To anybody who might still be upset about the Paramount deal... - Blu-ray Forum

Nick Graham · 10-09-2007, 09:14 PM

I present Stardust, the third major day-and-date release in a row not to have lossless audio, after Transformers and Shrek 3. If a studio is too cheap to put lossless on a $39.99 release (and with the running times, it doesn't appear to be a space issue), then I don't think you Blu-only folks are missing much. Maybe in 18 months they will have their act together.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._December/1049

SS316SRV · 10-09-2007, 09:15 PM

I have already filed "Paramount's Sell-out to HD DVD" in the 'Let's Move on Drawer".

Footloose301 · 10-09-2007, 09:16 PM

Awesome. Good for them. Let them enjoy DD+.

Meanwhile, I'll enjoy some PCM. Its like dessert, you can never have too much

Blu-dock Saint · 10-09-2007, 09:16 PM

I doubt this film will even sell that well, I went and saw it, didnt really think much of it.

As to the whole paramount hi def disc stuff, I was not really even pleased with any of their releases on blu, never really had a transfer that impressed me.

Nick Graham · 10-09-2007, 09:19 PM

It's good to see them putting that $150 million to work......

E-Dogg · 10-09-2007, 09:26 PM

Besides Transformers were there really any other titles that anyone was really that upset about losing? They reaped what they sow and will go down with a shinking ship as we all know.

cathexist · 10-09-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301

Awesome. Good for them. Let them enjoy DD+.

Meanwhile, I'll enjoy some PCM. Its like dessert, you can never have too much

Until you throw up?

Blu Tiger · 10-09-2007, 09:33 PM

Never even heard of that movie. Paramount...Shmaramount.

Beta-guy · 10-09-2007, 09:38 PM

Stardust was a wonderful film, it had a little bit of everything.... robert de niro was a bit odd, but it was an enjoyable film, I'm disappointed it's going to be on HD-DVD

SS316SRV · 10-09-2007, 09:39 PM

Paramount is dead to me.

davidPS3 · 10-09-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

I have already filed "Paramount's Sell-out to HD DVD" in the 'Let's Move on Drawer".

I agree, time to move on and let this go. Revisit and get excited in about 16 months or so.

gand41f · 10-09-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Graham

I present Stardust, the third major day-and-date release in a row not to have lossless audio, after Transformers and Shrek 3. If a studio is too cheap to put lossless on a $39.99 release (and with the running times, it doesn't appear to be a space issue), then I don't think you Blu-only folks are missing much. Maybe in 18 months they will have their act together.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._December/1049

I agree with you, but I think it's mostly a bandwidth issue, not space.

enjoy
gandalf

Beta-guy · 10-09-2007, 09:51 PM

I have a hunch that Paramount will buy out thier contract b4 the 18 months is up...

lets theorize, in the 4Q this year Blu-ray sales continue to increase, and more businesses go BD exclusive, come January after Warner has analyzed the sales figures see BD was winner by a fair margin and they switch to BD. Universal after a couple months switches to BD or neutral, if this all happens the only Exclusive studio HD-DVD will have possible only studio they'll have is Paramount/Dreamworks, they'll hold out likely for about 6 months with lots of releases, but finally realizing HD-DVD is dead.

that's just how I think it's going to play out I don't have any inside information or anything (don't go making rumors about this)

blublublu · 10-09-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta-guy

Stardust was a wonderful film, it had a little bit of everything.... robert de niro was a bit odd, but it was an enjoyable film, I'm disappointed it's going to be on HD-DVD

I agree it was quite good... MUCH better than most of the this summers sequels suitable for family viewing (Potter, Pirates, Shrek, etc).

Ah well. I'll watch on HD when it comes to one of HD movie channels that I subscribe to.

Bombthroat · 10-09-2007, 10:27 PM

Supposedly the technical people at Paramount much preferred Blu-ray. I believe the lack of lossless audio is a thumb in the eye of HD DUD by the techies at Paramount. I'm looking forward to when they come back to Blu-ray. Hopefully we'll receive a nice reencode of Transformers with lossless audio to make up for it not being released on time.

The rat, er, A-man has already left the ship. It's pretty clear to everyone but the fanbois that S.S. HD DUD is taking on copious amounts of water.

phloyd · 10-09-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Graham

(and with the running times, it doesn't appear to be a space issue),

I believe it is a space issue.

It was with Blades of Glory. The BD was to have lossless audio.

The HD DVD is packed full and they only dedicate less than 18GB to the feature.

HD extras chew up space - HD DVD was not designed to handle extras in HD...

Blu-Light · 10-09-2007, 10:44 PM

HD-DUD: The look and sound of not quite as good as blu-ray but good enough for most of the nut cases that support the format like savage, foaming at the mouth, rabid dogs. You just wait til we have TL51 discs and new players.

blu-fett · 10-09-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Dogg

Besides Transformers were there really any other titles that anyone was really that upset about losing? They reaped what they sow and will go down with a shinking ship as we all know.

Yeah, I was kinda looking forward to the Jack Ryan box set (or atleast Red October & Patriot Games).

GTP · 10-10-2007, 12:58 AM

Parawho?

w_tanoto · 10-10-2007, 01:01 AM

nobody can expect lossless audio on 30GB. lol to hd dvd. I bet we can put lossless VIDEO into 100GB/200GB disc

10-09-2007, 09:14 PM	#1
Nick Graham Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:345 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:1	To anybody who might still be upset about the Paramount deal... I present Stardust, the third major day-and-date release in a row not to have lossless audio, after Transformers and Shrek 3. If a studio is too cheap to put lossless on a $39.99 release (and with the running times, it doesn't appear to be a space issue), then I don't think you Blu-only folks are missing much. Maybe in 18 months they will have their act together. http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._December/1049 Last edited by Nick Graham; 10-09-2007 at 09:17 PM.

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10-09-2007, 09:15 PM	#2
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	I have already filed "Paramount's Sell-out to HD DVD" in the 'Let's Move on Drawer".

10-09-2007, 09:16 PM	#3
Footloose301 Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Fort Myers, FL Home Theater Gallery:38 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Awesome. Good for them. Let them enjoy DD+. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy some PCM. Its like dessert, you can never have too much

10-09-2007, 09:16 PM	#4
Blu-dock Saint Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Michigan Blu-ray collection:47 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:67	I doubt this film will even sell that well, I went and saw it, didnt really think much of it. As to the whole paramount hi def disc stuff, I was not really even pleased with any of their releases on blu, never really had a transfer that impressed me.

10-09-2007, 09:19 PM	#5
Nick Graham Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:345 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:1	It's good to see them putting that $150 million to work......

10-09-2007, 09:26 PM	#6
E-Dogg Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:159	Besides Transformers were there really any other titles that anyone was really that upset about losing? They reaped what they sow and will go down with a shinking ship as we all know.

10-09-2007, 09:33 PM	#8
Blu Tiger Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:725 Trading Score:27	Never even heard of that movie. Paramount...Shmaramount.

10-09-2007, 09:38 PM	#9
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	Stardust was a wonderful film, it had a little bit of everything.... robert de niro was a bit odd, but it was an enjoyable film, I'm disappointed it's going to be on HD-DVD

10-09-2007, 09:39 PM	#10
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Paramount is dead to me.

10-09-2007, 09:51 PM	#13
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	I have a hunch that Paramount will buy out thier contract b4 the 18 months is up... lets theorize, in the 4Q this year Blu-ray sales continue to increase, and more businesses go BD exclusive, come January after Warner has analyzed the sales figures see BD was winner by a fair margin and they switch to BD. Universal after a couple months switches to BD or neutral, if this all happens the only Exclusive studio HD-DVD will have possible only studio they'll have is Paramount/Dreamworks, they'll hold out likely for about 6 months with lots of releases, but finally realizing HD-DVD is dead. that's just how I think it's going to play out I don't have any inside information or anything (don't go making rumors about this)

10-09-2007, 10:27 PM	#15
Bombthroat Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Supposedly the technical people at Paramount much preferred Blu-ray. I believe the lack of lossless audio is a thumb in the eye of HD DUD by the techies at Paramount. I'm looking forward to when they come back to Blu-ray. Hopefully we'll receive a nice reencode of Transformers with lossless audio to make up for it not being released on time. The rat, er, A-man has already left the ship. It's pretty clear to everyone but the fanbois that S.S. HD DUD is taking on copious amounts of water.

10-09-2007, 10:44 PM	#17
Blu-Light Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006	HD-DUD: The look and sound of not quite as good as blu-ray but good enough for most of the nut cases that support the format like savage, foaming at the mouth, rabid dogs. You just wait til we have TL51 discs and new players.

10-10-2007, 12:58 AM	#19
GTP Expert Member Member since:Jan 2006 Trading Score:1	Parawho?

10-10-2007, 01:01 AM	#20
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	nobody can expect lossless audio on 30GB. lol to hd dvd. I bet we can put lossless VIDEO into 100GB/200GB disc

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