Anyone hear about this guy Swanni???

[JJ777]

Hello All,

Here's a link http://www.tvpredictions.com/swannitwo120507.htm to a video discussing Hi-Def outlooks for 2008 by this guy named Swanni. He seems to think there will be some type of "single media" and/or reconciliation among the two camps (blu-ray and hd-dvd) in 2008. I can't imagine with everything the BDA has done, and what Sony has given to the PS3, to concede to HD-DVD. Do you think there will be something in concessions related to BD-Java and HDi???

Yes (before the bombs come) this is a serious/objective question. I'm a happy blu-ray owner.....PS3 is awesome!

Thanks,
Josh

[Spankey]

I think he is basing this on all the informatino we have heard. Unless he has specifics, his predictions are no more useful than our own. I will say this. There will be NO new format in any kind of reconciliation. Personally, I believe HD-DVD will cease to exist as a new format. Dual format players from Blu-ray hardware companies are the only as long as Toshiba ceases HD-DVD production is the only kind of reconciliation I see happening.

Sony is pushing for 1.1 now. If it is available and works as expected, HD-DVD will not have a single advantage over Blu-ray.

I'd be interested to see if the BDA will track connections to any online content the way the HD-DVD PRG is. If even one title scores more connections to online content, via PS3, it can give a decent number of people using the PS3 for movies, and show Universal that their precious online marketing may work on Blu-ray.

[mystiksuicide]

I think he is right that there will probably be one format by end of next year or early 2009 but I can't see Sony conceding much if anything to HD DVD.

Why should they when they continue to outsell hd dvd by a large margin. But I do agree that the studios do want this end fairly quickly.

[spam.curitiba]

HD dvd is going to be hurting....java > hdi

[haushausman]

That guy Swanni is a tardmuffin. Every month his position changes...

I wouldn't take anything he says seriously. His opinions change with each new article he reads.

[tron3]

He wouldn't even say blu-ray would be the winner. Also says that Sony has gotten a bit "wishy washy". This concerns me.

Here is where a single format can backfire. If that single format is NOT blu-ray, it not only pisses off the entire BD camp, but it will CERTAINLY piss off knowledgable consumers waiting for BD to win. If the best technology format, which is also the best selling format, does not win - many consumers will throw up their hands and follow my lead. BUY NOTHING.

That's right, nothing. If some act of sabotage leads HD DVD to win, I am giving up buying movies forever. End of story, so long, case closed, on with my life and on to better things. Digital Downloads will not be one of those better things. The best of show should win, not the best of friends of the judges. Nor should another new format come into play. We don't need the Ross Perot of HDM to save us.
If by some strange brain washing ANYONE in the blu camp wants to migrate, the others should refuse to budge. Warner, we need you more than ever to go BD exclusive.

[cawgijoe]

There is no reason for the leader to concede anything. Once Toshiba and the supporting studios figure out that that HD DVD is not going to provide the profits they are looking for, they will concede.

[alpinewiz]

Take what this guy says with a grain of salt. He make predictions every year for the next year and his track record for being right is poor at best.

[cawgijoe]

Originally Posted by haushausman

That guy Swanni is a tardmuffin. Every month his position changes...

I wouldn't take anything he says seriously. His opinions change with each new article he reads.

All his site is good for is providing up to date news.....other than that, everything spouted there is just opinions.

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by tron3

He wouldn't even say blu-ray would be the winner. Also says that Sony has gotten a bit "wishy washy". This concerns me.

Here is where a single format can backfire. If that single format is NOT blu-ray, it not only pisses off the entire BD camp, but it will CERTAINLY piss off knowledgable consumers waiting for BD to win. If the best technology format, which is also the best selling format, does not win - many consumers will throw up their hands and follow my lead. BUY NOTHING.

That's right, nothing. If some act of sabotage leads HD DVD to win, I am giving up buying movies forever. End of story, so long, case closed, on with my life and on to better things. Digital Downloads will not be one of those better things. The best of show should win, not the best of friends of the judges. Nor should another new format come into play. We don't need the Ross Perot of HDM to save us.
If by some strange brain washing ANYONE in the blu camp wants to migrate, the others should refuse to budge. Warner, we need you more than ever to go BD exclusive.

Sony won't cave in this time. They are dying to get rid of the "every format we create fails" image. If they do cave in the blu-ray thing will haunt them forever.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Sony won't cave in this time. They are dying to get rid of the "every format we create fails" image. If they do cave in the blu-ray thing will haunt them forever.

Excellent point, but not completely true. Memory sticks succeeded, even if it was a captive audience.

Conceding to HD DVD makes little sense. Conceding to another format makes NO SENSE, even if it is digital downloads. Movies are not music. The logistics of keeping those files is a nightmare to the average consumer.

Everyone, please repeat after me.

"There will always-always-ALWAYS be a market for hard media."

[Esox50]

Only way I could see a compromise is if the BDA gives Toshiba some sort of revenue share. I could then see Toshiba releasing a combo player for a few years to support current HD DVD owners' libraries.

I'm oversimplifying a bit. My point is, instead of focusing on the technical aspects of a compromise (which is basically impossible at this point), it's still entirely possible for a financial compromise. I'm a CFO, see this happen all the time.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by Esox50

Only way I could see a compromise is if the BDA gives Toshiba some sort of revenue share. I could then see Toshiba releasing a combo player for a few years to support current HD DVD owners' libraries.

I'm oversimplifying a bit. My point is, instead of focusing on the technical aspects of a compromise (which is basically impossible at this point), it's still entirely possible for a financial compromise. I'm a CFO, see this happen all the time.

You are my new best friend. I have said these things in the past. I completely agree NOT to screw supporters of HDM who bought into HD DVD. Let's not make them gun shy about buying into blu. Support them, and give Toshiba a deal they can't refuse. If Toshiba drops the gauntlet, the studios would be forced to switch. Or vice versa.

[cawgijoe]

Originally Posted by Esox50

Only way I could see a compromise is if the BDA gives Toshiba some sort of revenue share. I could then see Toshiba releasing a combo player for a few years to support current HD DVD owners' libraries.

I'm oversimplifying a bit. My point is, instead of focusing on the technical aspects of a compromise (which is basically impossible at this point), it's still entirely possible for a financial compromise. I'm a CFO, see this happen all the time.

I'm in Finance also and what you are saying is very true. If it looks like HD DVD is going to tank, and the BDA is willing to give Toshiba a share of the profits, it's entirely possible for them to accept this rather then get nothing out of it. This could also speed up the decision to drop HD DVD as a viable format.

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by tron3

Excellent point, but not completely true. Memory sticks succeeded, even if it was a captive audience.

Memory sticks did succeed to an extent but so did sd cards. I don't believe memory sticks are on the same level as blu-ray on the worlds perception of Sony .

[cawgijoe]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Memory sticks did succeed to an extent but so did sd cards. I don't believe memory sticks are on the same level as blu-ray on the worlds perception of Sony .

and Compact Flash....and Xd cards....and on and on......people look at these as just storage media ffor their particular device and buy accordingly.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Memory sticks did succeed to an extent but so did sd cards. I don't believe memory sticks are on the same level as blu-ray on the worlds perception of Sony .

Dang, trumped by one of my own kind. But I think we can agree the future in memory devices is definately in newer and faster USB devices.

Now, how about a hug?

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by tron3

Dang, trumped by one of my own kind. But I think we can agree the future in memory devices is definately in newer and faster USB devices.

Now, how about a hug?

By no means am I against you, but back to the OP how could anybody ever buy into anything sony does if they screw the people who trusted them. From whta I have seen and read some bought into hd dvd not because they think it's a better format but more based on Sony's infamous failures in the past.

I am not a Sony lover or hater as a matter of fact both my SA players are made by other manufactures.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Sony won't cave in this time. They are dying to get rid of the "every format we create fails" image. If they do cave in the blu-ray thing will haunt them forever.

This image is absurd, considering Sony was part of the team that created CDs. Those sure were a massive failure.

They also created 3.5" floppy discs, DAT tapes, and Betacam, which succeeded where Betamax failed.

I'm not saying I disagree Sony has this reputation, but I am saying the reputation is absurd.

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

This image is absurd, considering Sony was part of the team that created CDs. Those sure were a massive failure.

You might think absurd but people remember they're past failures vividly.