Jean De Florette & Manon Des Sources - 2017 Restoration - Blu-ray Forum

Dubliner1 · 09-20-2017, 05:41 PM

Thought I'd start a thread for this as it just came out last week- posted loads of pics in the thread for (France) Pathe Classic Titles (page 14)

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giopna · 09-23-2017, 06:20 PM

Does it come with English subtitles. I think it does. Either way (as a french speaker) I've ordered it. I'm very excited. I was hoping for this one for a long time and I can't believe it's here.

giopna · 09-23-2017, 06:23 PM

I've just now seen. It's region A, B, and C. With English subtitles. Fantastic. Now I can share this film in this wonderful restoration with others who've not yet seen it!

MifuneFan · 09-23-2017, 06:32 PM

Beautifull release. I've still yet to watch my US release, which was a blind-buy.

Dubliner1 · 09-23-2017, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giopna

Does it come with English subtitles. I think it does. Either way (as a french speaker) I've ordered it. I'm very excited. I was hoping for this one for a long time and I can't believe it's here.

Yes, it comes with English subtitles- which can be turned on/off as you like.

tomkara1982 · 10-09-2017, 02:50 AM

I have the US blu ray combo that looked pretty good already. Is it worth upgrading to this one?

Bates_Motel · 10-09-2017, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tomkara1982

I have the US blu ray combo that looked pretty good already. Is it worth upgrading to this one?

If you love the films, yes.

movielib · 10-09-2017, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

If you love the films, yes.

I love the films and did already have the US set. I received my copy of the new set from Amazon.fr a few days ago.

I haven't taken a look yet but I want the best discs available of these masterpieces.

duggie walker · 10-09-2017, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tomkara1982

I have the US blu ray combo that looked pretty good already. Is it worth upgrading to this one?

Definitely. It's a night and day difference.

tomkara1982 · 10-09-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by duggie walker

Definitely. It's a night and day difference.

Awesome. Gave in yesterday and ordered my copy already - along with the LP of the score for both films

giopna · 10-12-2017, 11:58 PM

Just received the movies. The front cover is damaged with a little "crack crease" sort of line on the front.

Unfortunately, I opened the plastic wrap without noticing it. I'm not sure if this warrants a return. Can it still be returned?

It's too bad, because it's such a lovely cover. It's really noticeable since it's white.

tomkara1982 · 10-14-2017, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by giopna

Just received the movies. The front cover is damaged with a little "crack crease" sort of line on the front.

Unfortunately, I opened the plastic wrap without noticing it. I'm not sure if this warrants a return. Can it still be returned?

It's too bad, because it's such a lovely cover. It's really noticeable since it's white.

I'm not sure about Amazon France but the rare few times I got a damaged disc from Amazon US they shipped out a replacement one for free without requiring me to return the first one.

Tibor Lugosi · 11-15-2017, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duggie walker

Definitely. It's a night and day difference.

Thank you. Ordered this morning, I love these films! If only we'd get a similar release for My Father's Glory & My Mother's Castle, I would be a very happy fan!

thinredline · 11-24-2017, 02:57 PM

Comparisons:
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11113&d2=11112&c=4417

The dark scenes look considerably altered.
Don't know what is the original look of the film.

Bates_Motel · 11-24-2017, 04:34 PM

It's a shame it's been revisionist tealed like so many modern "remasters." Florette looks mostly great. Manon needs the blues re-colored to proper blue (and whites brought back to white instead of having a blue tint. Not hard to do with DaVinci or other color-grading programs, but a shame studios keep altering the look of films to make them appear "modern."

harpolini · 11-25-2017, 12:50 AM

Can anyone confirm the region? I own the Shout! set, which was better quality than most the stuff they put out.. However just compared to this new release, its a disgrace.

Bates_Motel · 11-25-2017, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpolini

Can anyone confirm the region? I own the Shout! set, which was better quality than most the stuff they put out.. However just compared to this new release, its a disgrace.

Region free

DMRI2006 · 12-28-2017, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinredline

Comparisons:
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11113&d2=11112&c=4417

The dark scenes look considerably altered.
Don't know what is the original look of the film.

Was going to order this and replace my Shout copy but I'm going to pass after looking at those screen caps. Odd colors and the image also appears zoomed in, especially on the right hand side of the frame. Shout's compression is actually higher than these discs I believe too.

PNeski · 10-31-2018, 11:54 AM

I compared both versions ,and while the French one does have some things going for it
I put it up on ebay because the color is too blue for my taste ,and the shout Factory
disc is warmer and simply better ,The French disc has better subtitles

RDA · 10-31-2018, 06:41 PM

The Shout Factory release IS inferior. The revisionism argument is flimsy at best. The SF is clearly sourced from a dated master that was dug up from the MGM archives (a studio not often known for putting a lot of effort into catalogue releases). The Pathe release is from a 4K scan of the original negative supervised by Bruno Nuytten, the cinematographer. SF really don't have an amazing track record either.

I'm not sure how anyone can argue that the SF has better colours when there's no information whatsoever to suggest that the SF colours are correct. For example, the skin tones on this scene on the SF: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...3&l=0&i=5&go=1 make the actors look like they've been on sun beds for several years as they're so awfully and unnaturally red. The zooming may be because the aspect ratio on the Pathe release has been corrected to be accurate (like say with the recent release of '2001'). More disc space does not necessarily mean better compression either.

So yeah, if anyone reads this thread and is unsure which release to buy, then buy the Pathe without hesitation.

09-20-2017, 05:41 PM	#1
Dubliner1 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Spain Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:346 Blu-ray collection:598 DVD collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:18	Jean De Florette & Manon Des Sources - 2017 Restoration *Thought I'd start a thread for this as it just came out last week- posted loads of pics in the thread for (France) Pathe Classic Titles (page 14)* DSC06576 (2).jpg

09-23-2017, 06:20 PM	#2
giopna Active Member Member since:Jul 2013 Trading Score:3	Does it come with English subtitles. I think it does. Either way (as a french speaker) I've ordered it. I'm very excited. I was hoping for this one for a long time and I can't believe it's here.

09-23-2017, 06:23 PM	#3
giopna Active Member Member since:Jul 2013 Trading Score:3	I've just now seen. It's region A, B, and C. With English subtitles. Fantastic. Now I can share this film in this wonderful restoration with others who've not yet seen it!

09-23-2017, 06:32 PM	#4
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	Beautifull release. I've still yet to watch my US release, which was a blind-buy.

10-09-2017, 02:50 AM	#6
tomkara1982 Active Member Member since:Sep 2017 Location:CA 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:845 DVD collection:14	I have the US blu ray combo that looked pretty good already. Is it worth upgrading to this one?

10-12-2017, 11:58 PM	#11
giopna Active Member Member since:Jul 2013 Trading Score:3	Just received the movies. The front cover is damaged with a little "crack crease" sort of line on the front. Unfortunately, I opened the plastic wrap without noticing it. I'm not sure if this warrants a return. Can it still be returned? It's too bad, because it's such a lovely cover. It's really noticeable since it's white.

11-24-2017, 02:57 PM	#14
thinredline Banned Member since:Nov 2017 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:590 Trading Score:1	Comparisons: http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11113&d2=11112&c=4417 The dark scenes look considerably altered. Don't know what is the original look of the film.

11-24-2017, 04:34 PM	#15
Bates_Motel Banned Member since:Jul 2014 Location:Los Angeles Trading Score:2	It's a shame it's been revisionist tealed like so many modern "remasters." Florette looks mostly great. Manon needs the blues re-colored to proper blue (and whites brought back to white instead of having a blue tint. Not hard to do with DaVinci or other color-grading programs, but a shame studios keep altering the look of films to make them appear "modern."

11-25-2017, 12:50 AM	#16
harpolini Expert Member Member since:Nov 2012 Location:WA, USA 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:237 DVD collection:92 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:1	Can anyone confirm the region? I own the Shout! set, which was better quality than most the stuff they put out.. However just compared to this new release, its a disgrace.

10-31-2018, 11:54 AM	#19
PNeski Member Member since:Jan 2008	I compared both versions ,and while the French one does have some things going for it I put it up on ebay because the color is too blue for my taste ,and the shout Factory disc is warmer and simply better ,The French disc has better subtitles

10-31-2018, 06:41 PM	#20
RDA Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 Location:UK 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:117	The Shout Factory release IS inferior. The revisionism argument is flimsy at best. The SF is clearly sourced from a dated master that was dug up from the MGM archives (a studio not often known for putting a lot of effort into catalogue releases). The Pathe release is from a 4K scan of the original negative supervised by Bruno Nuytten, the cinematographer. SF really don't have an amazing track record either. I'm not sure how anyone can argue that the SF has better colours when there's no information whatsoever to suggest that the SF colours are correct. For example, the skin tones on this scene on the SF: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...3&l=0&i=5&go=1 make the actors look like they've been on sun beds for several years as they're so awfully and unnaturally red. The zooming may be because the aspect ratio on the Pathe release has been corrected to be accurate (like say with the recent release of '2001'). More disc space does not necessarily mean better compression either. So yeah, if anyone reads this thread and is unsure which release to buy, then buy the Pathe without hesitation.

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