Bizarre standard DVD playback - Blu-ray Forum

jeffthe13th · 11-19-2007, 09:48 PM

I noticed that some of my standard DVD's play strangely on my Samsung bdp1400 Blu Ray player. Movies such as "Breakdown" with Kurt Russel that was put out by Paramount on DVD a few years back. It is a non anamorphic dvd, regular 2:35:1 widescreen. When I try to play it on my blue ray player, the picture appears in the center of the screen with thick black bars all around it (LEFT AND RIGHT SIDES as well as top and bottom). Shouldn't the bars on the left and right sides be non existant??? My TV is set to the proper aspect ratio and everything BUT for some reason this disc and other non-anamorphic widescreen transfers aren't displaying right.
Anybody else encountering this? Does it seem like a defective player (all BLU RAY discs play fine and most regulars DVD's play properly) OR something else?

StereoMike · 11-19-2007, 09:52 PM

Same thing with Street Fighter and The Getaway, both from Universal

jeffthe13th · 11-19-2007, 11:02 PM

Any idea of Why this is???
I called Samsung and inquired about it. The rep told me to reset my player and see if it fixes the problem. I reset it and NO, it didn't fix the problem. I also upgraded the latest firmware. I hope they come out with another upgrade that fixes this.
Any idea why this happens?

clyon · 11-19-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffthe13th

Any idea of Why this is???
I called Samsung and inquired about it. The rep told me to reset my player and see if it fixes the problem. I reset it and NO, it didn't fix the problem. I also upgraded the latest firmware. I hope they come out with another upgrade that fixes this.
Any idea why this happens?

what tv do you have?

If they are old dvd's (is it in a cardboard case?), it is that, some old dvds are made 'widescreen' but for 4:3tv, so you get bars all around.

StereoMike · 11-19-2007, 11:11 PM

It's not a player problem, I tried both movies on my 2 upscaling players and same thing displayed, so it's the disc itself. I just "zoomed" the image with the TV fonction.

Deciazulado · 11-19-2007, 11:22 PM

This is happening because those DVDs are coded for 4:3 display and not for 16:9 displays (<- what you call "anamorphic" DVDs, even though all DVDs are anamorphic because they don't use 1:1 square pixels)

So for a 4:3 coded DVD the BD player displays the 480 x 720 pixels as 1080 x 1440 (4:3 shape) and the 360 x 720 image pixels (letterboxed standard widescreen movies) within or the 270 x 720 image pixels (letterboxed "Scope" movies) within end up respectively as 810 x 1440 or 600 x 1440 pixels (approximately) on screen.

So you would have to zoom that 1.33x on the display so the 4:3 DVD's edges
went from 1440 to 1920 and filled the width of the screen (and the letterboxed image's 800 pixel height or 600 pixel height went to 1080 and 800 respetively).

11-19-2007, 09:48 PM	#1
jeffthe13th Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Massachusetts, USA Blu-ray reviews: 61	Bizarre standard DVD playback I noticed that some of my standard DVD's play strangely on my Samsung bdp1400 Blu Ray player. Movies such as "Breakdown" with Kurt Russel that was put out by Paramount on DVD a few years back. It is a non anamorphic dvd, regular 2:35:1 widescreen. When I try to play it on my blue ray player, the picture appears in the center of the screen with thick black bars all around it (LEFT AND RIGHT SIDES as well as top and bottom). Shouldn't the bars on the left and right sides be non existant??? My TV is set to the proper aspect ratio and everything BUT for some reason this disc and other non-anamorphic widescreen transfers aren't displaying right. Anybody else encountering this? Does it seem like a defective player (all BLU RAY discs play fine and most regulars DVD's play properly) OR something else?

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11-19-2007, 09:52 PM	#2
StereoMike Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Coldth Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:40	Same thing with Street Fighter and The Getaway, both from Universal

11-19-2007, 11:02 PM	#3
jeffthe13th Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Massachusetts, USA Blu-ray reviews: 61	Any idea of Why this is??? I called Samsung and inquired about it. The rep told me to reset my player and see if it fixes the problem. I reset it and NO, it didn't fix the problem. I also upgraded the latest firmware. I hope they come out with another upgrade that fixes this. Any idea why this happens?

11-19-2007, 11:11 PM	#5
StereoMike Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Coldth Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:40	It's not a player problem, I tried both movies on my 2 upscaling players and same thing displayed, so it's the disc itself. I just "zoomed" the image with the TV fonction.

11-19-2007, 11:22 PM	#6
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1159 Blu-ray collection:7044 DVD collection:4040	This is happening because those DVDs are coded for 4:3 display and not for 16:9 displays (<- what you call "anamorphic" DVDs, even though all DVDs are anamorphic because they don't use 1:1 square pixels) So for a 4:3 coded DVD the BD player displays the 480 x 720 pixels as 1080 x 1440 (4:3 shape) and the 360 x 720 image pixels (letterboxed standard widescreen movies) within or the 270 x 720 image pixels (letterboxed "Scope" movies) within end up respectively as 810 x 1440 or 600 x 1440 pixels (approximately) on screen. So you would have to zoom that 1.33x on the display so the 4:3 DVD's edges went from 1440 to 1920 and filled the width of the screen (and the letterboxed image's 800 pixel height or 600 pixel height went to 1080 and 800 respetively).

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