My Dad's Take on PiP - Blu-ray Forum

stockstar1138 · 12-18-2007, 08:52 PM

My dad walked into my room last night and i was just watching my ps3 update, cause i was bored. he asked what i was doing and i told him it was updating the firmware. he asked what the new firmware was for and i told him it was for voice changing, DIVX and WMV, and PiP. He was like, "so with PiP on this thing can you be playing a game, but have a movie going on in the corner. i explained to him what profile 1.1 was with commentary and "making of" PiP. He looked at me and goes, " thats stupid, who would want that?" just to clarify my dad is a very typical consumer, who does enjoy his tech more than most, but i wouldn't call him a big enthusiest.

i agree with him about PiP, i could care less about PiP, i doubt i will ever use it. and it seems like a lot of ppl here agree with me. that brings me to a good question. do hd dvd fanboys really care about PiP and other interactivity, or do they just talk about it, because thats all they have left?
within 6 months blu-ray is going to be sporting beter interactive features, when blu-ray has superior interactive features, since that has been something so dear to them, it will be curious if they keep saying interactivity is sooooo important.

cajmoyper · 12-18-2007, 08:55 PM

I don't care much about it but why are you asking if the fanboys care about it? Where are they? Here? It's hunting time.

spam.curitiba · 12-18-2007, 08:57 PM

I could give a rats ass about PIP....who the hell wants to be interuppted during a movie to see what the damn director or actors says...

stockstar1138 · 12-18-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

I don't care much about it but why are you asking if the fanboys care about it? Where are they? Here? It's hunting time.

no, im asking if blu-ray fans, think hd dvd fanboys, really care that much about PiP or they just say they do, because its their only technical superiority talking point atm.

blu-rayfan101 · 12-18-2007, 08:58 PM

I agree with you and your dad, I could careless about PiP. And hd dvd fanboys are saying PiP is so important because it's the only thing they can say.EDIt: And it is a good selling point so I can kind of care a bit about it.

haushausman · 12-18-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spam.curitiba

I could give a rats ass about PIP....who the hell wants to be interuppted during a movie to see what the damn director or actors says...

+1

Deacon220 · 12-18-2007, 08:59 PM

I totally agree with you and your Dad, PIP is just a gimic that really has not much use. I've had the capability and ability on my TV's for the last 15 years and never bothered to hook it up. When I want to watch a movie I watch a movie and when I'm playing games that's what I want to do at that moment.

Blu-Style · 12-18-2007, 09:01 PM

I guess I´ll have no use for this feature either, but... you never know...

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

do hd dvd fanboys really care about PiP and other interactivity, or do they just talk about it, because thats all they have left?

That´s it.

I´m sure even now, HDDVD fans are showing off with it.

If you say to them: "Blu-ray has PiP now"

they´ll say: "HDDVD has it since the beginning"

miokti · 12-18-2007, 09:01 PM

I am a big fan of watching movies that way the director intended... the movie is the product, not the PIP. I want to enjoy the movie with pristine PQ and AQ... and that little PIP window just blocks my view of the entire movie... and the comments from the PIP just interupts the audio of the movie.

sokrman14 · 12-18-2007, 09:02 PM

Agreed here as well, however if it is necessary to go to 2.0/BD live, then I understand its importance.

181 · 12-18-2007, 09:03 PM

I think all bonus material is worthless. But it is good Sony is doing this. They are slowly strangling HD DVD

tiger roach · 12-18-2007, 09:03 PM

IMO it'll be one of those things that sounds kinda cool but ends up being next to worthless.

I'm glad we have it now though just so it isn't something the haters can bring up.

atomik kinder · 12-18-2007, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

no, im asking if blu-ray fans, think hd dvd fanboys, really care that much about PiP or they just say they do, because its their only technical superiority talking point atm.

Correct! I never use things that interrupt my enjoyment of a movie. I think I listened to maybe half of one commentary track on one DVD and gave up. I really don't care to listen to what the director or an actor was thinking or doing while filming the movie. I am sure if you asked most people, (or even if you didn't) if audio commentary tracks disappeared from DVDs, how many people would really care or even notice?

And by everyones comments here, it looks like now that it is possible on Blu-ray, nobody really seems to care that it exists.

Manco · 12-18-2007, 09:08 PM

HD-DVD Propaganda Group: "We have awaken a sleeping giant."

(we all know what happened in the end)

181 · 12-18-2007, 09:11 PM

What would be cool is if the PS3 recorded you saying your name, the new voice changer makes it sound like sound like some sci-fi chick. Then in a carefully crafted sci-fi movie, the PiP would pop up and interact with you as part of the movie; something like "Hey we need your help [name]. You need to enter this code "1-8-1-8-2" otherwise we are all dead". Then you would use your remote to do that otherwise the movie will stop.

tiger roach · 12-18-2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 181

What would be cool is if the PS3 recorded you saying your name, the new voice changer makes it sound like sound like some sci-fi chick. Then in a carefully crafted sci-fi movie, the PiP would pop up and interact with you as part of the movie; something like "Hey we need your help [name]. You need to enter this code "1-8-1-8-2" otherwise we are all dead". Then you would use your remote to do that otherwise the movie will stop.

*spurts soda on keyboard*

Ah yes. You want interactivity, you got it folks!

anubisdogg · 12-18-2007, 09:14 PM

I see no use for it. I won't even bother to look at it. I don't care what happened when they were filming.

CptGreedle · 12-18-2007, 09:16 PM

I can see how PiP, if used properly, could be really cool. But as it is now.. it is crappy and not really worth it.
I for one do not want to see the commentors.. hearing them is enough.

I think it is good to have the potential for when someone with imagination has the power to apply something cool to it.

mystiksuicide · 12-18-2007, 09:18 PM

HD DUD fanboys cling onto the PIP because thats all they have left that blu hasn't implemented yet!!!

What sad state of affairs it is when they say Yea but we have.. uhmmmm...... pip and you dont! ha

GarettP · 12-18-2007, 09:19 PM

I think PiP might be cool to use here and there, but I am glad that HD-DVD fans can't hold the interactivity card over our heads anymore!

12-18-2007, 08:52 PM	#1
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	My Dad's Take on PiP My dad walked into my room last night and i was just watching my ps3 update, cause i was bored. he asked what i was doing and i told him it was updating the firmware. he asked what the new firmware was for and i told him it was for voice changing, DIVX and WMV, and PiP. He was like, "so with PiP on this thing can you be playing a game, but have a movie going on in the corner. i explained to him what profile 1.1 was with commentary and "making of" PiP. He looked at me and goes, " thats stupid, who would want that?" just to clarify my dad is a very typical consumer, who does enjoy his tech more than most, but i wouldn't call him a big enthusiest. i agree with him about PiP, i could care less about PiP, i doubt i will ever use it. and it seems like a lot of ppl here agree with me. that brings me to a good question. do hd dvd fanboys really care about PiP and other interactivity, or do they just talk about it, because thats all they have left? within 6 months blu-ray is going to be sporting beter interactive features, when blu-ray has superior interactive features, since that has been something so dear to them, it will be curious if they keep saying interactivity is sooooo important.

12-18-2007, 08:58 PM	#5
blu-rayfan101 Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The Universe.	I agree with you and your dad, I could careless about PiP. And hd dvd fanboys are saying PiP is so important because it's the only thing they can say.EDIt: And it is a good selling point so I can kind of care a bit about it. Last edited by blu-rayfan101; 12-18-2007 at 09:03 PM.

12-18-2007, 09:01 PM	#9
miokti Expert Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:San Diego, CA	My take on PIP I am a big fan of watching movies that way the director intended... the movie is the product, not the PIP. I want to enjoy the movie with pristine PQ and AQ... and that little PIP window just blocks my view of the entire movie... and the comments from the PIP just interupts the audio of the movie.

12-18-2007, 09:08 PM	#14
Manco Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Tucumcari	PS3 Firmare 2.10 HD-DVD Propaganda Group: *"We have awaken a sleeping giant."* (we all know what happened in the end)

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12-18-2007, 08:55 PM	#2
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	I don't care much about it but why are you asking if the fanboys care about it? Where are they? Here? It's hunting time.

12-18-2007, 08:57 PM	#3
spam.curitiba Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:172 Blu-ray reviews:2	I could give a rats ass about PIP....who the hell wants to be interuppted during a movie to see what the damn director or actors says...

12-18-2007, 08:59 PM	#7
Deacon220 Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Dallas, Texas Blu-ray reviews:3	I totally agree with you and your Dad, PIP is just a gimic that really has not much use. I've had the capability and ability on my TV's for the last 15 years and never bothered to hook it up. When I want to watch a movie I watch a movie and when I'm playing games that's what I want to do at that moment.

12-18-2007, 09:02 PM	#10
sokrman14 Special Member Member since:Mar 2006 Location:Omaha, NE Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:32 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Agreed here as well, however if it is necessary to go to 2.0/BD live, then I understand its importance.

12-18-2007, 09:03 PM	#11
181 Active Member Member since:Dec 2007	I think all bonus material is worthless. But it is good Sony is doing this. They are slowly strangling HD DVD

12-18-2007, 09:03 PM	#12
tiger roach Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:141 Blu-ray reviews:1	IMO it'll be one of those things that sounds kinda cool but ends up being next to worthless. I'm glad we have it now though just so it isn't something the haters can bring up.

12-18-2007, 09:11 PM	#15
181 Active Member Member since:Dec 2007	What would be cool is if the PS3 recorded you saying your name, the new voice changer makes it sound like sound like some sci-fi chick. Then in a carefully crafted sci-fi movie, the PiP would pop up and interact with you as part of the movie; something like "Hey we need your help [name]. You need to enter this code "1-8-1-8-2" otherwise we are all dead". Then you would use your remote to do that otherwise the movie will stop.

12-18-2007, 09:14 PM	#17
anubisdogg Member Member since:May 2007 Location:US East Coast Blu-ray collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:7	I see no use for it. I won't even bother to look at it. I don't care what happened when they were filming.

12-18-2007, 09:16 PM	#18
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	I can see how PiP, if used properly, could be really cool. But as it is now.. it is crappy and not really worth it. I for one do not want to see the commentors.. hearing them is enough. I think it is good to have the potential for when someone with imagination has the power to apply something cool to it.

12-18-2007, 09:18 PM	#19
mystiksuicide Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Miami Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:27	HD DUD fanboys cling onto the PIP because thats all they have left that blu hasn't implemented yet!!! What sad state of affairs it is when they say Yea but we have.. uhmmmm...... pip and you dont! ha

12-18-2007, 09:19 PM	#20
GarettP Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Montrose, CO Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:21	I think PiP might be cool to use here and there, but I am glad that HD-DVD fans can't hold the interactivity card over our heads anymore!

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