Contributions & Duplicate Entries - Let's fix the database!

[strumdogg]

I once complained about Contributions: How to submit properly, and how they are approved/denied. I was welcomed by iceman, and assured a policy was coming. I also started the Duplicate entries (Official) thread. I was happy that iceman took it over, since he should be responsible for that sort of thing, and...iceman is awesome.


Ironically, while I have gotten dinged for rudimentary submissions (I have made a few mistakes), we members still see Duplicate entries everyday that have been approved within the last few months.

There must be a better level of approval processes than this. "We" deal with these multiple (i.e. more than just duplicate) entries of the same BD releases every day, yet many members aren't aware that what they are adding to their collections is False.

As you can tell, it's frustrating. When you want the database to be accurate, and no one responds for weeks...it's actually quite .


My hope is we can work together on fixing these issues, which include ensuring erroneous entries are removed and no longer allowed, and publishing those "contribution guidelines" that have been promised for a while. I'm all for having new features like that super-cool My Blu-ray.com link in the banner, but shouldn't we focus on the established functions/processes of the site, and get the database correct?


Thank you for your valuable time.

EDIT: I've heard some good ideas, but no solutions. Perhaps Deciazulado could provide some accurate information to the community regarding submissions...real vs. duplicate vs. imaginary. Got stats?

[rdodolak]

It sounds like they might need some help (quietly raises hand).

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

It sounds like they might need some help (quietly raises hand).

Of course I considered that too. Since I complain about it so much, though, I'd never ask that.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

Of course I considered that too. Since I complain about it so much, though, I'd never ask that.

I think we've all been there before. We're collectors, in some shape or form, after all. Of course there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism (complaining) especially if the intent is to make improvements for the benefit of the community.

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

I think we've all been there before...

Sorry, I meant that I've asked to be a "Contributor" in the past. Granted, it was out of frustration, much like this OP.

Data management is part of what I do. So yes, I've been there before.

[strumdogg]

THREE editions of The Grand Budapest Hotel exist, when only one has been released and/or announced:

https://www.blu-ray.com/search/?quic...n=bluraymovies


At this moment, 24 people have erroneous versions of a BD listed in their collections. Those who manage this site's data should be ashamed!

[rubystone356]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

I once complained about Contributions: How to submit properly, and how they are approved/denied. I was welcomed by iceman, and assured a policy was coming. I also started the Duplicate entries (Official) thread. I was happy that iceman took it over, since he should be responsible for that sort of thing, and...iceman is awesome.


Ironically, while I have gotten get dinged for rudimentary submissions (I have made a few mistakes), we still see Duplicate entries everyday that have been approved within the last few months (don't want to call any specific user out).

There must be a better level of approval processes than this. "We" deal with these multiple (i.e. more than just duplicate) entries of the same BD releases every day, yet many members aren't aware that what they are adding to their collections is False.

As you can tell, it's frustrating. When you want the database to be accurate, and no one responds for weeks...it's actually quite .


My hope is we can work on fixing these issues, which include ensuring erroneous entries are removed and no longer allowed, and publishing those "contribution guidelines" you've alluded to for a while. I'm all for having new features like that super-cool My Blu-ray.com link in the banner, but shouldn't we focus on the established functions/processes of the site, and get the database correct?


Thank you for your valuable time.

I decided to help out and do some work to make the site better. I created some marathon links for the theatre releases of marathon. something happend and I post a bunch of them. they were avengers marathon, indiana jones, and a few others. I was very annoyed to see either they got lost or missing in action.. then I lost a bunch of credits for it.
I gave up on helping with other marathons, since it was a waste of time.
this site has a very serious issue with this problem.

Jacob

[TheGeneral]

@Iceman I've been told to get in contact with you about an issue I've been having the past few months with the database, but I see you have PM's disabled so am unable to do so.
Is there a way to contact you otherwise?

[TheGeneral]

thefly/elvis presley/whomever else will appear next:


*gets suspended for douche behavior and having another username - proceeds to go onto other username to continue 1-sided argument*

Can you threadcrap elsewhere?

[tylergfoster]

I still wish for a cover explanation. I uploaded new covers for Seven Psychopaths that were rejected. Sometimes I think larger wins out over clearer.

I also honestly wish the site would just implement a flat art only policy.

[redphoenix]

Originally Posted by tylergfoster

I still wish for a cover explanation. I uploaded new covers for Seven Psychopaths that were rejected. Sometimes I think larger wins out over clearer.

I also honestly wish the site would just implement a flat art only policy.

I don't understand cover art on this site, it's hit or miss. I uploaded the exact same image from a duplicate listing (w/ art) to the original listing (w/ no art) and it was rejected. It was already approved in another location on the site?! Oh well, I guess the proper listing just won't have a cover even though the duplicate does.

[Scottie]

If anyone has an issue about why something was rejected, please feel free to message me and we can discuss it.

I may have simply overlooked something or thought the current artwork looked better that what was suggested. Also, keep in mind that there were approximately 600 pending image approvals so it's quite easy to miss something with such large volume.

[Scottie]

For anyone submitting database entries of foreign Blu-rays, here is an alphabetized list of every subtitle in the database. Simply copy and paste it into a translator program.

[Show spoiler]Arabic
Basque
Bulgarian
Cantonese
Catalan
Croatian
Czech
Czech SDH
Danish
Danish SDH
Dutch
English
English SDH
Estonian
Filipino (Tagalog)
Finnish
Finnish SDH
Flemish
French
French SDH
German
German SDH
Greek
Greek SDH
Hebrew
Hindi
Hungarian
Hungarian SDH
Icelandic
Icelandic SDH
Indian (Gujarati)
Indian (Kannada)
Indian (Malayalam)
Indian (Tamil)
Indian (Telugu)
Indonesian
Iranian
Irish
Italian
Italian SDH
Japanese
Kazakh
Korean
Korean SDH
Latvian
Lithuanian
Malay
Mandarin (Simplified)
Mandarin (Traditional)
Norwegian
Norwegian SDH
Polish
Portuguese
Romanian
Russian
Russian SDH
Sami
Serbian
Slovak
Slovenian
Spanish
Spanish SDH
Swedish
Swedish SDH
Tamil
Telugu
Thai
Turkish
Ukrainian
Ukrainian SDH
Vietnamese

[Scottie]

Hello all,

When updating existing database entries or submitting new ones, please consider including a message or link in the Comment/Source section.

It makes our job much easier because we can determine that the release does in fact exist and that the specs you list (BD size, aspect ratio, subtitles, audio tracks, etc.) are accurate.

Thank you,
Scott

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by iScottie

Hello all,

When updating existing database entries or submitting new ones, please consider including a message or link in the Comment/Source section.

It makes our job much easier because we can determine that the release does in fact exist and that the specs you list (BD size, aspect ratio, subtitles, audio tracks, etc.) are accurate.

Thank you,
Scott

This is a perfect example of why I created this thread. A certain reviewer would deny any and every submission I'd make that did not include something in the Comment field, even if it were plainly, obviously correct.

So, is this a rule, suggestion, request...?

Thanks!

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

This is a perfect example of why I created this thread. A certain reviewer would deny any and every submission I'd make that did not include something in the Comment field, even if it were plainly, obviously correct.

So, is this a rule, suggestion, request...?

Thanks!

I'd say it's mostly a courtesy suggestion. It mostly applies to international members who submit or update, for example, Danish or Polish Blu-ray releases. Nine out of 10 times, I can't find back cover art to confirm audio tracks or subtitles so I just leave it unapproved until I can get confirmation from the member directly or from another source.

Just use good discretion. If it's something that could be hard to find, please include a link.

[Scottie]

You folks want me to pay attention to Echo Bridge titles because I just noticed that some bundles have different version of films.

For example, Echo Bridge released Equilibrium in May 2011 with English 2.0 Stereo and a 1.78 aspect ratio. However, in this 2012 collection, it has English DTS 5.1 and a 2.35:1 aspect ratio.

This is sadly true for other films.

[strumdogg]

Originally Posted by iScottie

You folks want me to pay attention to Echo Bridge titles because I just noticed that some bundles have different version of films.

For example, Echo Bridge released Equilibrium in May 2011 with English 2.0 Stereo and a 1.78 aspect ratio. However, in this 2012 collection, it has English DTS 5.1 and a 2.35:1 aspect ratio.

This is sadly true for other films.

I think it's important to keep the listings separate/updated for these types of releases. As with your example, having all the versions of The Lookout listed helped me choose the best/correct release for me. I chose this one because it's a single 50 GB disc with the correct aspect ratio:

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

I think it's important to keep the listings separate/updated for these types of releases. As with your example, having all the versions of The Lookout listed helped me choose the best/correct release for me. I chose this one because it's a single 50 GB disc with the correct aspect ratio:

That's what I did.

I added a new version of the film, citing in the comments that it is the version included with several bundles. I then updated various Bundle IDs.

[Scottie]

Any members here with a lot of Criterion films? I could use some help with artwork.