Full Screen TV shows on Blu-ray - Blu-ray Forum

DealsR4theDevil · 09-10-2007, 03:50 PM

I wanna start out by saying i have no problem with fullscreen. In fact i used to watch a lot of Full Screen things on my plasma with black lines on the left and right. But then i noticed i was getting Burn-in from the black lines. Now i try to just watch Widescreen movies, i watch Full Screen every now and then but im careful not to watch it for to long.

Having said that, I would also like to point out that many TV shows that were released on DVD in Full Screen and only aired in Full Screen were filmed in Widescreen. Buffy the Vampire Slayer is the best example of this. Starting from, i believe, season 4 it was filmed in Wide Screen. They knew it was going to air in Full Screen so they filmed the episodes with that in mind. However, those episodes are filmed in Wide Screen and can be released that way if they so chose.

Now im all about preserving the original aspect ratios, but not if it restricts me from watching certain things for certain amounts of time. I for one hope some of these shows are Released in Wide Screen on Blu-ray. We wouldnt gain much in the sense of picture from it but we wont have to worry about Burn-in. Its not like the Wide Screen format would take away from the shows just because they werent intended for Wide Screen.

What do you guys think?

P.S. I consided an LCD but they are substantially darker than plasmas. When i watch upconverted Angel discs (which are in widescreen) on my plasma, it is still sometimes difficult to make out what is going on because of how dark the picture is, the show being set primarily at night. It was worse on the Samsung LCD i had before. Buffy is also heavy on the night shots and an LCD would just add to the problem. Something with a big production value like Batman Begins still looks good at night but Buffy and Angel are not as clear.

Blu Tiger · 09-10-2007, 03:57 PM

When you say full screen, do you mean 4:3 or 16:9?

DealsR4theDevil · 09-10-2007, 03:59 PM

4:3

Blu Tiger · 09-10-2007, 04:06 PM

Ok, sorry, I'm used to having a widescreen tv (16:9) and full screen to me is anything that fills up the screen without having bars. 1.78:1 is the aspect ratio that will completely fill a widescreen tv. 4:3 will actually have bars on a wide screen tv (on the sides) unless you stretch the image. I only have one show on blu-ray (Weeds) and it fills the screen completely on a 16:9 screen.

blujacket · 09-10-2007, 04:10 PM

OAR, or no sale for me. If it was filmed 4.3 thats how I want it.

ground chuck · 09-10-2007, 04:14 PM

16:9 widescreen is the only way to go.

Blu Tiger · 09-10-2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blujacket

OAR, or no sale for me. If it was filmed 4.3 thats how I want it.

I haven't seen any 4:3 blu-ray's.

miked924 · 09-10-2007, 04:21 PM

For example if a show like The Shield were to come out on blu ray it would be 4:3 because that's how it's shot

blujacket · 09-10-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

I haven't seen any 4:3 blu-ray's.

You will when all the tv shows that were filmed that way are released. Seinfeld anyone?

Magic · 09-10-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

When you say full screen, do you mean 4:3 or 16:9?

Really? You couldn't tell what BAND-AID meant in his post? Black bars on the left and the right were mentioned as well as full screen vs. wide screen. I find it hard to believe that you have been with your hdtv for sooo long that you forgot that the term "full-screen" still references 4:3 aspect ratio and not 16:9.

Try not to beat BAND-AID up too bad or make him feel like a dummy....you knew what he meant.

bubs · 09-10-2007, 05:44 PM

Another good example is Seinfeld on DVD. I have to stretch/fit the image just so it fills up the whole screen. I wonder what aspect ratio this was filmed in? Also, I think Sony own the rights or something, is it possible well see it on BD?

Garconis · 09-10-2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubs

Another good example is Seinfeld on DVD. I have to stretch/fit the image just so it fills up the whole screen. I wonder what aspect ratio this was filmed in? Also, I think Sony own the rights or something, is it possible well see it on BD?

It was filmed in 4:3, according to IMDB. paidgeek mentioned they were "considering" Seinfeld for BD. That would be AWESOME! I wouldnt mind if it was 4:3, as long as I could get whole series in one buy.

aristotles · 09-10-2007, 06:03 PM

I'd suggest looking into LCD's again, especially the Sony Bravia series which has come down in price quite a bit.

I've looked at Plasmas and LCDs recently and the Plasmas seem to be darker now with poorer contrast ratios. You also don't have to worry about burn in issues.

Leopold BUTTERS · 09-10-2007, 06:39 PM

All 17 new futurama episodes were made in 16:9 so when that comes out on BD it will be full screen

EricJ · 09-10-2007, 06:52 PM

Also, most of the local HD affiliates (such as Fox and NBC, whose programming is not HD 24/7) air their full-screen reruns with added "white bars" on the side, to avoid the problem of black ones.
While the network news--which has the anchor desk in widescreen and the news footage in fullscreen, since you don't take HD equipment to Iraq--adds "blur" side-borders to the square news-footage, which you don't see on the standard show.

Don't know how WB handled Casablanca on HD, but think we're starting to see some studio industry recognition of having to help out all those darn plasma owners.

Blu Tiger · 09-10-2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic

Really? You couldn't tell what BAND-AID meant in his post? Black bars on the left and the right were mentioned as well as full screen vs. wide screen. I find it hard to believe that you have been with your hdtv for sooo long that you forgot that the term "full-screen" still references 4:3 aspect ratio and not 16:9.

Try not to beat BAND-AID up too bad or make him feel like a dummy....you knew what he meant.

I did not say anything even remotely negative, so how did I make him feel bad? And I thought he meant 4:3 as full screen, but I wasn't sure since he is in a blu-ray forum talking about full screen vs. widescreen. I got confused since there have been no full screen (4:3) blu-rays yet.

statikcat · 09-10-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garconis

It was filmed in 4:3, according to IMDB. paidgeek mentioned they were "considering" Seinfeld for BD. That would be AWESOME! I wouldnt mind if it was 4:3, as long as I could get whole series in one buy.

Yeah I don't mind TV shows in 4:3 as long as the quality is great. A lot of older tv shows such as ALF just have poor masters in general.. which sucks way harder than being in 4:3.

atomik kinder · 09-10-2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

I haven't seen any 4:3 blu-ray's.

I know this isn't Blu-ray, but the Star Trek boxed set is being released in a 4:3 format. It will be interesting to hear comments about the big black bars on the sides of the screens.

Redsand7 · 09-10-2007, 08:05 PM

I think that the main thing is to remember your content if you are looking to take the next leap and upgrade the TV (again). I would agree that LCD is a very viable option for you, but have A LOT of experience with 4:3 content (my 1 1/2 year old loves her Baby Einstein and Signing videos) and my DLP handles it great. If you still need something flat against the wall and can't wait for OLED or some of the other options more than likely announced at CES in January; I would recommend hanging around your BB/CC/Fry's locations and scoping out the end of year models they will be fire-saling in the next few months.

Good Luck!

09-10-2007, 03:50 PM	#1
DealsR4theDevil Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:76	Full Screen TV shows on Blu-ray I wanna start out by saying i have no problem with fullscreen. In fact i used to watch a lot of Full Screen things on my plasma with black lines on the left and right. But then i noticed i was getting Burn-in from the black lines. Now i try to just watch Widescreen movies, i watch Full Screen every now and then but im careful not to watch it for to long. Having said that, I would also like to point out that many TV shows that were released on DVD in Full Screen and only aired in Full Screen were filmed in Widescreen. Buffy the Vampire Slayer is the best example of this. Starting from, i believe, season 4 it was filmed in Wide Screen. They knew it was going to air in Full Screen so they filmed the episodes with that in mind. However, those episodes are filmed in Wide Screen and can be released that way if they so chose. Now im all about preserving the original aspect ratios, but not if it restricts me from watching certain things for certain amounts of time. I for one hope some of these shows are Released in Wide Screen on Blu-ray. We wouldnt gain much in the sense of picture from it but we wont have to worry about Burn-in. Its not like the Wide Screen format would take away from the shows just because they werent intended for Wide Screen. What do you guys think? P.S. I consided an LCD but they are substantially darker than plasmas. When i watch upconverted Angel discs (which are in widescreen) on my plasma, it is still sometimes difficult to make out what is going on because of how dark the picture is, the show being set primarily at night. It was worse on the Samsung LCD i had before. Buffy is also heavy on the night shots and an LCD would just add to the problem. Something with a big production value like Batman Begins still looks good at night but Buffy and Angel are not as clear.

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09-10-2007, 03:57 PM	#2
Blu Tiger Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:725 Trading Score:27	When you say full screen, do you mean 4:3 or 16:9?

09-10-2007, 03:59 PM	#3
DealsR4theDevil Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:76	4:3

09-10-2007, 04:06 PM	#4
Blu Tiger Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:725 Trading Score:27	Ok, sorry, I'm used to having a widescreen tv (16:9) and full screen to me is anything that fills up the screen without having bars. 1.78:1 is the aspect ratio that will completely fill a widescreen tv. 4:3 will actually have bars on a wide screen tv (on the sides) unless you stretch the image. I only have one show on blu-ray (Weeds) and it fills the screen completely on a 16:9 screen.

09-10-2007, 04:10 PM	#5
blujacket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Dayton,Ohio 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:658	OAR, or no sale for me. If it was filmed 4.3 thats how I want it.

09-10-2007, 04:14 PM	#6
ground chuck Power Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Charm City Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:48 Trading Score:18	16:9 widescreen is the only way to go.

09-10-2007, 04:21 PM	#8
miked924 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Queens, NY Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:295 Blu-ray collection:1038 DVD collection:22 iTunes collection:4 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:2	For example if a show like The Shield were to come out on blu ray it would be 4:3 because that's how it's shot

09-10-2007, 05:44 PM	#11
bubs Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Montreal	Another good example is Seinfeld on DVD. I have to stretch/fit the image just so it fills up the whole screen. I wonder what aspect ratio this was filmed in? Also, I think Sony own the rights or something, is it possible well see it on BD?

09-10-2007, 06:03 PM	#13
aristotles Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:401 Blu-ray reviews:1	I'd suggest looking into LCD's again, especially the Sony Bravia series which has come down in price quite a bit. I've looked at Plasmas and LCDs recently and the Plasmas seem to be darker now with poorer contrast ratios. You also don't have to worry about burn in issues.

09-10-2007, 06:39 PM	#14
Leopold BUTTERS Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:AB,Canada Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	All 17 new futurama episodes were made in 16:9 so when that comes out on BD it will be full screen

09-10-2007, 06:52 PM	#15
EricJ Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:The Paradise of New England Blu-ray collection:6	Also, most of the local HD affiliates (such as Fox and NBC, whose programming is not HD 24/7) air their full-screen reruns with added "white bars" on the side, to avoid the problem of black ones. While the network news--which has the anchor desk in widescreen and the news footage in fullscreen, since you don't take HD equipment to Iraq--adds "blur" side-borders to the square news-footage, which you don't see on the standard show. Don't know how WB handled Casablanca on HD, but think we're starting to see some studio industry recognition of having to help out all those darn plasma owners.

09-10-2007, 08:05 PM	#19
Redsand7 Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:SJ, CA	I think that the main thing is to remember your content if you are looking to take the next leap and upgrade the TV (again). I would agree that LCD is a very viable option for you, but have A LOT of experience with 4:3 content (my 1 1/2 year old loves her Baby Einstein and Signing videos) and my DLP handles it great. If you still need something flat against the wall and can't wait for OLED or some of the other options more than likely announced at CES in January; I would recommend hanging around your BB/CC/Fry's locations and scoping out the end of year models they will be fire-saling in the next few months. Good Luck!

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