Speaker/reciever help - Blu-ray Forum

parklyfe · 10-10-2007, 09:14 PM

ok so i have a ps3,hdtv,receiver, 2 hdmi cords, and 2 floor speakers (getting the surround soon)

help me hook it up right so the sound will come out of my floor speakers and not my tv. I know basics of home theater but still new. if people could write walkthroughs for me it would be nice.

I have 3 hdmi inputs on my tv
2 hdmi inputs on my receiver and 1 hdmi out

thx

SS316SRV · 10-10-2007, 09:30 PM

PS3 to Receiver with HDMI (choose an input it doesn't matter - The DVD input might be easier to remember). Receiver to TV with HDMI. Speakers to receiver with speaker-wire. Mute TV, or turn off TV speakers in TV's menu.

Done.

Memnoch · 10-10-2007, 09:41 PM

HHHHhhhmmm ...

That is a pretty loaded request, but I can try to give you an overview.

I normally deal with the speakers first. I place all the speakers where I want them, then run wire from where the receiver is going to be to each speaker. I have a 7.1 system, so that is wiring from seven speakers to the receiver, then one much bigger wire from the subwoofer to the receiver.

After that is in place, I run HDMI out from my PS3 to the HDMI In on the receiver. I also have my Wii running component cables to my receiver. I then run one HDMI cable out from my receiver to the HDMI In on my TV. If you have any Sat/Cable equipment, you can run them via HDMI In to your receiver as well. I pretty much have all cords running to my receiver, then one HDMI cord to the TV.

The worst part is about to happen, you have to mess with all your stuff until it works. I start with the TV first, see if audio and sound work. The Wii is next. You always have to assign each device to something on the receiver. For example, I have my PS3 set to DVD and my Wii set to Game. So when I turn on my receiver, I press DVD on the receiver remote if I want to use the PS3 and I press Game on the remote if I want to play the Wii.

I have an Onkyo 605, so in the setup on the 605, I had to select each HDMI input and set the one output to the TV. None of the connections worked until I did that. I also had to set the PS3 to output audio and video via HDMI with PCM. I had to set the TV to recognize the receiver as an input, so when I watch the TV, I either select TV to watch stuff coming in from the cable cord direct to my TV, or I select Receiver, and it will let me see what is coming through the HDMI from the receiver.

I also test the speakers to make sure they all work. I have a NIN: BSYIT Blu-Ray I use for this, since it has a speaker setup option that tests all the main speakers (5.1). I also run the test that is on the Onkyo to see if the remaining 2 speakers work (7.1) for good measure. Many music or major release DVDs also have this feature (like Star Wars).

That is a pretty vague overview, but hopefully it will help put the big picture in perspective. Every receiver and TV is different, so you end up having to mess with them for an hour or two before everything gets up and running correctly. Good luck.

parklyfe · 10-11-2007, 01:50 AM

yea i still cant get it to work correctly, hooking it up is simple its the settings i cant figure out.

if this helps any my models are

TV: Sharp LC-46D82U
Receiver: Pioneer VSX-917V
Blu-Ray Player: Sony PS3

crackinhedz · 10-11-2007, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parklyfe

yea i still cant get it to work correctly, hooking it up is simple its the settings i cant figure out.

if this helps any my models are

TV: Sharp LC-46D82U
Receiver: Pioneer VSX-917V
Blu-Ray Player: Sony PS3

unfortunately your receiver is a "passthrough" system...which means it only passes video and does not accept HDMI audio. You my friend, will have to use an optical cable and set the ps3 to bitstream.

Connect the HDMI from PS3 to your TV, and an optical cable from the PS3 to your receiver.

On your PS3 make sure you set:

Settings - Sound Settings - Audio Output Settings - Digital Out (Optical)

then...

Settings - BD/DVD Settings - BD Audio Output Format (Optical Digital) - Bitstream

and on your receiver just designate the optical intput.

parklyfe · 10-11-2007, 03:59 AM

thx for telling me tht its only video. Its the last time i listen to the so called experts at bestbuy. Im returning it tomorrow because its a piece of crap anyway. The right side speaker sounds like crap. (not the speaker tried several different ones in both right and left and they sound fine in left but very static when used as the right.

Any sugesttions on wht receiver i should get instead, 500$ and below and i want one that converts hdmi audio also

thx

Brain Sturgeon · 10-11-2007, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parklyfe

thx for telling me tht its only video. Its the last time i listen to the so called experts at bestbuy. Im returning it tomorrow because its a piece of crap anyway. The right side speaker sounds like crap. (not the speaker tried several different ones in both right and left and they sound fine in left but very static when used as the right.

Any sugesttions on wht receiver i should get instead, 500$ and below and i want one that converts hdmi audio also

thx

The answer to this question is pretty much always the Onkyo TX-SR605. I don't own one, but have seen it and read specs on it. It is very classy looking and does pretty much everything a HDM owner would want it to do (HDMI PCM audio input & 1080p video passthrough, TrueHD & DTS-HD MA bitstream processing, 7.1 outputs). Most everyone i've seen post here about it raves about it, and it can be had for around $400 if you look hard enough.

Good luck!

crackinhedz · 10-11-2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parklyfe

Any sugesttions on wht receiver i should get instead, 500$ and below and i want one that converts hdmi audio also

thx

Onkyo TX-SR605 ($400)

Yamaha RX-V661 ($500)

either of these badboys will do what you need.

Footloose301 · 10-11-2007, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

Onkyo TX-SR605 ($400)

Yamaha RX-V661 ($500)

either of these badboys will do what you need.

Dont get the Yamaha since it costs more and is only HDMI v1.2

crackinhedz · 10-11-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301

Dont get the Yamaha since it costs more and is only HDMI v1.2

um...it has a BurrBrown DAC's and can matrix 5.1 Lossless into 7.1 (Onkyo does not)

PS3 will never pass a bitstream lossless track, so hdmi v1.2 is plenty.

Please make a valid argument.

Footloose301 · 10-11-2007, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

um...it has a BurrBrown DAC's and can matrix 5.1 Lossless into 7.1 (Onkyo does not)

PS3 will never pass a bitstream lossless track, so hdmi v1.2 is plenty.

Please make a valid argument.

First off its costs more. I think the cheaper would be better for him. Also the Yamaha lacks DTS HD, and TrueHD, among other things. The Onkyo offers more for a lesser price.

Besides, why offer the guy a receiver with HDMI v1.2 when v1.3 is the future? Thats like talking somebody into a first gen Blu-ray player after Profile 2.0 comes out.

crackinhedz · 10-11-2007, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301

First off its costs more. I think the cheaper would be better for him. Also the Yamaha lacks DTS HD among other things. The Onkyo offers more for a lesser price.

Besides, why offer the guy a receiver with HDMI v1.2 when v1.3 is the future? Thats like talking somebody into a first gen Blu-ray player after Profile 2.0 comes out.

Yamaha lacks DTS-HD? please tell me how the PS3 will send DTS-HD to the yamaha?

HDMIv1.3 is the future? How future? show me some deep color Bluray titles.

...or even reference to when one might be available?

Exactly.

The OP has a Sharp LC-46D82U (HDMI v1.2)...what advantage would a 1.3 receiver have for him? Nothing. The PS3 can only send Lossless audio via PCM anyways.

now the question is, do you want the BurrBrown DAC's and 5.1 into 7.1 matrix ability? or the HDMI v1.3??

Footloose301 · 10-11-2007, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

Yamaha lacks DTS-HD? please tell me how the PS3 will send DTS-HD to the yamaha?

HDMIv1.3 is the future? How future? show me some deep color Bluray titles.

...or even reference to when one might be available?

Exactly.

The OP has a Sharp LC-46D82U (HDMI v1.2)...what advantage would a 1.3 receiver have for him? Nothing. The PS3 can only send Lossless audio via PCM anyways.

now the question is, do you want the BurrBrown DAC's and 5.1 into 7.1 matrix ability? or the HDMI v1.3??

You missed the entire point while getting all defensive.

The key words in my posts were "cost" and "future".
1. Cost- Self explanatory
2. Future- Onkyo has more room for expansion.

What if the OP wants to upgrade his tv? What happens then? Or if he gets a different Blu-ray player? Its like when movies started becoming 7.1ch and people only had 5.1ch receivers. They had to buy new receivers. The matrixing is not that important. 5.1ch PCM sounds great as is and with both receiver he stills has 7.1ch audio. I don't know about you but I like to buy things once. I don't want to have to buy a new receiver + tv when new technology arrives. The PS3 is ready with HDMI v1.3, why not match it? The OP is going to be seriously limited when he upgrades his tv or something changes.

And since neither of us are going to agree because we're both stating opinions, the OP will have to choose himself. Nonetheless he'll be happy with either receiver.

crackinhedz · 10-11-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301

Nonetheless he'll be happy with either receiver.

ding ding ding.

thats why I offered both...they each have good qualities and for the price cant be beaten.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

Onkyo TX-SR605 ($400)

Yamaha RX-V661 ($500)

either of these badboys will do what you need.

parklyfe · 10-11-2007, 11:58 PM

thx guys, i just picked up the onkyo gonna hook it up now ill let you guys know wht i think.

parklyfe · 10-12-2007, 12:49 AM

the onkyo sounds great, finally got it to work

more questions now should i set the ps3 to bitstream or pcm (dont really care why just tell me whats better) thx

and also if i want to have the regular tv (cable) come through the speakers i need a 3rd HDMI cable correct?

also on the music settings on the ps3 what type of bitmapping is best and whts the best frquency to have it set at (48 khz or 44.1/88.2/176.4 khz)

thx for the help

Ex Accountant · 10-12-2007, 01:06 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen, I have a related question. I remember being told that if you want the best video signal possible, you should hook your dvd player/PS3 directly to your television rather than go through your receiver because the more obstacles you introduce along the way, the more possible signal degradation. Of course, you could then hook the PS3 audio to the receiver for surround.

Is this true? And if it is true, would the naked eye notice the difference?

Footloose301 · 10-12-2007, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex Accountant

Ladies & Gentlemen, I have a related question. I remember being told that if you want the best video signal possible, you should hook your dvd player/PS3 directly to your television rather than go through your receiver because the more obstacles you introduce along the way, the more possible signal degradation. Of course, you could then hook the PS3 audio to the receiver for surround.

Is this true? And if it is true, would the naked eye notice the difference?

Not true. You won't lose anything by running it thru the receiver. Sometimes component connections are down converted to 720 or 480, but 1080P stays 1080P with an HDMI connection.

Footloose301 · 10-12-2007, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parklyfe

the onkyo sounds great, finally got it to work

more questions now should i set the ps3 to bitstream or pcm (dont really care why just tell me whats better) thx

and also if i want to have the regular tv (cable) come through the speakers i need a 3rd HDMI cable correct?

also on the music settings on the ps3 what type of bitmapping is best and whts the best frquency to have it set at (48 khz or 44.1/88.2/176.4 khz)

thx for the help

PCM.

dobyblue · 10-12-2007, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex Accountant

Ladies & Gentlemen, I have a related question. I remember being told that if you want the best video signal possible, you should hook your dvd player/PS3 directly to your television rather than go through your receiver because the more obstacles you introduce along the way, the more possible signal degradation. Of course, you could then hook the PS3 audio to the receiver for surround.

Is this true? And if it is true, would the naked eye notice the difference?

Definitely not true.

10-10-2007, 09:14 PM	#1
parklyfe Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Red Sox Nation Blu-ray reviews:2	Speaker/reciever help ok so i have a ps3,hdtv,receiver, 2 hdmi cords, and 2 floor speakers (getting the surround soon) help me hook it up right so the sound will come out of my floor speakers and not my tv. I know basics of home theater but still new. if people could write walkthroughs for me it would be nice. I have 3 hdmi inputs on my tv 2 hdmi inputs on my receiver and 1 hdmi out thx

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10-10-2007, 09:30 PM	#2
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	PS3 to Receiver with HDMI (choose an input it doesn't matter - The DVD input might be easier to remember). Receiver to TV with HDMI. Speakers to receiver with speaker-wire. Mute TV, or turn off TV speakers in TV's menu. Done.

10-10-2007, 09:41 PM	#3
Memnoch Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Northern VA 4K collection:185 Blu-ray collection:185 Trading Score:1	HHHHhhhmmm ... That is a pretty loaded request, but I can try to give you an overview. I normally deal with the speakers first. I place all the speakers where I want them, then run wire from where the receiver is going to be to each speaker. I have a 7.1 system, so that is wiring from seven speakers to the receiver, then one much bigger wire from the subwoofer to the receiver. After that is in place, I run HDMI out from my PS3 to the HDMI In on the receiver. I also have my Wii running component cables to my receiver. I then run one HDMI cable out from my receiver to the HDMI In on my TV. If you have any Sat/Cable equipment, you can run them via HDMI In to your receiver as well. I pretty much have all cords running to my receiver, then one HDMI cord to the TV. The worst part is about to happen, you have to mess with all your stuff until it works. I start with the TV first, see if audio and sound work. The Wii is next. You always have to assign each device to something on the receiver. For example, I have my PS3 set to DVD and my Wii set to Game. So when I turn on my receiver, I press DVD on the receiver remote if I want to use the PS3 and I press Game on the remote if I want to play the Wii. I have an Onkyo 605, so in the setup on the 605, I had to select each HDMI input and set the one output to the TV. None of the connections worked until I did that. I also had to set the PS3 to output audio and video via HDMI with PCM. I had to set the TV to recognize the receiver as an input, so when I watch the TV, I either select TV to watch stuff coming in from the cable cord direct to my TV, or I select Receiver, and it will let me see what is coming through the HDMI from the receiver. I also test the speakers to make sure they all work. I have a NIN: BSYIT Blu-Ray I use for this, since it has a speaker setup option that tests all the main speakers (5.1). I also run the test that is on the Onkyo to see if the remaining 2 speakers work (7.1) for good measure. Many music or major release DVDs also have this feature (like Star Wars). That is a pretty vague overview, but hopefully it will help put the big picture in perspective. Every receiver and TV is different, so you end up having to mess with them for an hour or two before everything gets up and running correctly. Good luck.

10-11-2007, 01:50 AM	#4
parklyfe Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Red Sox Nation Blu-ray reviews:2	yea i still cant get it to work correctly, hooking it up is simple its the settings i cant figure out. if this helps any my models are TV: Sharp LC-46D82U Receiver: Pioneer VSX-917V Blu-Ray Player: Sony PS3

10-11-2007, 03:59 AM	#6
parklyfe Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Red Sox Nation Blu-ray reviews:2	thx for telling me tht its only video. Its the last time i listen to the so called experts at bestbuy. Im returning it tomorrow because its a piece of crap anyway. The right side speaker sounds like crap. (not the speaker tried several different ones in both right and left and they sound fine in left but very static when used as the right. Any sugesttions on wht receiver i should get instead, 500$ and below and i want one that converts hdmi audio also thx

10-11-2007, 11:58 PM	#15
parklyfe Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Red Sox Nation Blu-ray reviews:2	thx guys, i just picked up the onkyo gonna hook it up now ill let you guys know wht i think.

10-12-2007, 12:49 AM	#16
parklyfe Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Red Sox Nation Blu-ray reviews:2	the onkyo sounds great, finally got it to work more questions now should i set the ps3 to bitstream or pcm (dont really care why just tell me whats better) thx and also if i want to have the regular tv (cable) come through the speakers i need a 3rd HDMI cable correct? also on the music settings on the ps3 what type of bitmapping is best and whts the best frquency to have it set at (48 khz or 44.1/88.2/176.4 khz) thx for the help

10-12-2007, 01:06 AM	#17
Ex Accountant Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Trading Score:55	Ladies & Gentlemen, I have a related question. I remember being told that if you want the best video signal possible, you should hook your dvd player/PS3 directly to your television rather than go through your receiver because the more obstacles you introduce along the way, the more possible signal degradation. Of course, you could then hook the PS3 audio to the receiver for surround. Is this true? And if it is true, would the naked eye notice the difference?

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