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Wednesday January 5th 2011
LG press conference - 8am PST / 11am EST Quote:
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Maby because plasma is a better technology for 2D/3D and they decided to focus on that first.
EDIT- It seems like they're already confirmed to have to have it. I thought you ment future models. So are they gonna be updated or something? EDIT 2- Maby they're still in the processes of certification ![]() Last edited by saprano; 01-05-2011 at 06:21 PM. |
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*72LZ9700 and 55LW9500 are confirmed. THX certification for LW7700 is pending final testing and approval by THX Ltd. Yes you're probably right that they got plasma through quicker. |
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Having THX 3D certification does'nt mean having the best 3D.It only means that the color,contrast,sharpness etc meets THX specs.Panasonic still has the best home 3D.I am disappointed they did'nt offer this on their sets but if LG has ,I am sure next years models will have it.
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Listen, I fully expect Panasonic's 3D to be the best, but to make unfounded statements simply isn't something that should be tolerated. And you're right, having 3D THX certification doesn't mean having the best 3D...you're aware that the VT30 has 3D THX certification right? Please try and ascertain your facts before posting statements as such. |
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All I am saying is unless LG can beat the VT25 (rated best 2/D and 3/D TV of 2010) then beat the improved VT30 model then there is no question who has the best 3D TV.I was trying to be polite by using cocky.
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This thread is for the 2011 LG plasma's, nobody was talking about ANYTHING else until you came in with a post that was redundant and off topic. Again, if you want to talk about the Panasonic sets, talk in the Panasonic thread. Further off topic and pointless posts will be removed. |
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I'm really looking forward to the new models. I was pretty impressed with the plasma's that they put out last year. PQ, aesthetics/design and affordable pricing were all great. I just hope that they improved the black levels a bit.
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I just bought a brand new 60" LG PZ950. I hope this set is a huge upgrade from my Toshiba 65" rear projection.
I had originally bought the Samsung PND6500 59" but after a faulty remote sensor on the display i just brought it back and got full refund. SO this 950 should be here wed>>>> SWEEET!!! |
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![]() All new 2011 LG plasmas are using technology that use to be a exclusive feature in all 2006-2008 Pioneer plasma models The discontinued Pioneer Kuru plasma line from 2008 is still the best in flat screen picture quality do to its deep blacks compared to any other flat screen on the market. I was amazed to hear that all existing LG plasmas in production are now using technology that use to be exclusive to Pioneer plasmas. Starting sometime in 2010 according to LG spec sheets the company started offering a feature called “24p real Cinema (3:3 pulldown)”. What that means is that when a 2-D 1080p/24 signal is received from a Blu-ray player or other device, all the LG plasmas will refresh the image on the screen at 72Hz just like in the Cinema. That 72Hz feature offers smooth camera pans and a very natural film look. The 72Hz plasma feature use to be exclusive to all Pioneer 2006-2008 plasmas. Even all the non 1080P LG models will refresh 24p sources at 72Hz. A 1024 X 768 2011 LG plasma model will take a 1080P/24 signal and display it at a resolution of 1024 X 768 at 72Hz. The 1080P models will take a 1080P/24 signal and display it at a full resolution of 1920 X 1080P at 72Hz. Now if LG would just improve on their black levels and frame rates for 3-D they could become a technology leader in flat screen picture quality. Hopefully LG 3D models in the future will start offering a minimum of a 144Hz refresh rates for native 3-D frame packed Blu-ray sources. Click here for all the LG plasmas that offer a 72Hz feature for 2-D material (Note only some models are 1080P) The following is a sample of the LG 50PK540 spec sheet that mentions the 3:3 pulldown feature: English One can purchase a 1080P LG 50PK540 plasma screen with the 72Hz feature for only $799.99 from an Amazon dealer. http://www.amazon.com/LG-50PK540-108...3875754&sr=8-2 There has been no professional review written about how well these LG 72Hz plasmas work. The instruction manuals are very vague on the feature. Most likely when the “Film Mode” is turned on, the LG 72Hz models will switch from 60Hz mode to 72Hz mode when a 1080p/24 signal is present. 72Hz is just like viewing a movie on a film projector in the theater in terms of natural smooth frame rate. |
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Just curious, but is 72hz mode actually superior to say the 96hz mode that Panasonic/Samsung uses in some models? I mean, I know that the 48hz and under modes produce undesirable flicker, but is 72hz better than 96hz because it only has to refresh 3 times vs 4 times for 96hz or is it something else.
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I made this post in two threads & it went unnoticed.
"My grandfather just got an LG PK550 50" (I think that's what it is...anyway) and I must say I was impressed by it & will most likely get one for my self. It does 1080p/24hz (3:3 72hz) just fine no doubling black levels when in 1080p/24Hz using 3:3 72Hz cinema mode, no floating black problems, has tons of settings, ISFccc ability, great picture, nice contrast, sexy black "all business bezel" (I love that look, just like my Kuro's bezel). .....tons of good thing about this display. Sure the blacks arent what im used to but all in all it seems pretty great. It won't be used as a dedicated HT room display anyway. It will go in a bedroom with a BD player and HD DVR cable box. I would of never looked a this LG if my Grandfather had not of got it by supprise. It's rated very high and you can get one for around $850!" ![]() |
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![]() I stopped or took a break from researching the 24p feature on every single brand and model of 2-D display back around October 2010 (to time consuming). Sometime in late 2010 or early 2011 LG released documentation on their website that shows all current LG plasmas have a 72Hz mode. That is awesome since before in 2009 and early 2010 they were only offering 48Hz on select plasma models, and 48Hz can sometimes have flicker issues. Thanks again Sonny for discovering this 72Hz feature. Now hopefully sometime Home Theater magazine and others will review the 72Hz feature. Since LG plasmas offer 72Hz on every single existing model including the 768P models, hopefully Samsung and Panasonic will offer a 96Hz feature on every plasma model in the future. Also hopefully the 96Hz mode will not have any flicker or black level problems on future models. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 04-27-2011 at 06:54 AM. |
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If done right with no bugs 96Hz can look better than 72Hz. Frame rates (HZ) are important but not as important as the following: The black levels, ANSI contrast ratio, shadow detail, resolution, and color accuracy are more important issues in terms of picture quality. For example a Pioneer plasma from 2008 with 72HZ has a better picture quality compared to a LCD screen at 480Hz or a plasma at 120Hz or 96Hz since the black level, contrast ratio, and shadow detail are better quality on the Pioneer. If Pioneer was still in the plasma business and they made a 96Hz or 144Hz model it most likely would have a little bit better picture quality than the old 72Hz 2008 model. If the 2011 LG plasmas are really doing 72Hz with no picture quality problems then LG might finally have matched the 2008 Pioneers in the frame rate area. The Pioneers from 2008 still have better picture quality in terms of deeper blacks. I would love to see LG or another plasma manufactory match or beat the Pioneers picture quality. Maybe in a couple years or so that may occur. Right now offering 72Hz on every LG plasma model is a step in the right direction. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 04-27-2011 at 08:19 AM. |
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I see. I was aware of the Cinema Smooth bug on the Samsung's that increased the black level, but wasn't aware of that happening on the VT series (since that's the only Panny that offered 96hz mode in the NA versions).
I had read that some 2010 LG's though were affected by the 72hz mode and would drop their black levels as well. |
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I also like quoting from professional reviews from magazines since once and awhile user reviews can be inaccurate because of mistakes made in testing or false information posted on purpose. |
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