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Old 03-31-2010, 01:30 PM   #1
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Default Why are computers faster than bd players?

Is there a reason why bd players aren't as fast as desktop computers and laptops and why haven't they been able to make bd players as fast as today's laptops since a laptop is even smaller than a bd player?

I was curious has to why none of the bd players take advantage of the ATI Radeon and Nvidia video cards, and Intel and AMD processors?

It would be cool if bd players were as powerful as the best gaming laptops.

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Old 03-31-2010, 01:39 PM   #2
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Is there a reason why bd players aren't as fast as desktop computers and laptops and why haven't they been able to make bd players as fast as today's laptops since a laptop is even smaller than a bd player?

I was curious has to why none of the bd players take advantage of the ATI Radeon and Nvidia video cards, and Intel and AMD processors?

It would be cool if bd players were as powerful as the best gaming laptops.

http://www.killernotebooks.com/
there is a blu-ray player that's as fast if not faster than some computers and is as if not more powerful than some gaming laptops, it's called the PS3

mind you i really only use my ps3 for gaming but truth be told it's incredibly powerful as both a gaming system and a blu-ray player. this cannot be denied!

your statement would be true of most standalone players. but they are only made with intention of playing movies, for the most part. so they really don't require the power you speak of. they could all do with the speed boost though so that's a good point.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:44 PM   #3
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Because a blu-ray player only requires a tiny subset of the power a PC needs. It would be overkill, and much more expensive. Also, the power in a modern video card is for rendering graphics, not streaming video. The device you are looking for is a HTPC. Blu-ray players are dedicated machines built to do one task.
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:03 PM   #4
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My Sony BDP-S470 is faster than my computer.
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:22 PM   #5
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Computers faster than a Blu-ray player? Tell that to my laptop and especially my desktop.
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:55 PM   #6
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So, you want your BD player to be as expensive as a laptop, then?

The hardware that goes into laptops and PC's is much more powerful than what goes into most electronics. The PS3 is potentially the only exception, but that was a gaming machine which is also a player (and possibly still being sold at a loss for all I know).
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:33 PM   #7
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i think what your saying is, why can't stand alones play, run blu-ray discs faster and better than a notebook/desktop computer?

since the standalone is dedicated to playing blu-rays and a computer is meant for a whole slew of things?

if that's what your saying i agree 100%... you'd expect something that costs roughly 50% the price of a notebook, and is dedicated to just 1 small function that the notebook does... would be able to load discs faster, make them look better etc etc
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Old 03-31-2010, 07:40 PM   #8
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Depends on the computer, my pc is faster then any blu-ray player ive ever seen, including the PS3.

that aside like what was said before it comes down to cost, the hardware inside of a pc costs a whole heck of alot more then a standalone blu-ray player so cuts had to be made somewhere to keep that cost down, and in this case it was speed. Sure they could put faster hardware in blu-ray players but that would drive the cost up
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:46 AM   #9
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there is a blu-ray player that's as fast if not faster than some computers and is as if not more powerful than some gaming laptops, it's called the PS3
Negative Ghost Rider, PS3 is downright slow compared to Core 2 Duo Desktop and my i5 laptop.

The reason why all standalone players are slower has to do with how they are made...ie they are purpose made with 1x drives a dedicated decoder and just enough CPU plus a little extra to be able to decode the disk and run content without skipping frames.

PS3 was a great player when it first came out and still hold it's own but to say it's faster than today's gaming laptops is just plain nuts..... I mean after all if gaming laptops were to run games at sub 720p (most of them are) resolution, they would smoke a ps3 or 360 for that matter......
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:21 AM   #10
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Negative Ghost Rider, PS3 is downright slow compared to Core 2 Duo Desktop and my i5 laptop.

The reason why all standalone players are slower has to do with how they are made...ie they are purpose made with 1x drives a dedicated decoder and just enough CPU plus a little extra to be able to decode the disk and run content without skipping frames.

PS3 was a great player when it first came out and still hold it's own but to say it's faster than today's gaming laptops is just plain nuts..... I mean after all if gaming laptops were to run games at sub 720p (most of them are) resolution, they would smoke a ps3 or 360 for that matter......
Notice in that quote of mine that you took i said "some" for both laptops & desktops, i didn't say all. My statement is true for "some", yes, many desktops & laptops of today are faster than the ps3 with their modern processors and graphics cards but dollar for dollar, just to play blu-ray movies on, what are most folks gonna buy, an expensive laptop/desktop or a ps3? that question would also be true for gaming. most people would buy a ps3 over a laptop or desktop. no that in no way means laptop or desktop based gaming is dead because it's not, but i bet you can't buy a laptop or desktop for blu-ray movies & HD gaming for the price of a ps3 slim @ $299.99

i mean no disrespect to pc gaming, hey, i have a pc with 2 nvidia graphics cards in there SLI and 8 gb of system ram dual core and it plays games very well and does other things very well too because it's a powerful gaming computer and was designed to do those things at those speeds the deal is that a bd player only needs to play movies well and the pc doesn't play movies faster, it may load them faster but, once thats done they play them at the same speeds, with the same 1080p etc. so the only thing a pc may do is load them faster and i will agree with that completely but other than that, i would use a ps3 or an oppo for blu ray movies it's not worth the money unless you are getting a HTPC then you really wouldn't be getting a ps3 (for the most part)

i'll give you some on this and of course, take some away!
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:07 PM   #11
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I just built a home theater PC, and ended up spending twice as much money as I had originally planned. The original plan included no optical drive, certainly no 5 1/4" LCD display, and Linux for the OS. The finally product includes a dual-layer BD burner, a SilverStone MFP51 display, and Windows 7 Home Premium (for Blu-ray playback and Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA). Blu-rays (and DVDs of course) are very snappy, and CPU usage is <3% while playing a BD. I'll actually be removing my PS3 and DVD player from my entertainment center and using the HTPC for those functions.

For those looking for a video card for HTPC purposes, the ATI Radeon HD 5450 is the best bang for the buck... it has HDMI for both video and bitstreamed Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA (audio chipset is on the card).
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:41 PM   #12
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why exactly do you mean by "slower"?
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:45 PM   #13
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Performance = cost, heat, power consumption and waste in this case.

Once the movie starts your performance means absolutely nothing.
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:10 PM   #14
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that's why i aked
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