How do convert someone to BD? - Blu-ray Forum

bdrex28 · 10-01-2007, 05:15 PM

Ok, so I post on a message board all the time that basically a University of Oklahoma football fan board. however this specific board is an "off topic" one. Meaning it's everything but sports.

A guy there posted this:

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"What will 1080P HDDVD look like on 1080i TV?

Is it even worth buying. I have two TV's that are 720P/1080i. Will an HD-DVD or Blu Ray even look better than a standard DVD on those TV's since my TV is only 1080i? Thanks."

He then posted this:

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My TV's are 37 inch and 60 inch.

I am referring to HD-DVD (toshiba brand player).

I do not want to invest in a new TV at this point just to get 1080P. My TV;s are not even 3 years old.

So a Toshiba HD-DVD player playing HD-DVD's on a 1080i TV will look noticably better correct?

What do you say to the guy?

Blu Tiger · 10-01-2007, 05:21 PM

Want to sway someone, huh? Give them $150 million dollars. That always seems to work.

alpinewiz · 10-01-2007, 05:22 PM

Be truthful! Tell him that both Blu-Ray and HD DVD will look better than his SD DVDs on those televisions. Then go into specs between Blu-Ray and HD DVD explaining the capacity of disc's and bit-rate issues. If he doesn't come around to the Blu side after that, sorry about his luck.

Mericalis · 10-01-2007, 05:25 PM

I know you are on the insiders page all the time...use some of the information there in your post back. Also...above all--BE POLITE!!! Even if he sees fit to stay HD-DUD.

bdrex28 · 10-01-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

Give them $150 million dollars. That always seems to work.

haha, that's hilarious.

w_tanoto · 10-01-2007, 05:26 PM

You can't easily convert HD DVD guys to support BD. Hell, no. It won't work easily. You can state the sales number, not just in US, but also international number. most likely won't work. Just like me, if someone tried to convert me to HD DVD, it won't work

Blu Tiger · 10-01-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alpinewiz

Be truthful! Tell him that both Blu-Ray and HD DVD will look better than his SD DVDs on those televisions. Then go into specs between Blu-Ray and HD DVD explaining the capacity of disc's and bit-rate issues. If he doesn't come around to the Blu side after that, sorry about his luck.

And then if the knowledge that blu-ray is selling better, has better specs, technology, & studio support doesn't work, offer him $150 million dollars.

alpinewiz · 10-01-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

And then if the knowledge that blu-ray is selling better, has better specs, technology, & studio support doesn't work, offer him $150 million dollars.

HEAR HEAR!!!

J6P · 10-01-2007, 05:32 PM

I love Blu-ray on my 46" 720p, absolutely. The difference is jaw-dropping.

Just tell him about the 4 pillars of blu dominance:

Capacity
Bandwidth
Sales
Studio Support

I learned those right here, and I mention them all the time.

buckshot · 10-01-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

Want to sway someone, huh? Give them $150 million dollars. That always seems to work.

hahaha I love it. but you can't just give him $150 million you have to make it like a mail in rebate. ''buy this player and get a $150,000,400 rebate.'' then you just hope they lose the receipt.

i'd tell him about the movies that are available on blu. there was a posting recently that showed 300 on dvd and hidef side by side where its easier to see the difference between upconverted dvd and hidef. I would link but i'm on my pda and that takes soooo long.

Sonny · 10-01-2007, 05:38 PM

I still have a 50'' Panny 2007 (silver, giving as gift this x-mas) 720/1080i that looks beautiful with all HD sorces & I cant see a real diffrents but everybody else can lol. My 32'' Panny looks beautiful also, the 1080p sets I have are just a plus, hope thet helps

bdrex28 · 10-01-2007, 05:45 PM

To be honest I'm not sure why he's buying a High Def media if he's NOT going to display it at 1080p.

Of course that's just my opinion and I know alot of people are different. But if I KNEW I wasn't going to get a new display I'd purchase an Oppo upconverter.

Sonny · 10-01-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bdrex28

To be honest I'm not sure why he's buying a High Def media if he's NOT going to display it at 1080p.

Of course that's just my opinion and I know alot of people are different. But if I KNEW I wasn't going to get a new display I'd purchase an Oppo upconverter.

SAD......

movies3 · 10-01-2007, 05:52 PM

Personally some ppl you cant convert over they will just have to learn the hard way....but put a blu-ray movie in like POTC and say oh yea HD DVD wont ever have this one lol studio support thats really what sold me

bdrex28 · 10-01-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

SAD......

I know

Hey, I'm a cheapie

Papi4baby · 10-01-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J6P

I love Blu-ray on my 46" 720p, absolutely. The difference is jaw-dropping.

Just tell him about the 4 pillars of blu dominance:

Capacity
Bandwidth
Sales
Studio Support

I learned those right here, and I mention them all the time.

Wow, great words. I would use this. Or having go to AVS and have his stomach turn a couple of times by the HDDVD guys, see how he feels after that.

bdrex28 · 10-01-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by movies3

Personally some ppl you cant convert over they will just have to learn the hard way....but put a blu-ray movie in like POTC and say oh yea HD DVD wont ever have this one lol studio support thats really what sold me

It's what sold me too.

In fact, the first time I put a blu-ray in I just laughed because the picture was so freaking amazing.

I didnt' have any response other than to laugh. My wife and daughter both flipped out in a good way as well.

Sonny · 10-01-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bdrex28

It's what sold me too.

In fact, the first time I put a blu-ray in I just laughed because the picture was so freaking amazing.

I didnt' have any response other than to laugh. My wife and daughter both flipped out in a good way as well.

I love that , I get that feeling every time I ''pop'' a BD in!!!! almost as good as OP's

Cyorg · 10-01-2007, 06:26 PM

Tell him going Blu-Ray will put more hair on his chest. He'll be taller and more attractive to women.

Make sure you let him know that buying HD-DVD is like having an eternal wedgy, and chicks don't dig wedgies.

dadkins · 10-01-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyorg

Tell him going Blu-Ray will put more hair on his chest. He'll be taller and more attractive to women.

Make sure you let him know that buying HD-DVD is like having an eternal wedgy, and chicks don't dig wedgies.

ROFLMAO!

10-01-2007, 05:32 PM	#9
J6P Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:117 Blu-ray collection:270	I love Blu-ray on my 46" 720p, absolutely. The difference is jaw-dropping. Just tell him about the 4 pillars of blu dominance: Capacity Bandwidth Sales Studio Support I learned those right here, and I mention them all the time.

10-01-2007, 05:38 PM	#11
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	I still have a 50'' Panny 2007 (silver, giving as gift this x-mas) 720/1080i that looks beautiful with all HD sorces & I cant see a real diffrents but everybody else can lol. My 32'' Panny looks beautiful also, the 1080p sets I have are just a plus, hope thet helps Last edited by Sonny; 10-01-2007 at 05:40 PM.

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10-01-2007, 05:21 PM	#2
Blu Tiger Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:725 Trading Score:27	Want to sway someone, huh? Give them $150 million dollars. That always seems to work.

10-01-2007, 05:22 PM	#3
alpinewiz Member Member since:Jul 2007 4K collection:33 Blu-ray collection:55 DVD collection:2	Be truthful! Tell him that both Blu-Ray and HD DVD will look better than his SD DVDs on those televisions. Then go into specs between Blu-Ray and HD DVD explaining the capacity of disc's and bit-rate issues. If he doesn't come around to the Blu side after that, sorry about his luck.

10-01-2007, 05:25 PM	#4
Mericalis Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Texas Blu-ray collection:232 DVD collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:5	I know you are on the insiders page all the time...use some of the information there in your post back. Also...above all--BE POLITE!!! Even if he sees fit to stay HD-DUD.

10-01-2007, 05:26 PM	#6
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	You can't easily convert HD DVD guys to support BD. Hell, no. It won't work easily. You can state the sales number, not just in US, but also international number. most likely won't work. Just like me, if someone tried to convert me to HD DVD, it won't work

10-01-2007, 05:45 PM	#12
bdrex28 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Edmond, OK Blu-ray reviews:4	To be honest I'm not sure why he's buying a High Def media if he's NOT going to display it at 1080p. Of course that's just my opinion and I know alot of people are different. But if I KNEW I wasn't going to get a new display I'd purchase an Oppo upconverter.

10-01-2007, 05:52 PM	#14
movies3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Location:KY Blu-ray collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:56	Personally some ppl you cant convert over they will just have to learn the hard way....but put a blu-ray movie in like POTC and say oh yea HD DVD wont ever have this one lol studio support thats really what sold me

10-01-2007, 06:26 PM	#19
Cyorg Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX. PSN ID: Cyorg Blu-ray collection:62 Blu-ray reviews:1	Tell him going Blu-Ray will put more hair on his chest. He'll be taller and more attractive to women. Make sure you let him know that buying HD-DVD is like having an eternal wedgy, and chicks don't dig wedgies.

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