Forget 4K, Now 8K is Coming

[DGates01]

I'd love to be at NAB this year:

A highlight of the NAB's 2013 Futures Park will be NHK’s Super Hi-Vision demonstration. It will feature a presentation theater for viewing the system’s 8k video and 22.2-multichannel sound (including content recorded in cooperation with the Olympic Broadcasting Service and the BBC at the London 2012 Olympic Games).

The system’s 7680 x 4320 video format provides 16 times the number of pixels as HDTV, for stunning clarity and an immersive visual experience. Meanwhile, the system’s massive multichannel audio system produces unprecedented immersion into a 3D sound space for viewers located anywhere within a large viewing area. Besides the presentation in the theater, NHK will also show for the first time outside Japan the real-time, over-the-air transmission and reception of Super Hi-Vision broadcasts, using two UHF television channels.

NHK also plans to show its latest developments in production technology for the system, including a 120 Hz Super Hi-Vision camera, as well as the first compact Super Hi-Vision camera suitable for robust mobile use, and a 22.2 multichannel sound production system. The interactive capabilities of a converged broadband/broadcast service will also be presented in a demonstration of the NHK “Hybridcast” system.

[Trekkie313]

This is Japan though, they've always gotten super high-tech stuff many years before the U.S. or average consumer. They had HD equipment in the early 90's and best version of T2 on any format.

8K will not be available to the general public for at least a decade or more.

[Visco.]

Dammit Japan.

[Canada]

This is interesting but I don't care we barely have consumer 4K.

[DGates01]

Yeah I know, but it would still be awesome to see the display.

[Sherlock_Jr]

Originally Posted by DGates01

Yeah I know, but it would still be awesome to see the display.

But what content are they going to show on it? Digital cameras don't shoot 8K, and 35mm tops out between 5-6K. Only 70mm (and maybe IMAX) has the equivalent of an 8K resolution.

[HD Man]

I attended an 8K demo last year in DC and it was impressive but won't be available to the consumer until approximately 2020. The 22.2 sound was most impressive but also the fact that no current HDMI could handle the content.

See the pictures/write-up:


http://https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=202838&highlight=ultra+hd[/URL

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Sherlock_Jr

But what content are they going to show on it? Digital cameras don't shoot 8K, and 35mm tops out between 5-6K. Only 70mm (and maybe IMAX) has the equivalent of an 8K resolution.

Standard 70mm film has 5 perforations per frame and IMAX has 15 which is why the format is so detailed and why it has a square like aspect ratio. So if 70mm negatives top out at about 8k, IMAX would be roughly 24k.

http://www.ieee.ca/millennium/imax/imax_technical.html

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Sherlock_Jr

But what content are they going to show on it? Digital cameras don't shoot 8K...

Content acquired with digital cameras yet to be built that will shoot 8k and cameras already capable of so doing -
“NHK also showed off its 120HZ compact 8K Camera System”…http://www.fcpxland.com/nhk-shows-su...nab-2013-3927/

Gives a good comparison pic of how small they’ve shrunk their 8K camera -
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/11/n...ion-camcorder/

The real stumbling block is not in any manufacturer having the ability to build a digital 8K camera, if they put their minds and resources into it, but rather, in 8K exhibition - due to the large data rate.

[Canada]

I'm going to need better eyes.

[franken_psycho1990]

Originally Posted by Visco.

Dammit Japan.

Dammit, Janet, I love you...

The road was long but i ran it, Janet
There's a fire in my heart and you fan it, Janet
If there's one fool for you then I am it, Janet
Now I've one thing to say and that's
Dammit, Janet, I love you...

[StatenMan18]

Mannnn.. Is this for real? I won't be getting 4k for like 10 years already , so I guess I'll just wait for like 16 or 32k

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by StatenMan18

Mannnn.. Is this for real? I won't be getting 4k for like 10 years already , so I guess I'll just wait for like 16 or 32k

Would you prefer we go back to standard def? The minority need high end dude.

[StatenMan18]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Would you prefer we go back to standard def? The minority need high end dude.

I'm all for high end but I'm also like broke being a blu ray collector, which hasn't been very long. It's disappointing to have these manufacturers start a new line of products just when everything started to come down in price. But I guess that's just business.

Will all these 4k and "8k" tv's at least have a bigger life span than what is currently out on the market? Tv's used to last 20 or 25 years, now a normal lifespan is 5 or 6 years, although I heard some plasmas can hit ten years if they're kept well.

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by DGates01

I'd love to be at NAB this year:

A highlight of the NAB's 2013 Futures Park will be NHK’s Super Hi-Vision demonstration. It will feature a presentation theater for viewing the system’s 8k video and 22.2-multichannel sound (including content recorded in cooperation with the Olympic Broadcasting Service and the BBC at the London 2012 Olympic Games).

The system’s 7680 x 4320 video format provides 16 times the number of pixels as HDTV, for stunning clarity and an immersive visual experience. Meanwhile, the system’s massive multichannel audio system produces unprecedented immersion into a 3D sound space for viewers located anywhere within a large viewing area. Besides the presentation in the theater, NHK will also show for the first time outside Japan the real-time, over-the-air transmission and reception of Super Hi-Vision broadcasts, using two UHF television channels.

NHK also plans to show its latest developments in production technology for the system, including a 120 Hz Super Hi-Vision camera, as well as the first compact Super Hi-Vision camera suitable for robust mobile use, and a 22.2 multichannel sound production system. The interactive capabilities of a converged broadband/broadcast service will also be presented in a demonstration of the NHK “Hybridcast” system.

I saw this presentation at ibc in amsterdam back in 2011. It was very impressive especially 22.2 sound. It was footage of a shuttle launch and a football match. Outside the theatre there was a live link to a O.B unit filming the B.B.C HQ. Very impressive.

[Anthony P]

tech on the edge that is worked on is always a generation away. Obviously as 4k is becoming a reality there will be people working on 8K. There were people taht were working on HD before DVD even hit the shelves.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by BadBogey

This just in...12K on the way, forget 8K.

The higher the pixel density….the better will be the quality of future autostereoscopic (glasses-free) 3D displays.

[King Troll]

Originally Posted by BadBogey

This just in...12K on the way, forget 8K.

12k? Try 43K.

[Novartis]

How big would the TV need to be to be able to see the difference between 4K & 8K?
I only dreamed that I could have a 100" TV when I was a kid, maybe in just a couple of years it will be a reality for the masses?

[AKORIS]

ridiculous.... they're reaching for levels that the average consumer doesn't care about and will never pay big bucks for....