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Old 08-03-2007, 03:30 PM   #1
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Default Full Metal Jacket: Deluxe Edition- Better PQ?

Does anyone know if FMJ: DE will have improve PQ? I own the current BD version and was not that impressed by the PQ. I played it off as it's an older movie and that's why.

Should I get this baby listed on eBay soon?

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Old 08-03-2007, 04:32 PM   #2
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Anyone know?

Many thanks in advance!
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:07 PM   #3
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Ah, you want it for the "me so horny" part of movie...

Personally, I want it just for the "get some" part...I can't wait!
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:26 PM   #4
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What part ws that?
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:58 PM   #5
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Does anyone know if FMJ: DE will have improve PQ? I own the current BD version and was not that impressed by the PQ. I played it off as it's an older movie and that's why.
They originally only had an interlaced (1080i) master for that title, and de-interlaced using the bob technique which destroys resolution. The Fugitive was another victim.

To their credit they quickly acknowledged the problem, and promised to never to do it that way again. And, so far, they haven't.

Hopefully since these are all new DVD release too they've invested in new masters (4K scans please, please, pretty please)
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Old 08-03-2007, 09:41 PM   #6
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Probably won't know until its reviewed.
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Old 08-03-2007, 09:51 PM   #7
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What part ws that?
Its when the guys flying in the chopper being a jackass and shooting at civilains, who they call gooks, with a machine gun screaming, "GET SOME! GET SOME!!!" Very funny when I saw it, and yet sad...
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Old 08-04-2007, 01:12 AM   #8
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What part ws that?
What the "me so horny part" or the "GET SOME" part?
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:27 AM   #9
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They originally only had an interlaced (1080i) master for that title, and de-interlaced using the bob technique which destroys resolution. The Fugitive was another victim.

To their credit they quickly acknowledged the problem, and promised to never to do it that way again. And, so far, they haven't.


Gary you keep saying that (The bobbed thing)

Lets play with that. So it was a 1080i48 master or a 1080i60 master? in any case lets forget about any 3:2 as it would have been gone in the road to a 1080p24 BD.

So if you deinterlace the 540 pixel fields that compose a movie frame with the bob method, from a 1080i master you first get 48 bobbed 1080 pixel frames per second with details 2 pixels thick vertically (but horizontal details woud remain 1 pixel thick.) Those 48 1080 frames you have to blend (merge) 2:1 into 24 frames to get 24p. I think if you do that the actual vertical resolution even goes below 540 as for example any venetian blinds would make a black window on one 1/48th deinterlaced frame and a white window on the next 1/48th deinterlaced frame and when you merge that you get a total grey window (appart from any weird strobing patterns that would show up from that) and that's not happening. The vertical resolution sems to look similar to any correctly weaved frame from a 1080i CRT optimized frame. Now there are jaggies (And on Lethal Weapon 2 they're very clear) but as I have posted before, those "jaggies" run horizontal, the opposite direction of bobbed images, they seem to come from 2 pixel thick, or so, horizontal pixels, meaning they look like a lower resolution pic (lets say a 1440 pixel wide or a 960 pixel wide image) being interpolated to 1920 wide, using a simple (nearest neighbor) upscaler. So maybe they were 1080i x 1440 masters that got weaved AND the horizontal res shown in 1920 shows the original lower pixel structure and that's why people think they're bobbed.

What do you think?

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Hopefully since these are all new DVD release too they've invested in new masters (4K scans please, please, pretty please)
(I'm all for high res scans )
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Old 08-04-2007, 04:58 AM   #10
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Well it cant look much worse that's for sure!! I'm glad I rented this one so I didn't waste my money on it!! I might rent the new one when it comes out to see if it is improved any!!
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Well it cant look much worse that's for sure!! I'm glad I rented this one so I didn't waste my money on it!! I might rent the new one when it comes out to see if it is improved any!!
Mischa.
I have it on dvd, hate thats its widescreen, but was the first BD release any better than the dvd?
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I have it on dvd, hate thats its widescreen, but was the first BD release any better than the dvd?
I'll give it that at least it looks better than a sd dvd but not much. Hopefully they do a better job on the new one!!
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Default Full Metal Jacket: Deluxe Edition?

Hey folks.. Just curious if anyone knows the difference between the standard Blu-ray of FMJ and the upcoming Deluxe Edition... I bought the regular version and wish I knew the Deluxe was coming out.

Also.. Is Sin City on Blu-ray?!

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Old 08-04-2007, 09:47 PM   #14
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sin is coming and I belive the specs of the new fmj is in the movies section hopefully they remastered it
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:33 AM   #15
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i liked this movie,if its improved il be picking it up..

im just a war scene type fan.
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Old 08-07-2007, 03:09 PM   #16
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I bought FMJ on blu a few months back and well I didnt care for the quality of the disc at all. I think they should go the rout of The Fifth Element and have a exchange program if the New Edition is of better quality.
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there seems to be some EE in this film - look at the introduction scene Sargent Gunnery Hartmann - specially when he talkt to gomer pyle - there is a wide ringing weak) around Gomer and his head looks unnaural sharp


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there seems to be some EE in this film - look at the introduction scene Sargent Gunnery Hartmann - specially when he talkt to gomer pyle - there is a wide ringing weak) around Gomer and his head looks unnaural sharp


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I have seen this many times on BD and never noticed any EE. I had the regular Deluxe Edition and now I have CA steelbook both of which are the same disc. I know the scene you are referring to and it can definitely appear that EE is present because there is a lot of sunlight coming in from the windows, but it is not.
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