Are the Blu-Ray players worth the $1,000?

[Chris]

Is it worth it to spend close to a 1,000 on a blu-ray player which is basically a glorified DVD player? I think that the price will be $350 by this time next year. It will reach $100 in 3 to 5 years. What do you think?

[suprmallet]

Early adopters of any technology will pay a premium for the product. Many of us are waiting for a PS3 to be our BD player. At the same time, we hear news of people getting Samsung players and we're very jealous. In the end, if you cannot wait to get high definition DVDs, then yes, it is worth it. If you can wait, no it is not.

[partridge]

blu-ray players, some or all, also have an internet connection allowing you to access further extras, or maybe keep some of them up to date? I don't know, but I gather blu-ray is beyond anything you've seen on a DVD, and I don't just mean the picture quality.

[hmurchison]

No they are not worth $1000 in my opinion. I believe they should be $699 considering the Toshiba HD DVD player is $499 with superior specs to the Samsung BD player.

Note...I'm not talking about the relative worth of the BD platform just it's current launch pricing which I feel is exorbitant for unfinished players.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

No they are not worth $1000 in my opinion. I believe they should be $699 considering the Toshiba HD DVD player is $499 with superior specs to the Samsung BD player.

Note...I'm not talking about the relative worth of the BD platform just it's current launch pricing which I feel is exorbitant for unfinished players.

They're both mediocre pieces of hardware, regardless of price.

I'm sure you're one of the people doing cartwheels with Amir's spin and smear thread about the Samsung BR player at AVS right now. I'm sure you love that thread and consider it gospel truth like a few of the other HD-DVD fanboys and acolytes over there.



Samsung has NEVER made a good DVD player, so why should they start now? God knows Toshiba hasn't made a good one since the late 90's!


I still say that Samsung should have had this player come out at $799 to match the "higher end Toshiba HD-DVD player."
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No, I couldn't write that with a straight face.



LG, Toshiba, Samsung...all second rate companies to me.

My only beef with HD-DVD has nothing to do with the FORMAT itself...it's the fact that I have NO choice but to swallow sh***y hardware if I want to get to it. I know a lot of other people feel the same way I do.


With Blu-Ray, you're going to pay a hell of a lot more money upfront on hardware, but at least you get 80-90 percent studio support out of the gate, and I guaran-damn-tee you at least the Sony and the Elite players' hardware quality will smoke just about anything else out there. Hopefully the Panasonic does as well. They all SHOULD at >$1000+ price points.

You get what you pay for.

And I'm tired of seeing all of the cheapskating comments here and especially abroad:

For FIRST GENERATION, early adopter phase...$1500 MSRP to bring you in to the high end is pretty damned good vs. what we've seen in the past. I've never seen an Elite player come out at $1500 MSRP right off the bat, for example.

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

No they are not worth $1000 in my opinion. I believe they should be $699 considering the Toshiba HD DVD player is $499 with superior specs to the Samsung BD player.

Note...I'm not talking about the relative worth of the BD platform just it's current launch pricing which I feel is exorbitant for unfinished players.

Toshiba player with superior specs? How do you figure? Please be specific.

Moreover, how do you consider the Samsung an "unfinished player?" I also want to add that current launch pricing is right in line with what CD and DVD players were when they were first launched. It's called an early adoption market Murch, get a clue, and stop the incessant whining.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by marzetta7

Toshiba player with superior specs? How do you figure? Please be specific.

I keep seeing a few HD-DVD apologists' try and slip this one by and I have yet to see the statement qualified concretely and specifically, so don't hold your breath on waiting for an answer here, either.

Moreover, how do you consider the Samsung an "unfinished player?" I also want to add that current launch pricing is right in line with what CD and DVD players were when they were first launched. It's called an early adoption market Murch, get a clue, and stop the incessant whining.

Exactly right, although I will say this:

If the Samsung washes out as a mediocre BR player...is that really going to surprise anyone? Samsung has never yet made a good DVD player, so why should anything be different now?

Beyond that: First gen ANYTHING is going to have plenty of bumps and wrinkles of all kinds.

"Incomplete", to me, means no HDMI 1.3, no HD audio codecs in the players, and the rest of it.

[Sony1]

JTK why on earth are you always calling other peoples opinion as Toshiba Propaganda? It sounds to me like all this guy is trying to say is that the Samsung player is not worth 1000$. He wasnt knocking Blu-ray just the Samsung and you do this with allot of people on this forum!

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Sony1

JTK why on earth are you always calling other peoples opinion as Toshiba Propaganda? It sounds to me like all this guy is trying to say is that the Samsung player is not worth 1000$. He wasnt knocking Blu-ray just the Samsung and you do this with allot of people on this forum!

No, just people that are constantly dead wrong like you.

How's that Samsung BR player delay doing, dumb @$$? Why don't you make us another dumb @$$ FUD thread about that so you can show us all yet again just how ignorant you truly are?

Or are you finally finished embarassing yourself on a regular basis around here?

[zombie]

Alright guys, let's take it easy. Separate corners please. Let's agree to "take the high road" henceforward.

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by Sony1

JTK why on earth are you always calling other peoples opinion as Toshiba Propaganda? It sounds to me like all this guy is trying to say is that the Samsung player is not worth 1000$. He wasnt knocking Blu-ray just the Samsung and you do this with allot of people on this forum!

If you were aware of ol Murch's comments in other forums, then you would realize it is indeed Toshiba propaganda. Let's just say it equates to comments that exactly regurgitate what Amir from Microsoft says, verbatim.

What I'm trying to state is, is that $1,000 is very reasonable given that we are in an early adoption market in terms of HD player technology, especially given historical data. Not spouting off claims that the Samsung player is "unfinished" or that Toshiba's player is "superior" or that the Samsung player is not worth it based on.......nothing, but pure subjective propaganda.

[JTK]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=1785

Making threads like these is just pure lying and FUD outright.

The mods are the ones that corrected that title. A dime a dozen example from the same person, unfortuneately.

[Sony1]

Ya JTK your statement about the PS3 being 399$ was really on the money!!

[zombie]

Another thread went downhill.