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Old 09-18-2007, 03:30 AM   #1
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Just wondering if anyone could tell me how one is suppose to know if a cable is HDMI 1.3 because every monster HDMI cable i have looked at doesnt tell me what version HDMI it is...am i even looking in the right spot? or do we have to guess ? whats the deal?
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:34 AM   #2
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It doesn't matter. HDMI 1.3 certification is propaganda to get you to buy an overpriced (Monster) cable that does the same thing as any other cable.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:36 AM   #3
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Just wondering if anyone could tell me how one is suppose to know if a cable is HDMI 1.3 because every monster HDMI cable i have looked at doesnt tell me what version HDMI it is...am i even looking in the right spot? or do we have to guess ? whats the deal?
Monster M series M1000 and M850, also their new line the 1000hd and the 700hd are all HDMI 1.3 certified by the ISF.

There is really no way to tell which ones are 1.3 unless the manufacturer tells you.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:51 AM   #4
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There is no, nada, zero difference between HDMI cables. Get the cheapest one you can find.

That is the beauty of it being DIGITAL.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:24 AM   #5
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If you're looking for dirt cheap HDMI cables check out www.mycableshop.ca or www.mycableshop.com.

If you enjoy paying too much for your cables, go to your local retailer and pick up a Monster cable then go to the cashier and they will shake you upside down by your ankles to get every last hard earned penny.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:27 AM   #6
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Amazon has reasonably price cables, too.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:18 AM   #7
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hey guys i appreciate yr posts but one thing i know for sure is that there is a lot of differnce between the different versions of HDMI ...if u go to WWW.HDMI.ORG u will see that u will not be able to run certain features with the lower versions of HDMI. For example i know for a fact that 1.3 allows for x.v color which is the new standard and that the lower versions dont have the banthwith to utilize this feature....
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HDMI Article

Good article on HDMI. Here's a snippet:

In June 2005, the HDMI organization announced the new HDMI 1.3 spec. Among other things, the 1.3 spec offers new color depths which require more bits per pixel. The HDMI press release states:
"HDMI 1.3 increases its single-link bandwidth from 165MHz (4.95 gigabits per second) to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) to support the demands of future high definition display devices, such as higher resolutions, Deep Color and high frame rates."
So, what did they do to enable the HDMI cable to convey this massive increase in bitrate? If your guess is "nothing whatsoever," you're right. The HDMI cable is still the same four shielded 100-ohm twisted pairs, still subject to the same technical and manufacturing limitations.


The versions of HDMI are applicable to the sources/receivers (for lack of better term), not the cables themselves. Any properly made HDMI cable will perform equally to another, with the exception (and not always) being at runs of significant distance.

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Old 09-18-2007, 05:27 AM   #9
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Just wondering if anyone could tell me how one is suppose to know if a cable is HDMI 1.3 because every monster HDMI cable i have looked at doesnt tell me what version HDMI it is...am i even looking in the right spot? or do we have to guess ? whats the deal?
All that matters is if your Blu Ray player and your receiver are 1.3 a cable is a cable is a cable.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:45 AM   #10
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HDMI 1.3 is the format built into the hardware(TV, receiver, blu-ray player). any hdmi cable is capable of hdmi 1.1, 1.2, 1.3. every hdmi cable has the same number of connecting pins. So to recap, hdmi 1.3 is built into consumer electronics , not the cable.
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Is the PS3 HDMI 1.3 compliant?
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:33 AM   #12
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HDMI 1.3 is the format built into the hardware(TV, receiver, blu-ray player). any hdmi cable is capable of hdmi 1.1, 1.2, 1.3. every hdmi cable has the same number of connecting pins. So to recap, hdmi 1.3 is built into consumer electronics , not the cable.
this is interesting... can u show me evidence regarding yr post.. i have always thought that the versions were actually different cables.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:35 AM   #13
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Is the PS3 HDMI 1.3 compliant?
Yes the PS3 is unlike the xbox which is 1.2a lol
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:48 AM   #14
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Having first emerged on DVD players, HDMI has subsequently found its way onto games consoles, digital TV, satellite and cable boxes, laptops and high definition disc players. This is all the more reason to invest in a good cable to make the most of your kit. What’s that you say?! “Upgrade cables can’t make any difference because it’s all digital?” There’s only one answer to that, and it rhymes with “rollocks”.!!! I bought the official Sony HDMI cable for £17.99 and it looked good then I got one for £30 and it looked and sounded better, now I’m on the excellent “Clearer Audio Copper-line HDMI” 2M which is £60 and it makes the official Sony look and sound like a peace of crap! It has improved the 1080 pictures stability with fast motion in particular and sonically, it tightens bass - well worth the money. You guys should also upgrade the power lead - the one you get with the PS3 is the same as you would use on a kettle which as we know is only good for boiling water I’m using the Black Rhodium Super Mains 25 (which I think might be discontinued now) but it cost me £80 back in the day. It has made the colours more vibrant and also made the sound shaper too in both Blu-ray and games. However, if you only use your PS3 for games on a standard TV and don’t have it hooked up to a Amp, there is no need to upgrade because you won’t see or hear any difference. But, if like me, you use it for Blu-rays on a 1080p TV and have an Amp to hear the Hi Def sound then UPGRADE and reap the rewards!!!
But before you start slating me, the only real way for you to know is to go to your local Hi-fi store and ask for a demo, you can take your ps3 or use one of there Blu-ray player and then see if you see any difference, I’m sure you will be coming home with some nice new leads
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:19 PM   #15
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this is interesting... can u show me evidence regarding yr post.. i have always thought that the versions were actually different cables.
No, the differences are in the devices, the cable plays a very small part, particularly on the bandwidth and length of runs.

Head over to the HDMI Web site and read all about it.

http://www.hdmi.org/
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Go to monoprice.com for your HDMI needs low low prices !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Simple question for you----did you buy the cheapest TV on the market?
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There is no, nada, zero difference between HDMI cables. Get the cheapest one you can find.

That is the beauty of it being DIGITAL.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:17 PM   #18
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Simple question for you----did you buy the cheapest TV on the market?
Quality isn't always measured by price.
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Simple question for you----did you buy the cheapest TV on the market?
Is that your way of saying a WAY OVERPRICED MONSTER cable provides better viewing than some other HDMI cable not named MONSTER?

Because if that is what you are trying to say, you are 100% wrong.

I bought a Sony TV so I didn't buy the cheapest HDTV on the market at the time. When the time came to buy an HDMI cable for another device I used my self taught understanding of HDMI cables to purchase a reasonably priced, far more affordable HDMI cable than anything labeled MONSTER.

That's called being an educated consumer. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I once found a report on HDMI cables on a web site.

From what I gathered, any cable would work just fine when transmitting standard 1920x1080 signal, at 10 feet or less.

The problem showed up at longer runs especially with the higher specs of HDMI 1.3 (such as higher resolution). At that point, more expensive cables, such as Monster, were not adequate. They did perform slightly better than "cheaper" cables.

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