PS3 and Profile 1.1 - Blu-ray Forum

Zaphod · 09-21-2007, 03:59 AM

Now here is an interesting question which maybe someone out there can answer. If Sony were to announce the rumored 40 GB PS3 for $399.99, and they do so after October 31st, since this will be a new SKU and probably a new model number, will this apply to the new mandatory profile 1.1 rules?

Just a thought...

cueman98 · 09-21-2007, 04:24 AM

Well.. I would say that IF sony release a firmware update that makes the current PS3 models 1.1 compliant on or prior to the October 31 deadline, then all future models released after October 31st would be 1.1 compliant, because they would be running the current firmware.

Zaphod · 09-21-2007, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cueman98

Well.. I would say that IF sony release a firmware update that makes the current PS3 models 1.1 compliant on or prior to the October 31 deadline, then all future models released after October 31st would be 1.1 compliant, because they would be running the current firmware.

Of course assuming a FW update would be able to do this...here's to hoping!

gvortex7 · 09-21-2007, 04:32 AM

IF it comes out at all and is beyond 10/31 then it has to be profile 1.1 compatible. It is mandated by the BDA that ANY players released beyond that date have to be profile 1.1 compatible. That would include a new PS3 design as well.

Uxi · 09-21-2007, 05:18 AM

PS3 looks like it qualifies for 2.0, so I'm hoping we get that. An intermediary jump to 1.1 would be fine, in the meantime.

The Guardian · 09-21-2007, 11:14 AM

The jump from 1.1 to 2.0 seems so small, they should have called them 2.0 and 2.1.

In other words IF the PS3 is capable of 2.0 I don't see any reason why it wouldn't jump straight to that, except if Sony is being nice to the other CE companies letting them come out with a 2.0 player first...

WriteSimply · 09-21-2007, 12:46 PM

The criteria for Profile 1.1 is simply: a) secondary video decoding; b) secondary audio decoding; c) minimum 256MB persistent memory (the PS3 has 20GB at least.)

For Profile 2.0, it needs: a) network connectivity via an ethernet port at least; b) minimum 1GB persistent memory.

So for the PS3, all the firmware needs to do is enable the Cell to do secondary video and audio decoding and the PS3 becomes a Profile 2.0 BD player.

fuad

mike_schultz · 09-21-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WriteSimply

The criteria for Profile 1.1 is simply: a) secondary video decoding; b) secondary audio decoding; c) minimum 256MB persistent memory (the PS3 has 20GB at least.)

For Profile 2.0, it needs: a) network connectivity via an ethernet port at least; b) minimum 1GB persistent memory.

So for the PS3, all the firmware needs to do is enable the Cell to do secondary video and audio decoding and the PS3 becomes a Profile 2.0 BD player.

fuad

Forgive my ignorance, but when you say "secondary audio decoding", what exactly are you referring to?

Zaphod · 09-21-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_schultz

Forgive my ignorance, but when you say "secondary audio decoding", what exactly are you referring to?

Typically for interactive audio and commentary...

Click ---> Here <--- for more info on Blu-ray profiles.

mike_schultz · 09-21-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaphod

Typically for interactive audio and commentary...

Click ---> Here <--- for more info on Blu-ray profiles.

Great. Thank you!

bootman · 09-21-2007, 10:08 PM

What people forget is that the PS3 is a software based player.
Not any different that having a bluray drive in your PC.
Everything is emulated by the cell.
So logic would tell you that the other profile's features will just be written to it as well.

LynxFX · 09-21-2007, 11:44 PM

The PS3 should in theory be able to do 7 picture-in-picture streams. When the PS3 was first announced they showed something like 8 1080p streams going at once running off of the predev kits.

So I have no doubt that the PS3 will be updated to a fully 2.0 compliant BD player. The only question is when.

09-21-2007, 03:59 AM	#1
Zaphod Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Blu-ray collection:350 Trading Score:4	PS3 and Profile 1.1 Now here is an interesting question which maybe someone out there can answer. If Sony were to announce the rumored 40 GB PS3 for $399.99, and they do so after October 31st, since this will be a new SKU and probably a new model number, will this apply to the new mandatory profile 1.1 rules? Just a thought...

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09-21-2007, 04:24 AM	#2
cueman98 Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Blu-ray collection:1	Well.. I would say that IF sony release a firmware update that makes the current PS3 models 1.1 compliant on or prior to the October 31 deadline, then all future models released after October 31st would be 1.1 compliant, because they would be running the current firmware.

09-21-2007, 04:32 AM	#4
gvortex7 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Fort Lauderdale, FL Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:105	IF it comes out at all and is beyond 10/31 then it has to be profile 1.1 compatible. It is mandated by the BDA that ANY players released beyond that date have to be profile 1.1 compatible. That would include a new PS3 design as well.

09-21-2007, 05:18 AM	#5
Uxi Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:9	PS3 looks like it qualifies for 2.0, so I'm hoping we get that. An intermediary jump to 1.1 would be fine, in the meantime.

09-21-2007, 11:14 AM	#6
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	The jump from 1.1 to 2.0 seems so small, they should have called them 2.0 and 2.1. In other words IF the PS3 is capable of 2.0 I don't see any reason why it wouldn't jump straight to that, except if Sony is being nice to the other CE companies letting them come out with a 2.0 player first...

09-21-2007, 12:46 PM	#7
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	The criteria for Profile 1.1 is simply: a) secondary video decoding; b) secondary audio decoding; c) minimum 256MB persistent memory (the PS3 has 20GB at least.) For Profile 2.0, it needs: a) network connectivity via an ethernet port at least; b) minimum 1GB persistent memory. So for the PS3, all the firmware needs to do is enable the Cell to do secondary video and audio decoding and the PS3 becomes a Profile 2.0 BD player. fuad

09-21-2007, 10:08 PM	#11
bootman Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Burghs	What people forget is that the PS3 is a software based player. Not any different that having a bluray drive in your PC. Everything is emulated by the cell. So logic would tell you that the other profile's features will just be written to it as well.

09-21-2007, 11:44 PM	#12
LynxFX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007	The PS3 should in theory be able to do 7 picture-in-picture streams. When the PS3 was first announced they showed something like 8 1080p streams going at once running off of the predev kits. So I have no doubt that the PS3 will be updated to a fully 2.0 compliant BD player. The only question is when.

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