Sony Vegas Pro 8 - Burn BD straight from the timeline

[LynxFX]

Vegas Pro 8 which is released this week can now burn BD's straight from the timeline. Menuless, but still BD compatible. I wonder if you can burn the disc structure to a DVD? I have quite a few HD projects in Vegas but no BD burner yet.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...457&PageID=104

Blu-ray Disc Burning
With Vegas Pro 8 software you can burn a Blu-ray Disc directly from the timeline. Blu-ray Disc burning allows you to create a disc similar to a "single movie" DVD—the movie has no titles, menus, or buttons. Blu-ray Disc burning in Vegas Pro 8 software provides an alternate distribution option for high-definition content, rather than traditional file-based hard disk or streaming media formats. You can also use the Blu-ray Disc burning feature to create high-definition discs that can playback on a set-top Blu-ray Disc player or on a Sony PS3 gaming system.

[KevinShaw]

So apparently this is just a limited menu-less option from Vegas itself, and not full-featured Blu-ray authoring via DVD Architect? Bummer.

[glenn22]

Originally Posted by LynxFX

Vegas Pro 8 which is released this week can now burn BD's straight from the timeline. Menuless, but still BD compatible. I wonder if you can burn the disc structure to a DVD? I have quite a few HD projects in Vegas but no BD burner yet.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...457&PageID=104

shouldn't this be in the recorders section?

[LynxFX]

Originally Posted by KevinShaw

So apparently this is just a limited menu-less option from Vegas itself, and not full-featured Blu-ray authoring via DVD Architect? Bummer.

Yeah, no menus yet. Adobe Encore has also added Blu-ray support in their latest CS3 suite. I know it can do basic, dvd style menus but haven't checked it out enough to see what else you can do.

[plee]

Originally Posted by LynxFX

Yeah, no menus yet. Adobe Encore has also added Blu-ray support in their latest CS3 suite. I know it can do basic, dvd style menus but haven't checked it out enough to see what else you can do.

From reports CS3 and Encore is still buggy but it does \BDMV type discs. Sounds like Vegas is creating \BDAV discs which is more compatible with players right now.

[JonasK]

Originally Posted by plee

From reports CS3 and Encore is still buggy but it does \BDMV type discs. Sounds like Vegas is creating \BDAV discs which is more compatible with players right now.

Vegas is creating BDMV discs. I don't have a BD burner, but I tried to burn a DVD instead. Unfortunately, my PS3 didn't recognize the disc as a BDMV disc. I had to manually go the BDMV/STREAM folder and play the video stream, but that worked!

[plee]

Originally Posted by JonasK

Vegas is creating BDMV discs. I don't have a BD burner, but I tried to burn a DVD instead. Unfortunately, my PS3 didn't recognize the disc as a BDMV disc. I had to manually go the BDMV/STREAM folder and play the video stream, but that worked!

If you burn to DVD, I think if you remove the AACS folder the PS3 will play it.

[phloyd]

Originally Posted by plee

If you burn to DVD, I think if you remove the AACS folder the PS3 will play it.

I don't think this is true, but maybe there is a way though since I have seen a BD formatted AVCHD disc on DVDR play in the PS3. I have not had a chance to look at the disc structure yet.

The Panasonic player will play them though.

[JonasK]

Originally Posted by plee

If you burn to DVD, I think if you remove the AACS folder the PS3 will play it.

The BDMV image that Vegas creates does not contain a AACS folder.

Originally Posted by phloyd

I don't think this is true, but maybe there is a way though since I have seen a BD formatted AVCHD disc on DVDR play in the PS3. I have not had a chance to look at the disc structure yet.

The Panasonic player will play them though.

AVCHD uses the BDAV format, which is a simpler format compared to the BDMV format that Vegas uses. BDMV is the format used for movies with advanced menus, but Vegas does not generate any menus, just chapter points. I'm expecting advanced menus to be supported in DVD Architect 5.0, whenever that comes out...

[Neo65]

Originally Posted by JonasK

The BDMV image that Vegas creates does not contain a AACS folder.

AVCHD uses the BDAV format, which is a simpler format compared to the BDMV format that Vegas uses. BDMV is the format used for movies with advanced menus, but Vegas does not generate any menus, just chapter points. I'm expecting advanced menus to be supported in DVD Architect 5.0, whenever that comes out...

AVCHD is not BDAV, it is a BDMV structure.

[plee]

This thread on Roxio may help.

http://forums.support.roxio.com/inde...opic=21074&hl=

[JonasK]

Originally Posted by Neo65

AVCHD is not BDAV, it is a BDMV structure.

Right, my bad. But since AVCHD on DVD works in PS3 and the BDMV format produce by Vegas does not work on DVD in PS3, it seems like AVCHD is not "the BDMV format" even though it has the same structure.

Can someone clarify how BDAV, AVCHD and BDMV are related? I also think that there are two types of BDMV, one with DVD-like menus and one with BD-J.