the same thing for my dad and for a friend of mine and my friend had the most movies on his list that were available but he is unemployed at the moment so he can't afford to go Blu Ray just yet, I offered to buy all of his DVD's and upgrade him to Blu Ray with the money, he was at first ok until we went through the list of DVD's he has and only found 10 that are on Blu Ray, out of 120 movies. And he has a ton of recent hits not all old shit either.

So I started making a list of all the movies that *I* want on Blu ray and comparing that to the list of available titles and even I found that my list does not match up even now. Sure I currently own 46 movies on Blu Ray and at last count there was something like 60 or so more available I am interested in but it got me thinking if someone like me, who believes in the format has trouble finding movies, maybe it really is too early for people who have different taste that the studios aren't meeting their needs.

My sister did indicate that she would for sure be buying 10 Things I hate About You on Blu Ray, just as soon as her local Walmart has a copy for her to buy.

csdot · 02-07-2010, 02:38 PM

you came to the wrong place to ask that question

Q? · 02-07-2010, 02:40 PM

No.
I'm betting 99% will say the same

Fighter · 02-07-2010, 02:40 PM

Not too early....I feel sorry for people still stuck in 'standard def. mode'

Well, no, I don't really feel sorry for them

kurtis21 · 02-07-2010, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csdot

you came to the wrong place to ask that question

+1000 Lol!!!

phatrat1982 · 02-07-2010, 02:42 PM

I don't mean the people here I mean for everyone else.

Q? · 02-07-2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatrat1982

I don't mean the people here I mean for everyone else.

And no.

If more people were could/willing to buy into the whole format we'd see more and more releases, new and old don't you think?

STuTTeRbox60 · 02-07-2010, 02:45 PM

time for everyone to join the fun

pokefan · 02-07-2010, 02:46 PM

Why does it matter if the movies they want are on BD yet or not? It's not like they won't still be able to watch DVD on their new set up, and everything coming out from this point on will be on BD most likely so regardless of how many titles are out that they want now they would still be getting an upgrade. Buy new titles on BD and enjoy the DVD's you have if that's how you feel. It's still better then NOT being able to enjoy the new format which is the case if they refuse to upgrade.

orion10 · 02-07-2010, 02:50 PM

That depends on what you're interested in and income.

To fully upgrade requires a big investment on TV and audio equipment. We're in a recession right now and money's tight.

Also it depends on what you're interested in, social situation, income and language variability.

Say you're interested in anime. You're mostly stuck with FUNi who needs help getting out proper BD releases. (That's basically saying stick to DVDs if they release an upscale to BD.) If you go on a search for better copies, then you're in R2 land and have to pay a lot for some titles with English subtitles if you don't understand Japanese if they were released in R2 with English subtitles. (Now this isn't a problem with the format. It's a reverse importation fear from R2.)

It won't be a problem for popular newer titles and some older live-action titles to find their way to BD imo.

If you got kids, you need the DVD more because kids damage things. You don't want them near you're expensive equipment.

So I think it's more social issues than format.

Clark Kent · 02-07-2010, 02:51 PM

It is time to get into Blu-ray simply because it is foolish to waste money on inferior dvds at this point. Why spend almost the same money for a format that has no resale value and that looks and sounds much worse?

steve_dave · 02-07-2010, 02:52 PM

The first rule of being a consumer:

1. Whenever you doubt your purchase. You made the wrong decision.

I have happily purchased Laserdiscs, VideoCDs, DVDs, HD DVDs, and Blu-ray Discs and never once regretted or contemplated my decisions.

I jumped into Laserdiscs in the early part of this century and while the format may be dying out and buying "new" copies was fast becoming an unobtainable goal; I never once regretted that decision.

I began buying VideoCDs in 1997 from Malaysia then my relatives in Thailand began supplying me with them beginning in 1999. I found two of the original Philips US releases in 1998. I never regretted this decision.

I got into DVD in mid 1999 when titles like Back to the Future, Indiana Jones Trilogy, and Star Wars (original trilogy) were not even available yet. Hell, Titanic was even out yet either. I happily stood in line for the midnight opening of my local Best Buy to pick up the original Star Wars trilogy.

As for that format no one wants to talk about... I went with that first in late 2007 when I had a 4x3 480i SD TV. I was enthusiastic that I immediately hooked it up to my XBox 360 and put in the copy of Hot Fuzz that bought two weeks prior to buying into it. I got 300 free with it at Best Buy and mailed away for my five free titles. Despite the naysayers, the downconverted image of an HD DVD on a 4x3 TV was crisper to me than the downconverted image of a DVD. Again, no regrets.

I finally went Blu when Best Buy offered a 40" 1080p Sony LCD in 2008 for $2000 with a PS3, a game, and a movie. I got Spider-Man 3 in the box with the PS3 and choose Surf''s Up. I'll never forget the first time I saw Surf's Up in glorious 1080/24f high-def. To say that it blows away the DVD was an understatement. I never ever regretted buying my Blu-ray Discs.

To see the titles being announced gives me the feeling of nostalgia when titles were first being announced on DVD. The feeling that maybe just maybe the Blu-ray Disc is going to be something special. I remember the announcement in 2000 that the Braveheart DVD would have Mel Gibson's first ever commentary. Flash foward to 2009 and the Blu-ray Disc offers new interviews with most of the main cast and historical informaiton.

As for that recession...we are at a point where Blu-ray Discs players are $78 - $100 at the Wal-mart and Targets and a basic 720p 32" LCD is around $300-$400. That's not a very big investment at least compared to few years ago.

Oh, and as for 10 Things I Hate About You at Wal-mart...

Buy online and have it shipped to the store for free.

howarmat · 02-07-2010, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

It is time to get into Blu-ray simply because it is foolish to waste money on inferior dvds at this point. Why spend almost the same money for a format that has no resale value and that looks and sounds much worse?

again it depends on their social status. the majority of people dont have a surround system so they see no benefit and there are still millions with no HDTV either. hell i just got my parents 1 for christmas and a new cheap DVD player. They hardly buy any dvds at all as it is and there was no point of getting a bluray player for them.

To the question form the OP...If they enjoy movies and have the proper setup already, then no they should get a player and be buying the bluray instead of the dvd. If they havent got HDTV and surround then chances are there is a good reason for that so its "too early" for them to make the change.

Stephan.klose · 02-07-2010, 03:19 PM

You are right, there are not a lot of great titles out yet. I have only about 420 Blu Rays so far and actually it's hard for me to find anything I wanna buy from the titles already released. So I concentrate on new releases and still manage to buy about 5 a week. In the US there are over 6000 Titles out yet.. And virtually every genre got a lot of great High Def Titles.. Well maybe if you are into Silent Movies or something.. But for "regular" Film enthusiasts there is no valid reason to not buy into blu ray. On the contrary. It's even realy stupid to still spend money on regular DVD's. Because if you are a serious movie fan you will convert sooner or later anyway.. And nowadays the 2 Discs DVD Editions are already more expensive than the Blu Ray releases.
So NO it's not still too early..

tiger roach · 02-07-2010, 03:21 PM

Anyone who has an HDTV of any size and appreciates movies needs to have Blu-ray.

I'm sorry Potter, that's my final word.

AKORIS · 02-07-2010, 03:23 PM

we recently added a 32" tv in another room with a blu ray player. I was astounded how good my dvd's looked on it since they look mediocre on my
52" Bravia.
It's not too early to get a blu ray player but I can see where some people would be happy with dvd if they have a smaller TV.

DJ Manyak · 02-07-2010, 03:24 PM

if you are buying blu ray players and no one is using them send one my way and give it a good home

kurtlingle · 02-07-2010, 03:36 PM

The way I look at it is why invest in an old, outdated technology that is inferior? Why spend $$$ on DVD? Makes no sense to spend $$$ on DVD (to me).

So my answer is - I try to convince everyone to save their hard earned $$$ and buy blu. Just go Netflix and buy what is available - and every few months they release great catalog titles so they will eventually come - and look so much better on Blu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatrat1982

I have been talking to some people I know any they keep telling me they want Blu Ray but it's still too early for them. I got to thinking about that and at first your natural reply is well there are already plenty of movies out and plenty coming all the time, but I actually gave 2 people who do look at the releases all the time and continue to say they still don't see enough they would personally be interested in to make the plunge, yet.

Shanester · 02-07-2010, 03:48 PM

Once you go Blu you can never go back to dvd and tell your freind he has no idea what he's missing

lhslancers · 02-07-2010, 04:13 PM

Not too early IMO and I am not near as fanatical as most who post here. I already had an HDTV and a PS3. Even the best DVD transfers cannot match up to Blu. Anything new that comes out and I want that has excellent PQ I will pick up on Blu. Anything I want that is older and is on DVD I will buy used as cheaply as I can. I am not going to double dip old BW movies however. HK cinema either.

02-07-2010, 02:32 PM	#1
phatrat1982 Banned Member since:Jul 2009 Location:I move around too much to keep this accurate Blu-ray reviews:1	So anyone think it's still 'too early' to buy into Blu-ray? I have been talking to some people I know any they keep telling me they want Blu Ray but it's still too early for them. I got to thinking about that and at first your natural reply is well there are already plenty of movies out and plenty coming all the time, but I actually gave 2 people who do look at the releases all the time and continue to say they still don't see enough they would personally be interested in to make the plunge, yet. I even bought a Blu Ray player for one of these people, my sister, for Christmas, and she has yet to buy a single Blu Ray because she swears either their just aren't enough movies that interest her, or the ones that do are still over priced. I asked her to make a list of all the movies already on Blu ray she would buy and she said that would take too much time, since she is a stay at home mom I gave her that one. So I made up a list of movies I knew she would be interested in and it wasn't a very big list. I did the same thing for my dad and for a friend of mine and my friend had the most movies on his list that were available but he is unemployed at the moment so he can't afford to go Blu Ray just yet, I offered to buy all of his DVD's and upgrade him to Blu Ray with the money, he was at first ok until we went through the list of DVD's he has and only found 10 that are on Blu Ray, out of 120 movies. And he has a ton of recent hits not all old shit either. So I started making a list of all the movies that I want on Blu ray and comparing that to the list of available titles and even I found that my list does not match up even now. Sure I currently own 46 movies on Blu Ray and at last count there was something like 60 or so more available I am interested in but it got me thinking if someone like me, who believes in the format has trouble finding movies, maybe it really is too early for people who have different taste that the studios aren't meeting their needs. My sister did indicate that she would for sure be buying 10 Things I hate About You on Blu Ray, just as soon as her local Walmart has a copy for her to buy.

02-07-2010, 02:50 PM	#10
orion10 Active Member Member since:Oct 2009 Blu-ray collection:74	That depends on what you're interested in and income. To fully upgrade requires a big investment on TV and audio equipment. We're in a recession right now and money's tight. Also it depends on what you're interested in, social situation, income and language variability. Say you're interested in anime. You're mostly stuck with FUNi who needs help getting out proper BD releases. (That's basically saying stick to DVDs if they release an upscale to BD.) If you go on a search for better copies, then you're in R2 land and have to pay a lot for some titles with English subtitles if you don't understand Japanese if they were released in R2 with English subtitles. (Now this isn't a problem with the format. It's a reverse importation fear from R2.) It won't be a problem for popular newer titles and some older live-action titles to find their way to BD imo. If you got kids, you need the DVD more because kids damage things. You don't want them near you're expensive equipment. So I think it's more social issues than format. Last edited by orion10; 02-07-2010 at 02:53 PM.

02-07-2010, 02:52 PM	#12
steve_dave Blu-ray Duke Member since:Nov 2008 Trading Score:21	The first rule of being a consumer: 1. Whenever you doubt your purchase. You made the wrong decision. I have happily purchased Laserdiscs, VideoCDs, DVDs, HD DVDs, and Blu-ray Discs and never once regretted or contemplated my decisions. I jumped into Laserdiscs in the early part of this century and while the format may be dying out and buying "new" copies was fast becoming an unobtainable goal; I never once regretted that decision. I began buying VideoCDs in 1997 from Malaysia then my relatives in Thailand began supplying me with them beginning in 1999. I found two of the original Philips US releases in 1998. I never regretted this decision. I got into DVD in mid 1999 when titles like Back to the Future, Indiana Jones Trilogy, and Star Wars (original trilogy) were not even available yet. Hell, Titanic was even out yet either. I happily stood in line for the midnight opening of my local Best Buy to pick up the original Star Wars trilogy. As for that format no one wants to talk about... I went with that first in late 2007 when I had a 4x3 480i SD TV. I was enthusiastic that I immediately hooked it up to my XBox 360 and put in the copy of Hot Fuzz that bought two weeks prior to buying into it. I got 300 free with it at Best Buy and mailed away for my five free titles. Despite the naysayers, the downconverted image of an HD DVD on a 4x3 TV was crisper to me than the downconverted image of a DVD. Again, no regrets. I finally went Blu when Best Buy offered a 40" 1080p Sony LCD in 2008 for $2000 with a PS3, a game, and a movie. I got Spider-Man 3 in the box with the PS3 and choose Surf''s Up. I'll never forget the first time I saw Surf's Up in glorious 1080/24f high-def. To say that it blows away the DVD was an understatement. I never ever regretted buying my Blu-ray Discs. To see the titles being announced gives me the feeling of nostalgia when titles were first being announced on DVD. The feeling that maybe just maybe the Blu-ray Disc is going to be something special. I remember the announcement in 2000 that the Braveheart DVD would have Mel Gibson's first ever commentary. Flash foward to 2009 and the Blu-ray Disc offers new interviews with most of the main cast and historical informaiton. As for that recession...we are at a point where Blu-ray Discs players are $78 - $100 at the Wal-mart and Targets and a basic 720p 32" LCD is around $300-$400. That's not a very big investment at least compared to few years ago. Oh, and as for 10 Things I Hate About You at Wal-mart... Buy online and have it shipped to the store for free. Last edited by steve_dave; 02-07-2010 at 02:57 PM.

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02-07-2010, 02:38 PM	#2
csdot Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Interzone Blu-ray collection:927 DVD collection:93	you came to the wrong place to ask that question

02-07-2010, 02:40 PM	#3
Q? Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Nuuk, Greenland Blu-ray collection:168	No. I'm betting 99% will say the same

02-07-2010, 02:40 PM	#4
Fighter Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:☣☣☣☣☣ Blu-ray collection:14	Not too early....I feel sorry for people still stuck in 'standard def. mode' Well, no, I don't really feel sorry for them

02-07-2010, 02:42 PM	#6
phatrat1982 Banned Member since:Jul 2009 Location:I move around too much to keep this accurate Blu-ray reviews:1	I don't mean the people here I mean for everyone else.

02-07-2010, 02:45 PM	#8
STuTTeRbox60 New Member Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Colorado	time for everyone to join the fun

02-07-2010, 02:46 PM	#9
pokefan Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Stillwater, OK (MEMBER "ECPP" - Tornado Alley Affiliate) Home Theater Gallery:26 4K collection:23 Blu-ray collection:242 Trading Score:22	Why does it matter if the movies they want are on BD yet or not? It's not like they won't still be able to watch DVD on their new set up, and everything coming out from this point on will be on BD most likely so regardless of how many titles are out that they want now they would still be getting an upgrade. Buy new titles on BD and enjoy the DVD's you have if that's how you feel. It's still better then NOT being able to enjoy the new format which is the case if they refuse to upgrade.

02-07-2010, 02:51 PM	#11
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	It is time to get into Blu-ray simply because it is foolish to waste money on inferior dvds at this point. Why spend almost the same money for a format that has no resale value and that looks and sounds much worse?

02-07-2010, 03:19 PM	#14
Stephan.klose Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Vienna Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:1567 Blu-ray reviews: 79	You are right, there are not a lot of great titles out yet. I have only about 420 Blu Rays so far and actually it's hard for me to find anything I wanna buy from the titles already released. So I concentrate on new releases and still manage to buy about 5 a week. In the US there are over 6000 Titles out yet.. And virtually every genre got a lot of great High Def Titles.. Well maybe if you are into Silent Movies or something.. But for "regular" Film enthusiasts there is no valid reason to not buy into blu ray. On the contrary. It's even realy stupid to still spend money on regular DVD's. Because if you are a serious movie fan you will convert sooner or later anyway.. And nowadays the 2 Discs DVD Editions are already more expensive than the Blu Ray releases. So NO it's not still too early..

02-07-2010, 03:21 PM	#15
tiger roach Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:141 Blu-ray reviews:1	Anyone who has an HDTV of any size and appreciates movies needs to have Blu-ray. I'm sorry Potter, that's my final word.

02-07-2010, 03:23 PM	#16
AKORIS Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Beautiful Pacific Northwest 4K collection:662 Blu-ray collection:3655 Blu-ray reviews:19	we recently added a 32" tv in another room with a blu ray player. I was astounded how good my dvd's looked on it since they look mediocre on my 52" Bravia. It's not too early to get a blu ray player but I can see where some people would be happy with dvd if they have a smaller TV.

02-07-2010, 03:24 PM	#17
DJ Manyak Banned Member since:Jan 2010 Trading Score:45	if you are buying blu ray players and no one is using them send one my way and give it a good home

02-07-2010, 03:48 PM	#19
Shanester Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Montreal 4K collection:596 Blu-ray collection:2027 Blu-ray reviews:442 Trading Score:8	Once you go Blu you can never go back to dvd and tell your freind he has no idea what he's missing

02-07-2010, 04:13 PM	#20
lhslancers Active Member Member since:Nov 2009	Not too early IMO and I am not near as fanatical as most who post here. I already had an HDTV and a PS3. Even the best DVD transfers cannot match up to Blu. Anything new that comes out and I want that has excellent PQ I will pick up on Blu. Anything I want that is older and is on DVD I will buy used as cheaply as I can. I am not going to double dip old BW movies however. HK cinema either.

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