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Old 01-07-2008, 07:10 AM   #1
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Why cant you play iTunes songs on the PS3? They should allow u to DL and install iTunes on the PS3, then you could just add the PS3 as an authorized computer and start listening. Seeing as Apple supports Blu-ray, it would be kind of cool of them.
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Old 01-07-2008, 07:15 AM   #2
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completely agree. this is the only thing that frustrates me about the PS3. if it did this...straight up...without having to pursue any technical loopholes, then i would be convinced that it COULD cure cancer...
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:57 AM   #3
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Just play it on your PC, or hook up your PC or MAC to your TV and stream it that way. The PS3 can't be everything.
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:12 PM   #4
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Just play it on your PC, or hook up your PC or MAC to your TV and stream it that way. The PS3 can't be everything.
Of course it cant be everything, but it is a music player already. And right now, it pretty much only caters to those who buy CDs and extract the songs into MP3s or, even worse and prolly more commonly, to those that steal music online.

I pay for my songs honestly, is it so much to ask that I can play my paid for songs on a device which allows stolen music to be played on it?
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:05 PM   #5
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Of course it cant be everything, but it is a music player already. And right now, it pretty much only caters to those who buy CDs and extract the songs into MP3s or, even worse and prolly more commonly, to those that steal music online.

I pay for my songs honestly, is it so much to ask that I can play my paid for songs on a device which allows stolen music to be played on it?
Life is easier for those who steal.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:09 PM   #6
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Life is easier for those who steal.
No doubt about that, but the easier part of stealing music is that your not paying for music. I dont know why apple wont let the PS3 play the music.

It also bothers me that I cannot burn an "MP3" disc with 100 songs for my car to play, but that can easily be solved with an ipod.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:22 PM   #7
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Encrypted songs on AAC is locked down to the computer you purchased it with and the iPods. That's just the way iTunes is - contractually obligated by the record companies. If the record label releases the encryption clause, I'm sure Apple can release a converter that can convert the files to an open AAC.

Also, you can't use WMPlayer 11 for AAC streaming via DLNA. Blame that on Microsoft.


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Old 01-07-2008, 01:25 PM   #8
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Encrypted songs on AAC is locked down to the computer you purchased it with and the iPods. That's just the way iTunes is - contractually obligated by the record companies. If the record label releases the encryption clause, I'm sure Apple can release a converter that can convert the files to an open AAC.

Also, you can't use WMPlayer 11 for AAC streaming via DLNA. Blame that on Microsoft.


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Yes, but you can have up to 5 authorized computers playing your songs at one time. The PS3 could easily be counted as a computer and authorized for use, if only you could install iTunes on it.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:40 PM   #9
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if you want to know the work around for your problems it is simple and apple sully supported and incorporated this work around...

Whenever you buy a song or album from itunes, put it on an audio cd. Really. Burn it as an audio cd (not mp3 cd or data cd), and that will automatically convert all the songs from iTunes to the standard CD format. Then all you have to do is import it again. Once you import it, you can choose the format and are no longer limited to AAC or whatnot.
Its easy to do, costs very little (especially if you use a CD-RW), and keeps the same quality.
That way you can have all your songs as mp3 files in your iTunes library.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:42 PM   #10
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if you want to know the work around for your problems it is simple and apple sully supported and incorporated this work around...

Whenever you buy a song or album from itunes, put it on an audio cd. Really. Burn it as an audio cd (not mp3 cd or data cd), and that will automatically convert all the songs from iTunes to the standard CD format. Then all you have to do is import it again. Once you import it, you can choose the format and are no longer limited to AAC or whatnot.
Its easy to do, costs very little (especially if you use a CD-RW), and keeps the same quality.
That way you can have all your songs as mp3 files in your iTunes library.
That process would take days with the amount of songs I have, not to mention renaming all the songs, or will they retain the song name and artist?
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:47 PM   #11
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The laws are quite different in Canada, downloading music is not illegal at all.

However, I'm currently using a NAS (Network Assisted Storage) HDD setup, running a program called TwonkyMedia - It streams music to my PC using an iTunes server, and streams music to my PS3 as well. Also streams Pictures and Videos too.
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:02 PM   #12
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The laws are quite different in Canada, downloading music is not illegal at all.

WTH...not illegal at all???? i think you're on the crack.
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:04 PM   #13
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Encrypted songs on AAC is locked down to the computer you purchased it with and the iPods. That's just the way iTunes is - contractually obligated by the record companies. If the record label releases the encryption clause, I'm sure Apple can release a converter that can convert the files to an open AAC.

Also, you can't use WMPlayer 11 for AAC streaming via DLNA. Blame that on Microsoft.


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I can certainly use my Airport Express to stream music from any iTunes computer in the house to my stereo. Even AAC protected music.
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:15 PM   #14
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Use TVersity. I use it on my computer, and it streams right thru to my PS3. You see albums, artists, song titles, etc...it works great.
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:41 PM   #15
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Use TVersity. I use it on my computer, and it streams right thru to my PS3. You see albums, artists, song titles, etc...it works great.
The only problem with Tversity is that it is Windows only. I have yet to find any free media servers for Mac that don't require you to compile them from source.

It would be nice if you could hook up an external hard drive to your PS3 that is shareable throughout your home network. That way you can let the PS3 pull the media off directly, and your iTunes could just point to the network drive to share.
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:22 PM   #16
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I hear you you, but this is an Apple issue not a Sony one.

I haven't tried it yet, but from what I understand, you can burn your itunes mp4's to a cd and then use itunes to convert them to mp3's which will be playable on the PS3.

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Old 01-07-2008, 06:02 PM   #17
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Its easy to do, costs very little (especially if you use a CD-RW), and keeps the same quality.
It will not be the same quality. It may not be that much worse, but it will definitely not be the same quality. The first copy is compressed, and the algorithm used to compress the resulting audio CD would not compress and drop the same bits of audio. That being said, I doubt any person would notice MUCH of a difference -- if they are a casual listener.

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As an experiment, I wonder what would happen if I were to do this same process 10 or so times (burn mp3 to audio cd, rip, burn to audio cd, rip, burn to audio cd, etc). I wonder at which stage I would begin to notice a difference.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:30 PM   #18
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I think you will find that it is also a Sony thing, as they have their own portable music and media software for their protable music devices (minidisc, mp3 players).

The codec that Sony use (ATRAC) is arguably better quality than the mp3 encoder for the equivalent bit rate.

So why would Sony help support one of their competitors in this market?

I think the simple answer is they wouldn't.

Of course just my opinion.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:51 PM   #19
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I think you will find that it is also a Sony thing, as they have their own portable music and media software for their protable music devices (minidisc, mp3 players).

The codec that Sony use (ATRAC) is arguably better quality than the mp3 encoder for the equivalent bit rate.

So why would Sony help support one of their competitors in this market?

I think the simple answer is they wouldn't.

Of course just my opinion.
The PS3 supports AAC - without DRM..it's the DRM stuff from iTunes that's the problem. They also support WMA unless it has DRM attached.

For importing CD's and playback it supports AAC, MP3, ATRAC.

For playback add WMA to that list..might be others can't remember.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:59 PM   #20
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sorry, i understand what formats that PS3 plays back, I ws refering to the original post bit "you should be able to d/land install iTunes on your PS3.
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