Star Trek: The Next Generation (Seasons 1-7 & Complete Series out now) - Blu-ray Forum

adamclark83 · 12-13-2011, 08:25 AM

Will any Aussie Trek fans be getting these? If so, please get them.

An email from PHE has stated that whether they release the whole show here will depend on the sales, especially of Season 1.

Seasons:

Exclusives with JB Hi-Fi: Season Two (five 25th Anniversary art cards), seasons 5-7 will be available exclusively through them.

Movie-length Features:

Available exclusively at JB Hi-Fi.

Complete Series Box Set:

Available exclusively at JB Hi-Fi.

LordCrumb · 12-13-2011, 10:12 AM

huh sorry? are you saying they ARE coming out in 2012.. or asking if they are?

I'll only buy a complete season, not a sampler disc like what has been released internationally. I bought Season 1 of Star Trek TOS, but Season 2 and 3 never freaking came to NZ, so if they going to base it off sales, frak em, they either bring them all, or don't bring any at all.

adamclark83 · 12-13-2011, 10:20 AM

I'm saying they ARE coming out next year.

JB Hi-Fi here got in just seasons 1 and 2 of Star Trek: TOS. When I asked Paramount some time ago when season 3 is coming out, all they said was "We don't know."

I agree with you. They either release them all or not at all. I'm not going to start buying Beverly and Deanna on Blu-ray if they're only going to release a couple of seasons. And then Paramount will wonder why no one's buying them.

SubElement · 12-13-2011, 11:43 AM

From what we discussed in a thread on TOS Season 3 will never see a realease here becuase the sales of the original two didn't warrent the third supposedly...

I'm suprised they're doing it TBH...

adamclark83 · 12-14-2011, 08:10 AM

Wasn't it because of the price of them?

LordCrumb · 12-14-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamclark83

Wasn't it because of the price of them?

Maybe in Australia.. but when Season One came out over here in NZ, it was 24.95 lol.. if season 2 and 3 had been that price, they would have sold crap loads. They need to way up price vs quantity imo. Price too high = no sale, price too low = no profit... price just right = whammo

adamclark83 · 12-15-2011, 08:31 AM

I remember when the TNG DVD box sets first came out, they were about $200each. I said "I'm not paying that much."

But a few years ago they had a sale where TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY sets were selling for $80 each. I then snapped up every single season I didn't have, not on the one trip mind.

One time I went into Big W and asked the entertainment counter attendant which seasons of DS9 they had. She said "seasons 3, 4, 6 and 7" so I picked up all four.

If it wasn't for that sale, it would've been very different.

gettodamoofies · 12-15-2011, 11:09 AM

If Paramount's listening then there's a very easy way to get Aussies to buy your releases: stop charging twice as much for the same thing.

I don't think Aussies are any more gullible than people from anywhere else so why Paramount thinks it's cool to whack such high prices on the titles is beyond me. Seriously, season 1 & 2 of TOS were $120+ in JB on release (and have rarely gone sub-$100 since) yet the US release which looks exactly the same save for the lack of ratings logos was about $67 delivered.

Australia is, as far as I recall, a large market for Star Trek and yet Paramount doesn't seemed to have cottoned on to the fact that what worked 10 years back when the shows were just getting their DVD releases doesn't work now. Exchange rates have improved and there's much larger participation in the global marketplace. There's no reason we as consumers should pay that much when Paramount's discs are region free and therefore have the same content.

Their releases are consistently more expensive and consistently take longer to go on sale. Unlike WB, Sony and Universal we've never seen Paramount titles in 2 for $20 sales. Until about a year back they'd never even been in 2 for $30 sales. They'd only occasionally go sub-$20.

I'll be buying TNG all right but I won't be getting stung for the "privilege". This will be my third time buying TNG so I won't be spending any more than I have to. Make our local price reasonable and I'll buy here - make it an insult to local consumers and myself and others will (with good reason) take our business elsewhere.

Oh, and for the love of God release the things at the same time as the US and UK! Paramount's missed the boat so many times by dragging the chain with releases and also cancelling releases mid-way (such as TOS), the result being either making people import to get them early or alienating the local market by stiffing them on the ability to buy a complete set locally.

My 2 cents...

adamclark83 · 12-16-2011, 08:34 AM

Love your post atexp80. Could I send that to Paramount and see what they say?

adamclark83 · 01-23-2012, 08:08 AM

Good news Trekkies.

I spoke to Paramount today and they said that both the sampler disc and complete first season will be released in July. I asked them why the two of them are released the same month and the attendant said she didn't know. She was just going with the email she was sent.

LordCrumb · 01-23-2012, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamclark83

Good news Trekkies.

I spoke to Paramount today and they said that both the sampler disc and complete first season will be released in July. I asked them why the two of them are released the same month and the attendant said she didn't know. She was just going with the email she was sent.

Cool, I'm expecting a price around $89 for each season.

stevo4264 · 01-24-2012, 06:25 AM

So, all we do now is wait and see what price they put on this.
I really do expect it will be cheaper to import but they could prove me wrong.
Might just stick it on Price Tracker and Wait...6 months or so

adamclark83 · 01-26-2012, 08:39 AM

I'll contact Paramount tomorrow and mention to them that sales of these sets won't be good if they are too expensive, like what happened with TOS.

LordCrumb · 01-26-2012, 09:54 AM

I hope they don't change the packaging half way through bringing them out (LOST, True Blood anyone?!). I hate it when that happens.

adamclark83 · 01-26-2012, 10:50 AM

I like consistent packaging with my box sets.

adamclark83 · 01-31-2012, 10:48 AM

I sent a letter to Paramount yesterday. I just have to wait for a reply.

hawkangel · 02-05-2012, 10:40 AM

I'll just import them. I've already received confirmation that the Sampler disc is on its way from amazon.

Lutz · 02-17-2012, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atexp80

If Paramount's listening then there's a very easy way to get Aussies to buy your releases: stop charging twice as much for the same thing.

I don't think Aussies are any more gullible than people from anywhere else so why Paramount thinks it's cool to whack such high prices on the titles is beyond me. Seriously, season 1 & 2 of TOS were $120+ in JB on release (and have rarely gone sub-$100 since) yet the US release which looks exactly the same save for the lack of ratings logos was about $67 delivered.

Australia is, as far as I recall, a large market for Star Trek and yet Paramount doesn't seemed to have cottoned on to the fact that what worked 10 years back when the shows were just getting their DVD releases doesn't work now. Exchange rates have improved and there's much larger participation in the global marketplace. There's no reason we as consumers should pay that much when Paramount's discs are region free and therefore have the same content.

Their releases are consistently more expensive and consistently take longer to go on sale. Unlike WB, Sony and Universal we've never seen Paramount titles in 2 for $20 sales. Until about a year back they'd never even been in 2 for $30 sales. They'd only occasionally go sub-$20.

I'll be buying TNG all right but I won't be getting stung for the "privilege". This will be my third time buying TNG so I won't be spending any more than I have to. Make our local price reasonable and I'll buy here - make it an insult to local consumers and myself and others will (with good reason) take our business elsewhere.

Oh, and for the love of God release the things at the same time as the US and UK! Paramount's missed the boat so many times by dragging the chain with releases and also cancelling releases mid-way (such as TOS), the result being either making people import to get them early or alienating the local market by stiffing them on the ability to buy a complete set locally.

My 2 cents...

This is an ongoing theme in anything to do with our entertainment industry. You could also substitute Australian releases with Australian TV and International releases with downloading.

The real deal breaker for me are the UGLY rating signs that take up a huge portion of our packaging. We're not buying cigarettes!

adamclark83 · 02-23-2012, 01:19 AM

Everyone, I got a letter back from Paramount this morning regarding the Blu-ray release of this series.

"Hi Adam,

Thank you for your letter. We very much appreciate the time you've taken to write to us. Your feedback has been taken into consideration. Please find enclosed a token of our gratitude for your support.

You've raised concerns about pricing and I think you and Star Trek fans will be pleased to see that the retail price will be at a much more accessible price point than previous new releases. We can't divulge any specific details as of yet.

As for the release of the rest of the series, you will be pleased to hear that Season 2 is already being planned for release and if Star Trek fans support these titles, there should be no reason why the whole series shouldn't follow.

Once again, your support is much appreciated.

Regards,

Guy Rob

Paramount Home Entertainment Australia
Assistant Brand Manager - Catalogue & Televison."

LordCrumb · 02-23-2012, 02:32 AM

That's a good sign, thanks for posting that. I still think it will be around 70-80 (80-90 in NZ)... fingers crossed though.

12-13-2011, 08:25 AM	#1
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	Star Trek: The Next Generation (Seasons 1-7 & Complete Series out now) Will any Aussie Trek fans be getting these? If so, please get them. An email from PHE has stated that whether they release the whole show here will depend on the sales, especially of Season 1. Seasons: Exclusives with JB Hi-Fi: Season Two (five 25th Anniversary art cards), seasons 5-7 will be available exclusively through them. Movie-length Features: Available exclusively at JB Hi-Fi. Complete Series Box Set: Available exclusively at JB Hi-Fi. Last edited by gettodamoofies; 12-29-2014 at 06:34 PM. Reason: Updating thread title

12-13-2011, 10:12 AM	#2
LordCrumb Moderator Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:New Zealand Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:405 Blu-ray collection:2924 DVD collection:109 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:67	huh sorry? are you saying they ARE coming out in 2012.. or asking if they are? I'll only buy a complete season, not a sampler disc like what has been released internationally. I bought Season 1 of Star Trek TOS, but Season 2 and 3 never freaking came to NZ, so if they going to base it off sales, frak em, they either bring them all, or don't bring any at all.

12-13-2011, 10:20 AM	#3
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	I'm saying they ARE coming out next year. JB Hi-Fi here got in just seasons 1 and 2 of Star Trek: TOS. When I asked Paramount some time ago when season 3 is coming out, all they said was "We don't know." I agree with you. They either release them all or not at all. I'm not going to start buying Beverly and Deanna on Blu-ray if they're only going to release a couple of seasons. And then Paramount will wonder why no one's buying them.

12-13-2011, 11:43 AM	#4
SubElement Senior Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Australia	From what we discussed in a thread on TOS Season 3 will never see a realease here becuase the sales of the original two didn't warrent the third supposedly... I'm suprised they're doing it TBH...

12-14-2011, 08:10 AM	#5
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	Wasn't it because of the price of them?

12-15-2011, 08:31 AM	#7
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	I remember when the TNG DVD box sets first came out, they were about $200each. I said "I'm not paying that much." But a few years ago they had a sale where TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY sets were selling for $80 each. I then snapped up every single season I didn't have, not on the one trip mind. One time I went into Big W and asked the entertainment counter attendant which seasons of DS9 they had. She said "seasons 3, 4, 6 and 7" so I picked up all four. If it wasn't for that sale, it would've been very different.

12-15-2011, 11:09 AM	#8
gettodamoofies Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Location:NSW, Australia 4K collection:609 Blu-ray collection:3162 DVD collection:125 Blu-ray reviews: 26 Trading Score:91	If Paramount's listening then there's a very easy way to get Aussies to buy your releases: stop charging twice as much for the same thing. I don't think Aussies are any more gullible than people from anywhere else so why Paramount thinks it's cool to whack such high prices on the titles is beyond me. Seriously, season 1 & 2 of TOS were $120+ in JB on release (and have rarely gone sub-$100 since) yet the US release which looks exactly the same save for the lack of ratings logos was about $67 delivered. Australia is, as far as I recall, a large market for Star Trek and yet Paramount doesn't seemed to have cottoned on to the fact that what worked 10 years back when the shows were just getting their DVD releases doesn't work now. Exchange rates have improved and there's much larger participation in the global marketplace. There's no reason we as consumers should pay that much when Paramount's discs are region free and therefore have the same content. Their releases are consistently more expensive and consistently take longer to go on sale. Unlike WB, Sony and Universal we've never seen Paramount titles in 2 for $20 sales. Until about a year back they'd never even been in 2 for $30 sales. They'd only occasionally go sub-$20. I'll be buying TNG all right but I won't be getting stung for the "privilege". This will be my third time buying TNG so I won't be spending any more than I have to. Make our local price reasonable and I'll buy here - make it an insult to local consumers and myself and others will (with good reason) take our business elsewhere. Oh, and for the love of God release the things at the same time as the US and UK! Paramount's missed the boat so many times by dragging the chain with releases and also cancelling releases mid-way (such as TOS), the result being either making people import to get them early or alienating the local market by stiffing them on the ability to buy a complete set locally. My 2 cents...

12-16-2011, 08:34 AM	#9
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	Love your post atexp80. Could I send that to Paramount and see what they say?

01-23-2012, 08:08 AM	#10
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	Good news Trekkies. I spoke to Paramount today and they said that both the sampler disc and complete first season will be released in July. I asked them why the two of them are released the same month and the attendant said she didn't know. She was just going with the email she was sent.

01-24-2012, 06:25 AM	#12
stevo4264 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Out There 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:899 Trading Score:7	So, all we do now is wait and see what price they put on this. I really do expect it will be cheaper to import but they could prove me wrong. Might just stick it on Price Tracker and Wait...6 months or so

01-26-2012, 08:39 AM	#13
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	I'll contact Paramount tomorrow and mention to them that sales of these sets won't be good if they are too expensive, like what happened with TOS.

01-26-2012, 09:54 AM	#14
LordCrumb Moderator Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:New Zealand Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:405 Blu-ray collection:2924 DVD collection:109 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:67	I hope they don't change the packaging half way through bringing them out (LOST, True Blood anyone?!). I hate it when that happens.

01-26-2012, 10:50 AM	#15
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	I like consistent packaging with my box sets.

01-31-2012, 10:48 AM	#16
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	I sent a letter to Paramount yesterday. I just have to wait for a reply.

02-05-2012, 10:40 AM	#17
hawkangel Active Member Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Sydney, AUSTRALIA 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:323 Trading Score:2	I'll just import them. I've already received confirmation that the Sampler disc is on its way from amazon.

02-23-2012, 01:19 AM	#19
adamclark83 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1418 DVD collection:1245	Everyone, I got a letter back from Paramount this morning regarding the Blu-ray release of this series. "Hi Adam, Thank you for your letter. We very much appreciate the time you've taken to write to us. Your feedback has been taken into consideration. Please find enclosed a token of our gratitude for your support. You've raised concerns about pricing and I think you and Star Trek fans will be pleased to see that the retail price will be at a much more accessible price point than previous new releases. We can't divulge any specific details as of yet. As for the release of the rest of the series, you will be pleased to hear that Season 2 is already being planned for release and if Star Trek fans support these titles, there should be no reason why the whole series shouldn't follow. Once again, your support is much appreciated. Regards, Guy Rob Paramount Home Entertainment Australia Assistant Brand Manager - Catalogue & Televison."

02-23-2012, 02:32 AM	#20
LordCrumb Moderator Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:New Zealand Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:405 Blu-ray collection:2924 DVD collection:109 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:67	That's a good sign, thanks for posting that. I still think it will be around 70-80 (80-90 in NZ)... fingers crossed though.

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