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darkblueme · 12-06-2007, 12:57 AM

I watched the regular DVD versions of "Hot Rod," "Paris, Je T'aime" and "Oceans 12" this week, and... they all looked like absolute crap!

I have gotten so used to the glorious look of Blu-Ray on my 61" Samsung DLP LED HDTV that I fear I won't be able to watch a regular DVD again.

My girlfriend noticed it too. She said "Wow... these regular DVDs look so grainy compared to Blu-Ray discs." Ouch! Can you blame her? Even upconverted, it's just not the same.

We popped in the Blu-Ray version of "Bad Santa" and instantly felt better with the picture quality, the audio, and the damn great movie! (Check it out if you haven't seen it. HILARIOUS!! Co-written and produced by The Coen Brothers.)

I have mixed feelings about the revelation. Part of me is sad because most of my library will now look like crud. Part of me is happy because my love for Blu-Ray has grown stronger than ever before.

For a year, I have been buying/renting standard DVDs alongside of Blu-Ray's, but now... I don't think I can ever go back.

A moment of silence... for my expansive SD DVD library...

I DO BLU! DO YOU?
Blu-Blood for life!!

JJ · 12-06-2007, 01:16 AM

I feel you 100%. My 180 DVDs are now second fiddle.

Drives me insane, I never noticed the graininess before.

I'll still watch the classics though.

fronn · 12-06-2007, 01:32 AM

It's not grain. It's the softness (because of the low res), compression artifacts (generally the most offensive), a large amount of EE on many titles.

There's a few titles here and there that are really excellently encoded. One I just recently found was Borat (who'd have thought?) -- it's probably one of the best encodes I've seen on a DVD... if all DVDs looked like that I wouldn't mind watching them.

Sadly, even Netflix's Watch Instantly looks better than DVD (it uses 2mb/s VC-1, so compression artifacts are generally not there, from what I've seen -- of course there is still EE and the DVD res).

Blu-Generation · 12-06-2007, 01:40 AM

Coming into this forum and meeting you guys feel like I just took a step into the future.

Because out there in the world, there's alot of people who still say things like. "HD-DVD and Blu-ray are like laser disc. DVDs however, cannot be beat."

Ah, the confusion in people, all the misinformation. I hope it end soon.

What's funny is that once everyone start getting into the world of hi-def and bow to Blu-ray. Me, you, and the thousand of others on this board will have this to say. "We told you so."

yellowblanket · 12-06-2007, 01:48 AM

u guys are spoiled! i'm still buying dvd ($3-5 each at Walmart) lol i'm broke so it's the next best thing i guess.

JJ · 12-06-2007, 01:49 AM

College student.

Blu-Generation · 12-06-2007, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowblanket

u guys are spoiled! i'm still buying dvd ($3-5 each at Walmart) lol i'm broke so it's the next best thing i guess.

What, I still buy dvds too, but I buy blu along with it as well.

Rustmonsteru · 12-06-2007, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

I feel you 100%. My 180 DVDs are now second fiddle.

Drives me insane, I never noticed the graininess before.

I'll still watch the classics though.

180 dvds? Multiply that by a factor of 10 for me. It's a hard knock life

.

Sephex · 12-06-2007, 01:58 AM

I only buy dvds that are from universal at this point, and a select few at that ( usually the 2/15 stuff). Paramount can kiss my bottom, for at least another year. Yesterday was a good day, At World's End Superbad, plus I found Bad Santa and From Hell, been looking for them. Now I'm just waiting for my Harry Potter Boxset from Amazon.

It's a Merry Blu Christmas this year!
*Tips hat to Michael Bay as well*

blackhawktraffic · 12-06-2007, 02:25 AM

My DVD collection is slowly fading while my BD collection is growing nicely

But yeah I only intend to buy The Kingdom on DVD this year and thats about it.

JJ · 12-06-2007, 04:55 AM

Yea, Im picking up the Bourne Ultimatum and the Kingdom; still.

Firestreak · 12-06-2007, 05:11 AM

I picked up a used DVD copy of "The Last Kiss" a few days ago at blockbuster. I don't see this film going high-def at all.

Joon · 12-06-2007, 05:14 AM

This is exactly why I sold my 1,000+ DVD collection on ebay back in early 05. Just enough time to get good cash back on it. There are only 15 DVD's left in our house, and from my sig you see there are over 100 BD movies. We only buy BD movies now. No DVD's or DUD's here.

pro-bassoonist · 12-06-2007, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkblueme

"Paris, Je T'aime"

The First Run Features disc, as expected, was an improperly converted PAL-NTSC port so even for SDVD standards the disc looked quite weak.

Pro-B

Jorrel · 12-06-2007, 08:16 AM

Well when I started noticing that I was watching my bluray movies much more often than my large dvd collection just because they were so much more visually pleasing, I took a large portion of my dvd collection to my local Hastings and sold them back and got nearly $200 credit. Most of the movies I took back were movies that I hadn't watched in awhile or would want to buy on bluray eventually. You guys should think about doing the same at your local store that buys back dvd's because eventually they will just be a distant memory and you won't look at them again. So, you should get as much as you can out of them now. I'm even thinking about taking more back just because I cannot stand watching an upconverted SD movie. There is no comparison whatsoever.

jdc115 · 12-06-2007, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkblueme

I watched the regular DVD versions of "Hot Rod," "Paris, Je T'aime" and "Oceans 12" this week, and... they all looked like absolute crap!

I have gotten so used to the glorious look of Blu-Ray on my 61" Samsung DLP LED HDTV that I fear I won't be able to watch a regular DVD again.

My girlfriend noticed it too. She said "Wow... these regular DVDs look so grainy compared to Blu-Ray discs." Ouch! Can you blame her? Even upconverted, it's just not the same.

We popped in the Blu-Ray version of "Bad Santa" and instantly felt better with the picture quality, the audio, and the damn great movie! (Check it out if you haven't seen it. HILARIOUS!! Co-written and produced by The Coen Brothers.)

I have mixed feelings about the revelation. Part of me is sad because most of my library will now look like crud. Part of me is happy because my love for Blu-Ray has grown stronger than ever before.

For a year, I have been buying/renting standard DVDs alongside of Blu-Ray's, but now... I don't think I can ever go back.

A moment of silence... for my expansive SD DVD library...

I DO BLU! DO YOU?
Blu-Blood for life!!

A great film on a lower quality format still beats a bad film on a great format to me.

Of course, a great film on a great format tops them all but that isn't the choice yet for most of what is out there. So I be glad to take any you want to unload

TheTenth · 12-06-2007, 09:00 AM

some, even older can be quite satisfying : Krull, Labyrinth, Next, Jurassic Park ...

missionblu · 12-07-2007, 12:29 AM

I haven't bought a DVD since April (purchased WKRP Season 1). Afterwards, I've only purchased 12 Hi-Def titles.

I'm more picky about what I buy now. If I think I won't watch a title twice, I won't buy it.

12-06-2007, 12:57 AM	#1
darkblueme Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Salt Lake City, Utah 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:78	It happened I watched the regular DVD versions of "Hot Rod," "Paris, Je T'aime" and "Oceans 12" this week, and... they all looked like absolute crap! I have gotten so used to the glorious look of Blu-Ray on my 61" Samsung DLP LED HDTV that I fear I won't be able to watch a regular DVD again. My girlfriend noticed it too. She said "Wow... these regular DVDs look so grainy compared to Blu-Ray discs." Ouch! Can you blame her? Even upconverted, it's just not the same. We popped in the Blu-Ray version of "Bad Santa" and instantly felt better with the picture quality, the audio, and the damn great movie! (Check it out if you haven't seen it. HILARIOUS!! Co-written and produced by The Coen Brothers.) I have mixed feelings about the revelation. Part of me is sad because most of my library will now look like crud. Part of me is happy because my love for Blu-Ray has grown stronger than ever before. For a year, I have been buying/renting standard DVDs alongside of Blu-Ray's, but now... I don't think I can ever go back. A moment of silence... for my expansive SD DVD library... I DO BLU! DO YOU? Blu-Blood for life!! Last edited by darkblueme; 12-06-2007 at 07:05 AM.

12-06-2007, 01:58 AM	#9
Sephex Junior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Calgary, Alberta	select dvds I only buy dvds that are from universal at this point, and a select few at that ( usually the 2/15 stuff). Paramount can kiss my bottom, for at least another year. Yesterday was a good day, At World's End Superbad, plus I found Bad Santa and From Hell, been looking for them. Now I'm just waiting for my Harry Potter Boxset from Amazon. It's a Merry Blu Christmas this year! Tips hat to Michael Bay as well

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12-06-2007, 01:16 AM	#2
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	I feel you 100%. My 180 DVDs are now second fiddle. Drives me insane, I never noticed the graininess before. I'll still watch the classics though.

12-06-2007, 01:32 AM	#3
fronn Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:St. Paul, Minnesota Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1	It's not grain. It's the softness (because of the low res), compression artifacts (generally the most offensive), a large amount of EE on many titles. There's a few titles here and there that are really excellently encoded. One I just recently found was Borat (who'd have thought?) -- it's probably one of the best encodes I've seen on a DVD... if all DVDs looked like that I wouldn't mind watching them. Sadly, even Netflix's Watch Instantly looks better than DVD (it uses 2mb/s VC-1, so compression artifacts are generally not there, from what I've seen -- of course there is still EE and the DVD res).

12-06-2007, 01:40 AM	#4
Blu-Generation Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	Coming into this forum and meeting you guys feel like I just took a step into the future. Because out there in the world, there's alot of people who still say things like. "HD-DVD and Blu-ray are like laser disc. DVDs however, cannot be beat." Ah, the confusion in people, all the misinformation. I hope it end soon. What's funny is that once everyone start getting into the world of hi-def and bow to Blu-ray. Me, you, and the thousand of others on this board will have this to say. "We told you so."

12-06-2007, 01:48 AM	#5
yellowblanket Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	u guys are spoiled! i'm still buying dvd ($3-5 each at Walmart) lol i'm broke so it's the next best thing i guess.

12-06-2007, 01:49 AM	#6
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	College student.

12-06-2007, 02:25 AM	#10
blackhawktraffic Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Upland, CA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:18 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:228	My DVD collection is slowly fading while my BD collection is growing nicely But yeah I only intend to buy The Kingdom on DVD this year and thats about it.

12-06-2007, 04:55 AM	#11
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Yea, Im picking up the Bourne Ultimatum and the Kingdom; still.

12-06-2007, 05:11 AM	#12
Firestreak Senior Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:103 Trading Score:64	I picked up a used DVD copy of "The Last Kiss" a few days ago at blockbuster. I don't see this film going high-def at all.

12-06-2007, 05:14 AM	#13
Joon Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:208 Trading Score:1	This is exactly why I sold my 1,000+ DVD collection on ebay back in early 05. Just enough time to get good cash back on it. There are only 15 DVD's left in our house, and from my sig you see there are over 100 BD movies. We only buy BD movies now. No DVD's or DUD's here.

12-06-2007, 08:16 AM	#15
Jorrel Member Member since:Oct 2007	Well when I started noticing that I was watching my bluray movies much more often than my large dvd collection just because they were so much more visually pleasing, I took a large portion of my dvd collection to my local Hastings and sold them back and got nearly $200 credit. Most of the movies I took back were movies that I hadn't watched in awhile or would want to buy on bluray eventually. You guys should think about doing the same at your local store that buys back dvd's because eventually they will just be a distant memory and you won't look at them again. So, you should get as much as you can out of them now. I'm even thinking about taking more back just because I cannot stand watching an upconverted SD movie. There is no comparison whatsoever.

12-06-2007, 09:00 AM	#17
TheTenth Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Clermont-Ferrand, France Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:98 Blu-ray collection:681 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:11	some, even older can be quite satisfying : Krull, Labyrinth, Next, Jurassic Park ...

12-07-2007, 12:29 AM	#18
missionblu Member Member since:Sep 2007	I haven't bought a DVD since April (purchased WKRP Season 1). Afterwards, I've only purchased 12 Hi-Def titles. I'm more picky about what I buy now. If I think I won't watch a title twice, I won't buy it.

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