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Westchester · 10-13-2007, 08:12 PM

I have a PS3 connected to a Onkyo TXSR605 receiver with a Panasonic TH-50PZ700U Plasma TV. I have encountered a few issues with the setup and could use any input from the community please.

1) Is it normal for the receiver to randomly switch off and loose picture sometimes to reset? It is completely random and not sure what it is doing. Sounds like it is switching channels sometimes. We have only 3 speakers and a velodyne sub attached to the receiver.

2) Our main issue. We are trying to watch a Blu-Ray (Fantastic Four Silver Surfer) on the PS3 and we get the background noise which sounds great, but when the characters speak, it is basically mute, or blurry noise that is extremely soft. We have no idea why that is. We use HDMI from the PS3 to the reciever --> and then we have another HDMI going from the receiver to the TV.

Thanks in advance for all your help and responses.

clyon · 10-13-2007, 08:19 PM

got the center speaker hooked-up? & is it working?

the on/off could be a short. Check te speakers wire makes sure that the wires are not touching.

Westchester · 10-13-2007, 08:26 PM

So your saying check to see if the wires for the speakers in the center are touching eachother?

Seems they are not, just overall very soft muffled sound of voices.

clyon · 10-13-2007, 08:34 PM

any sound coming from the center speaker?

Any short could come from any speaker, one small fray wire would trip the reciver, best to wrap the wire with electrical tape & then your 100% sure there is nothing touching.

clyon · 10-13-2007, 08:37 PM

Is the PS3 audio set at (PCM or bitestrem). you having any troubles with other moives? or just this one (fox).

Westchester · 10-13-2007, 08:39 PM

Give me one sec, will try devils rejects from Lions Gate

Westchester · 10-13-2007, 08:43 PM

Seems that Devils Rejects is also having issues, Music and background noise fine, voices are messed tho. Xbox360 and tv football sound works fine tho. So odd. Any suggestions?

gvortex7 · 10-13-2007, 08:44 PM

Make sure the center channel speaker cable is securely connected to both the positive and negative terminals.

GreenMotion · 10-13-2007, 08:46 PM

something is wrong with your center channel/speaker. There is a test-tone function you can enable on your onkyo. look for a button called "test-tone" on your remote. Try that, and use the arrows to flip thru your speakers

WriteSimply · 10-13-2007, 08:47 PM

Do a test tone. Every receiver worth its salt has one. See if the tones are playing in all of your speakers correctly.

fuad

clyon · 10-13-2007, 08:51 PM

try changing the PS3 audio setting, so if it is PCM change it to bitstream or the other way around.

Music via the PS3 or something else (cd player mp3 player), trying to figer if is a setting on the PS3 or something with the receiver.

Westchester · 10-13-2007, 08:57 PM

Ok, it seems that the center speaker is not working correctly. We have it hooked up correctly. Should we just take the center speaker out, use the left and right and then the tv speakers as the center? Is it possible? would the center speaker not having any sound cause this issue?

Westchester · 10-13-2007, 08:58 PM

Test tone revealed all speakers work except for center one. Just blank noise.

95pgtproject · 10-13-2007, 09:02 PM

i had that problem when i messed with the ps3 audio settings in pcm. Try messing around with that u will get it fixed

clyon · 10-13-2007, 09:06 PM

could just be the wire.
If you have a 9vt battery (those square one's in smoke/CO2 detectors) you can test the speaker, just touch the - to - & + to + & you will (should) hear a thump.
If you have a voltmeter test the wire using the Ohms setting on the meter or take one the wires off one of the working speakers hook it up to the center see what happens.

yes you can use the tv speaker as a center, but best to use a speaker.

WriteSimply · 10-13-2007, 09:07 PM

You can't use the TV speakers to drive the center channel, not unless you have a pre-out signal for the center channel.

Basically the sound that comes out of your receiver is simply signal + amplification. Signal is the audio that you get (stereo or 5.1) per channel. Amplification is what the receiver do to make the signal softer or louder.

If your receiver has a pre-out output - meaning the receiver accepts the signal but using the pre-out the signal has not been amplified - you can use it to drive the center channel with your TV speakers. HOWEVER, the sound quality from the TV speakers will not match the quality from the rest of your surround setup.

If your receiver does not have a pre-out, well you don't want to use the center channel output with your TV speakers. It might distort and eventually damage them.

Do this simple test to check if it's really the center speaker and not the wires. Since the rest of your speakers work correctly, exchange the center channel connection with the left speaker. Run the test tone again. If the center speaker still doesn't work, then the problem lies with the speaker and you need to get a replacement. If it DOES work, all you need to do is replace the wires.

fuad

Westchester · 10-13-2007, 09:10 PM

Wow thanks alot simply! I appreciate your advice. We reset the whole system, tested all speakers with the receiver at each listening points. Center speaker is now working correctly again. I appreciate all the communities help with my issue. It really helps alot!

One last question, any idea why the receiver unit makes deep base switching sounds sometimes when switching channels?

Thanks again all!

WriteSimply · 10-13-2007, 09:25 PM

The receiver does that because it doesn't filter out the audio signal. Your TV/cable box sends the "deep base" audio signal when you change channels. The receiver is basically amplifying that. The fault lies on your TV/cable box for not filtering the audio bump. If your receiver did the filtering, well you're going to miss out on a lot of sudden audio bumps in movies.

The steps for setting up home theaters are:
1. Connect the speakers correctly: mind the polarity (if you don't know what is negative or positive, just pick a color coded wire, connect it to the red output, and keep doing that to the rest of the wires) and loose wires (loose wires can cause the amp to short circuit).
2. Turn on the system.
3. Do a test tone and sound setup. Some receivers have auto calibration. If the test tone doesn't sound right, turn off the receiver then check your connections.
4. If it works right, then connect your sources correctly: BD player, PS3, turntable. Ensure that the receiver knows what input (analog, coax, optical or HDMI) to use with the sound and video sources.
5. Enjoy your setup.

fuad

gearyt · 10-13-2007, 09:48 PM

be sure and run the automatic speaker set-up
thru the enclosed audiossy microphone

Gideon · 10-25-2007, 12:05 PM

I just got the 605 and I have a few questions regarding some issues. I have the Samsung 1000 connectedt to it via HDMI.

Now, when I set the Samsung to PCM and I have the 605 set to "Direct," the sound only is coming out of my left and right speakers. I am getting no surround sound, basically just stereo sound. What is up with this? Or do I just have it on the wrong settings to get true PCM?

10-13-2007, 08:12 PM	#1
Westchester Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	Sound but no voices I have a PS3 connected to a Onkyo TXSR605 receiver with a Panasonic TH-50PZ700U Plasma TV. I have encountered a few issues with the setup and could use any input from the community please. 1) Is it normal for the receiver to randomly switch off and loose picture sometimes to reset? It is completely random and not sure what it is doing. Sounds like it is switching channels sometimes. We have only 3 speakers and a velodyne sub attached to the receiver. 2) Our main issue. We are trying to watch a Blu-Ray (Fantastic Four Silver Surfer) on the PS3 and we get the background noise which sounds great, but when the characters speak, it is basically mute, or blurry noise that is extremely soft. We have no idea why that is. We use HDMI from the PS3 to the reciever --> and then we have another HDMI going from the receiver to the TV. Thanks in advance for all your help and responses.

10-13-2007, 08:43 PM	#7
Westchester Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	still not working Seems that Devils Rejects is also having issues, Music and background noise fine, voices are messed tho. Xbox360 and tv football sound works fine tho. So odd. Any suggestions?

10-13-2007, 08:46 PM	#9
GreenMotion Special Member Member since:Apr 2007 4K collection:82 Blu-ray collection:1064 Trading Score:10	something is wrong with your center channel/speaker. There is a test-tone function you can enable on your onkyo. look for a button called "test-tone" on your remote. Try that, and use the arrows to flip thru your speakers Last edited by GreenMotion; 10-13-2007 at 08:55 PM.

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10-13-2007, 08:19 PM	#2
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	got the center speaker hooked-up? & is it working? the on/off could be a short. Check te speakers wire makes sure that the wires are not touching.

10-13-2007, 08:26 PM	#3
Westchester Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	So your saying check to see if the wires for the speakers in the center are touching eachother? Seems they are not, just overall very soft muffled sound of voices.

10-13-2007, 08:34 PM	#4
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	any sound coming from the center speaker? Any short could come from any speaker, one small fray wire would trip the reciver, best to wrap the wire with electrical tape & then your 100% sure there is nothing touching.

10-13-2007, 08:37 PM	#5
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	Is the PS3 audio set at (PCM or bitestrem). you having any troubles with other moives? or just this one (fox).

10-13-2007, 08:39 PM	#6
Westchester Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	Give me one sec, will try devils rejects from Lions Gate

10-13-2007, 08:44 PM	#8
gvortex7 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Fort Lauderdale, FL Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:105	Make sure the center channel speaker cable is securely connected to both the positive and negative terminals.

10-13-2007, 08:47 PM	#10
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Do a test tone. Every receiver worth its salt has one. See if the tones are playing in all of your speakers correctly. fuad

10-13-2007, 08:51 PM	#11
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	try changing the PS3 audio setting, so if it is PCM change it to bitstream or the other way around. Music via the PS3 or something else (cd player mp3 player), trying to figer if is a setting on the PS3 or something with the receiver.

10-13-2007, 08:57 PM	#12
Westchester Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	Ok, it seems that the center speaker is not working correctly. We have it hooked up correctly. Should we just take the center speaker out, use the left and right and then the tv speakers as the center? Is it possible? would the center speaker not having any sound cause this issue?

10-13-2007, 08:58 PM	#13
Westchester Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	Test tone revealed all speakers work except for center one. Just blank noise.

10-13-2007, 09:02 PM	#14
95pgtproject Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:210 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:21	i had that problem when i messed with the ps3 audio settings in pcm. Try messing around with that u will get it fixed

10-13-2007, 09:06 PM	#15
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	could just be the wire. If you have a 9vt battery (those square one's in smoke/CO2 detectors) you can test the speaker, just touch the - to - & + to + & you will (should) hear a thump. If you have a voltmeter test the wire using the Ohms setting on the meter or take one the wires off one of the working speakers hook it up to the center see what happens. yes you can use the tv speaker as a center, but best to use a speaker.

10-13-2007, 09:07 PM	#16
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	You can't use the TV speakers to drive the center channel, not unless you have a pre-out signal for the center channel. Basically the sound that comes out of your receiver is simply signal + amplification. Signal is the audio that you get (stereo or 5.1) per channel. Amplification is what the receiver do to make the signal softer or louder. If your receiver has a pre-out output - meaning the receiver accepts the signal but using the pre-out the signal has not been amplified - you can use it to drive the center channel with your TV speakers. HOWEVER, the sound quality from the TV speakers will not match the quality from the rest of your surround setup. If your receiver does not have a pre-out, well you don't want to use the center channel output with your TV speakers. It might distort and eventually damage them. Do this simple test to check if it's really the center speaker and not the wires. Since the rest of your speakers work correctly, exchange the center channel connection with the left speaker. Run the test tone again. If the center speaker still doesn't work, then the problem lies with the speaker and you need to get a replacement. If it DOES work, all you need to do is replace the wires. fuad

10-13-2007, 09:10 PM	#17
Westchester Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	Wow thanks alot simply! I appreciate your advice. We reset the whole system, tested all speakers with the receiver at each listening points. Center speaker is now working correctly again. I appreciate all the communities help with my issue. It really helps alot! One last question, any idea why the receiver unit makes deep base switching sounds sometimes when switching channels? Thanks again all!

10-13-2007, 09:25 PM	#18
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	The receiver does that because it doesn't filter out the audio signal. Your TV/cable box sends the "deep base" audio signal when you change channels. The receiver is basically amplifying that. The fault lies on your TV/cable box for not filtering the audio bump. If your receiver did the filtering, well you're going to miss out on a lot of sudden audio bumps in movies. The steps for setting up home theaters are: 1. Connect the speakers correctly: mind the polarity (if you don't know what is negative or positive, just pick a color coded wire, connect it to the red output, and keep doing that to the rest of the wires) and loose wires (loose wires can cause the amp to short circuit). 2. Turn on the system. 3. Do a test tone and sound setup. Some receivers have auto calibration. If the test tone doesn't sound right, turn off the receiver then check your connections. 4. If it works right, then connect your sources correctly: BD player, PS3, turntable. Ensure that the receiver knows what input (analog, coax, optical or HDMI) to use with the sound and video sources. 5. Enjoy your setup. fuad

10-13-2007, 09:48 PM	#19
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	be sure and run the automatic speaker set-up thru the enclosed audiossy microphone

10-25-2007, 12:05 PM	#20
Gideon Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:68	I just got the 605 and I have a few questions regarding some issues. I have the Samsung 1000 connectedt to it via HDMI. Now, when I set the Samsung to PCM and I have the 605 set to "Direct," the sound only is coming out of my left and right speakers. I am getting no surround sound, basically just stereo sound. What is up with this? Or do I just have it on the wrong settings to get true PCM?

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