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Old 03-05-2010, 06:06 PM   #1
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Put this down as one of the movies I absolutely could not stand the first time I saw it but love it more each subsequent time I see it. I think I've seen it 4 times now and I may actually understand it less than I did the first time I saw it. Still can't believe it never really ends.
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Best American film of the 2000's IMHO.
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It was remade as Shutter Island LOL.
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It was remade as Shutter Island LOL.
Still haven't seen it but that's hilarious!
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It was remade as Shutter Island LOL.
oh nah you didd't...........finger snap followed by head snap to the right........
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I really loved this film. It's so unique, and better yet, it was filmed by none other than Christopher Nolan! Go figure.
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I really loved this film. It's so unique, and better yet, it was filmed by none other than Christopher Nolan! Go figure.
It is just more proof of Nolan's directorial skills.
Love the scene when he thinks he is chasing that guy.
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I thought the beginning.....Ending.....

Epic.

An actual good movie.
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It is just more proof of Nolan's directorial skills.
And writing skills too.
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I have a theory about this film - that there really are no poloroids.

Think about it. It changes everything.
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:53 PM   #11
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I have a theory about this film - that there really are no poloroids.

Think about it. It changes everything.
Sheesh, this is going to turn into another Prestige thread.
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Sheesh, this is going to turn into another Prestige thread.
Well it kind of makes sense, the Polaroids could be his temporary memories I guess and the tattoos would be the things he doesn't want to forget. Not sure, my head still isn't completely right after seeing it.
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Ihave here a message from Vasudha Gandhi of Queens Village, N.Y., about the movie "Memento": "Although I loved the film, I don't understand one key plot-point. If the last thing the main character remembers is his wife dying, then how does he remember that he has short-term memory loss?" Michael Cusumano of Philadelphia writes with the same query. They may have identified a hole big enough to drive the entire plot through. Perhaps a neurologist can provide a medical answer, but I prefer to believe that Leonard, the hero of the film, has a condition similar to Tom Hanks' "brain cloud" in "Joe vs. the Volcano"--Leonard suffers from a condition brought on by a screenplay that finds it necessary, and it's unkind of us to inquire too deeply.

Leonard is played by Guy Pearce, in a performance that is curiously moving, considering that by definition it has no emotional arc. He has witnessed the violent death of his wife and is determined to avenge it. But he has had short-term memory loss ever since the death and has to make copious notes--he even has memos tattooed to his body as reminders.

If Leonard keeps forgetting what has already happened, we in the audience suffer from the opposite condition. We begin at the end, and work our way back toward the beginning, because the story is told backward.

Well, not exactly; it begins with a brilliant idea, a Polaroid photograph that fades instead of developing, but every individual scene plays with time running forward, and there are some lateral moves and flashbacks that illuminate, or confuse, the issue. Essentially, Leonard is adrift in time and experience, and therefore so are we.

The idea of a narrative told backward was famously used by Harold Pinter in the 1983 film "Betrayal," based on his play. He told a story of adultery and betrayed friendship, beginning with the sad end and then working his way back through disenchantment to complications to happiness to speculation to innocence. His purpose was the opposite of the strategy used by writer-director Christopher Nolan in "Memento." Pinter's subject was memory and regret, and the way adulteries often begin playfully and end miserably. There was irony in the way the characters grew happier in each scene, while the audience's knowledge of what was ahead for them deepened.

Nolan's device of telling his story backward, or sort of backward, is simply that--a device. It does not reflect the way Leonard thinks. He still operates in chronological time, and does not know he is in a time-reversed movie. The film's deep backward and abysm of time is for our entertainment and has nothing to do with his condition. It may actually make the movie too clever for its own good. I've seen it twice. The first time, I thought I'd need a second viewing to understand everything. The second time, I found that greater understanding helped on the plot level, but didn't enrich the viewing experience. Once is right for this movie. Confusion is the state we are intended to be in.

That said, "Memento" is a diabolical and absorbing experience, in which Pearce doggedly plays a low-rent Fugitive who patiently makes maps, jots notes and explains over and over that he has to talk fast because in a few minutes he'll start forgetting the conversation. A motel clerk takes advantage of his condition to charge him for two rooms at the same time and cheerfully admits his fraud, pointing out Leonard will forget it. "Even if you get revenge, you're not going to remember it," he's told at one point, but his reply has a certain logic: "My wife deserves revenge whether or not I remember it." One striking element of the film is a series of flashbacks to a case Leonard investigated when he worked for an insurance company. This involves a man named Sammy, who appears to have memory loss, although he seems otherwise just like good old Sammy. His wife, a diabetic, can't be sure he isn't faking his condition, and arranges a test I will not reveal. This story has relevance to Leonard's own plight, in an indirect way.

The other major characters are Natalie (Carrie-Anne Moss), and Teddy (Joe Pantoliano). Of Natalie, he has a Polaroid inscribed: "She has also lost someone. She will help you out of pity." Their relationship keeps starting over from the beginning. As for Teddy, his identity and role shifts mysteriously.

The purpose of the movie is not for us to solve the murder of the wife ("I can't remember to forget you," he says of her). If we leave the theater not sure exactly what happened, that's fair enough. The movie is more like a poignant exercise, in which Leonard's residual code of honor pushes him through a fog of amnesia toward what he feels is his moral duty. The movie doesn't supply the usual payoff of a thriller (how can it?), but it's uncanny in evoking a state of mind. Maybe telling it backward is Nolan's way of forcing us to identify with the hero. Hey, we all just got here.
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Definitely in my personal top 10 movies of all time. I told everyone I knew to go see the movie.
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I really loved this film. It's so unique, and better yet, it was filmed by none other than Christopher Nolan! Go figure.
Actually, it was Wally Pfister doing the filming.
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sheesh, this is going to turn into another prestige thread.
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Liked it...didn't love it...watched it two times...good enough for me.

Liked Following more.

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I see why people love Memento but I'm not feelin' it. I'm a huge Nolan fan, but when I see a film like Memento that relies so heavily on a cinematic ploy--in this case nonlinear time--I tend to digest the film and then analyze it without the ploy. Does it live up to the hype? No, it isn't nearly as interesting.

The nonlinear time ploy had become fashionable when Tarantino rediscovered it in the 90s, and he used it to good effect in both Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. Both those stood on their own without or in spite of the ploy. But I don't think Memento can. The story is so woven into how it's presented backwards in time that it loses all its intrigue if you take that away from it. So once you watch it once and realize the secret (which seemed pretty predictable even the first time I saw it), you won't really be rewarded by repeat viewings.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's a bad movie. But I'll reach for almost anything else Nolan did before going back to watch Memento.
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I see why people love Memento but I'm not feelin' it. I'm a huge Nolan fan, but when I see a film like Memento that relies so heavily on a cinematic ploy--in this case nonlinear time--I tend to digest the film and then analyze it without the ploy. Does it live up to the hype? No, it isn't nearly as interesting.

The nonlinear time ploy had become fashionable when Tarantino rediscovered it in the 90s, and he used it to good effect in both Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. Both those stood on their own without or in spite of the ploy. But I don't think Memento can. The story is so woven into how it's presented backwards in time that it loses all its intrigue if you take that away from it. So once you watch it once and realize the secret (which seemed pretty predictable even the first time I saw it), you won't really be rewarded by repeat viewings.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's a bad movie. But I'll reach for almost anything else Nolan did before going back to watch Memento.
I don't look at it as a ploy for this film. It ties directly in with the main character. It is Nolan's way of helping the audience understand what it's like to be Leonard Shelby on a daily basis. Always confused, always going in circles. I view it as part of the character development of the film, not just some gimmick to trick the audience.

By the way, shameless plug here on my part (I uploaded this Nolan interview to YouTube):

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIFxNq_oMGY

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbNFxtG8H4

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYO-zUdUoTE

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This film is one of my favorite films of all time. It really shaped my love for movies. Chris Nolan is a genius.
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