Need opinion on whether this new blue ray technology will protect my business - Blu-ray Forum

cmiller · 03-21-2006, 08:24 AM

Like thoughts on whether blue ray will help or damage my video rental (DVD) franchise.

Marwin · 03-21-2006, 02:29 PM

In the short term you probably don't have too much to worry about, it will most likely take quite some time (a few years) for these new formats to penetrate the market and DVD is still doing great. In the long term, I don't really have any idea, it depends on how fast these new formats take hold.

zombie · 03-21-2006, 03:48 PM

Wouldn't you consider adding Blu-ray to your rental store once it becomes more mainstream? Seems to me that would be the logical answer.

Marwin · 03-21-2006, 04:10 PM

There's definitely not going to be any disruptive changes in the market, the transition will happen over years so you should have no problem adapting to the changes and perhaps carry Blu-ray titles in the future as well.

Just out of curiosity, how do you imagine it could damage your business? While Blu-ray hasn't taken off it's not really a threat, and if it takes off you can always offer it yourself? In the long run I think these new formats will be positive as they should allow you to be competetive with other distribution forms such as VOD and online movie downloads, which will surely offer HD movies in the future.

cmiller · 03-21-2006, 04:43 PM

Piracy is the biggest problem with rental and was under the opinion that blue ray may help this become difficult with downloads taking longer. Doing a lot of reading and trying to get my head around this technology.

Shadowself · 03-21-2006, 04:59 PM

the transition from VHS to DVD.

It may even be better as people are already used to this size media and there are significant hurdles to pirating.

Also with your concerns about piracy, the volume of data possible on a 50 GB BD is certainly more than any but the hard core pirates (those who believe all information should be free to them no matter what that information is) are going to want to download from the 'net. Eventually content providers are going to use most of that 50 GB with addons so people wanting to duplicate those disks are going to have to allocate several hours of download time per disk. (Even on a 20 Mbps link it's almost 6 hours!)

Finally, BD has DRM which likely will also inhibit copying by all but the hard core pirates.

Then again, the hard core pirates are never going to be your customers anyway.

shiltz · 03-21-2006, 05:16 PM

I'd think if anything it would hurt a rental buisness, regardless of the fact that it is illegal many people do go and rent movies for $3 to make a copy instead of paying $20+ to buy it, if the copy protections don't get cracked it's posible that those people would stop renting, at least once DVD's are fully phased out.

AV_Integrated · 03-27-2006, 01:52 AM

Well, I would think that it would help your business. That is, if you start carrying HD discs for rental then you have an edge up on some of the competitions potentially. NetFlix will carry them and eventually everyone may need to follow suit.

For piracy - I'm not sure how this harms rental houses... I mean, you have to rent the film to copy it right?

Maybe not.

03-21-2006, 08:24 AM	#1
cmiller New Member Member since:Mar 2006	Need opinion on whether this new blue ray technology will protect my business Like thoughts on whether blue ray will help or damage my video rental (DVD) franchise.

03-21-2006, 04:59 PM	#6
Shadowself Senior Member Member since:Sep 2005	No worse than... the transition from VHS to DVD. It may even be better as people are already used to this size media and there are significant hurdles to pirating. Also with your concerns about piracy, the volume of data possible on a 50 GB BD is certainly more than any but the hard core pirates (those who believe all information should be free to them no matter what that information is) are going to want to download from the 'net. Eventually content providers are going to use most of that 50 GB with addons so people wanting to duplicate those disks are going to have to allocate several hours of download time per disk. (Even on a 20 Mbps link it's almost 6 hours!) Finally, BD has DRM which likely will also inhibit copying by all but the hard core pirates. Then again, the hard core pirates are never going to be your customers anyway.

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03-21-2006, 02:29 PM	#2
Marwin Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:5 iTunes collection:1	In the short term you probably don't have too much to worry about, it will most likely take quite some time (a few years) for these new formats to penetrate the market and DVD is still doing great. In the long term, I don't really have any idea, it depends on how fast these new formats take hold.

03-21-2006, 03:48 PM	#3
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:865	Wouldn't you consider adding Blu-ray to your rental store once it becomes more mainstream? Seems to me that would be the logical answer.

03-21-2006, 04:10 PM	#4
Marwin Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:5 iTunes collection:1	There's definitely not going to be any disruptive changes in the market, the transition will happen over years so you should have no problem adapting to the changes and perhaps carry Blu-ray titles in the future as well. Just out of curiosity, how do you imagine it could damage your business? While Blu-ray hasn't taken off it's not really a threat, and if it takes off you can always offer it yourself? In the long run I think these new formats will be positive as they should allow you to be competetive with other distribution forms such as VOD and online movie downloads, which will surely offer HD movies in the future.

03-21-2006, 04:43 PM	#5
cmiller New Member Member since:Mar 2006	Piracy is the biggest problem with rental and was under the opinion that blue ray may help this become difficult with downloads taking longer. Doing a lot of reading and trying to get my head around this technology.

03-21-2006, 05:16 PM	#7
shiltz Member Member since:Jan 2006	I'd think if anything it would hurt a rental buisness, regardless of the fact that it is illegal many people do go and rent movies for $3 to make a copy instead of paying $20+ to buy it, if the copy protections don't get cracked it's posible that those people would stop renting, at least once DVD's are fully phased out.

03-27-2006, 01:52 AM	#8
AV_Integrated Senior Member Member since:Jan 2005	Well, I would think that it would help your business. That is, if you start carrying HD discs for rental then you have an edge up on some of the competitions potentially. NetFlix will carry them and eventually everyone may need to follow suit. For piracy - I'm not sure how this harms rental houses... I mean, you have to rent the film to copy it right? Maybe not.

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