Lupin the Third: Castle of Cagliostro (1979) 4K UHD - Blu-ray Forum

Dailyan · 12-15-2018, 11:59 PM

From the Amazon Japan listing for "The Secret of Mamo" UHD

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【2nd bullet trailer Legendary works loved for many years come home with long-awaited 4K ULTRA HD!】
■ The second edition of the movie "Lupine the Third Castle of Cagliostro"
In 1979 it was released as the second volume of theatrical version of the anime "Lupine the 3rd"
The immortal masterpiece "Lupine the Third Cagliostro's Castle" that gained great popularity, celebrated its 40th anniversary, also made 4K ULTRA HD.
This masterpiece is also known as first film director of Japan's masterpiece, Hayao Miyazaki's film, enthusiastic fans around the world.
This work which has been loved for many years comes back with long-awaited 4K ULTRA HD!

※ Lupine the Third Castle of Cagliostro [4K ULTRA HD] Details will be uploaded later on the VAP official website and elsewhere.

Source: https://www.amazon.co.jp/ãƒ«ãƒ‘ãƒ³ä¸...rds=B07LCT73DT

GenPion · 12-16-2018, 12:45 AM

If it includes English subtitles this is a day one pre order.

Dailyan · 12-16-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GenPion

If it includes English subtitles this is a day one pre order.

Honestly, even if it doesn't include subs I'll still get it barring bad PQ. "Space Adventure Cobra" and "Tomorrow's Joe 2" were both Xerox-level bad with grain scrubbing.

professorwho · 12-17-2018, 12:47 AM

I'm down for Mamo and Cagliostro if it has none of the DNR'd nonsense of the other TMS remasters.

Also, I've heard that subtitles with HDR can cause eyestrain- does that hold any water?

Dailyan · 12-17-2018, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

I'm down for Mamo and Cagliostro if it has none of the DNR'd nonsense of the other TMS remasters.

Also, I've heard that subtitles with HDR can cause eyestrain- does that hold any water?

If Cagliostro is anything like the Ghibli/Discotek Blu we should be in good hands. I'm more on the fence about Mamo but let's just hope that the prior TMS UHDs were (unfortunately) isolated cases. I can't say about the subtitles because I'm still rockin' SDR down-conversion with my 4K player.

SpaceBlackKnight · 12-17-2018, 03:44 AM

Cagliostro was Studio Ghilbi's work (with backing by Disney Enterprises Japan) and was reported to be a 8k scan finished on a 4k SDR workflow. Since SG will likely be providing the same elements to TMS/Fox, I say we'll be in good hands unless they decide to botch the HDR conversion somehow.

Space Adventure Cobra and Tomorrow's Joe 2 were solely TMS's doing and are simply upscales from 2k masters with degraining and some cropping, in addition to completely reworked colors for HDR. Mamo is 100% owned by TMS and has a 2k master from their elements, so if that's to go by then we're gonna be in for quite a "treat" if they decide to "remaster" it for a 4k UHD release.

Dailyan · 12-17-2018, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SpaceBlackKnight

Cagliostro was Studio Ghilbi's work (with backing by Disney Enterprises Japan) and was reported to be a 8k scan finished on a 4k SDR workflow. Since SG will likely be providing the same elements to TMS/Fox, I say we'll be in good hands unless they decide to botch the HDR conversion somehow.

Space Adventure Cobra and Tomorrow's Joe 2 were solely TMS's doing and are simply upscales from 2k masters with degraining and some cropping, in addition to completely reworked colors for HDR. Mamo is 100% owned by TMS and has a 2k master from their elements, so if that's to go by then we're gonna be in for quite a "treat" if they decide to "remaster" it for a 4k UHD release.

Again, Ghibli doesn't actually co-own the film; materials will still be owned by TMS. I highly doubt that Monkey Punch, even with somebody as influential as Miyazaki, will allow anybody outside of TMS to "co-own" a Lupin product. The biggest difference from Joe and Cobra is that Mamo was remastered for a limited theatrical release in Japan. I never owned the VAP Blu of "Mamo" nor have seen caps so I can't comment on how that looked.

GenPion · 12-17-2018, 05:01 PM

Hopefully the main Ghibli films on 4K aren’t far behind.

Dailyan · 12-17-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GenPion

Hopefully the main Ghibli films on 4K aren’t far behind.

The second I see that pre-order page for "Princess Mononoke"

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MechaGodzilla · 12-17-2018, 05:42 PM

I dare not imagine how expensive Miyazaki's filmography alone would be on UHD, imported from Japan!

GenPion · 12-17-2018, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

I dare not imagine how expensive Miyazaki's filmography alone would be on UHD, imported from Japan!

So what. I’ll get them one by one as they come out.

This is Ghibli we are talking about.

The JP 4K discs should be able to include lossless Japanese and English audio this time around too. With much higher disc space. They should all be on 100 GB discs.

kevin87 · 12-19-2018, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GenPion

So what. I’ll get them one by one as they come out.

This is Ghibli we are talking about.

The JP 4K discs should be able to include lossless Japanese and English audio this time around too. With much higher disc space. They should all be on 100 GB discs.

I would, but I can't bring myself to pay more than $50 for a film lol It'd be nice if Cinedigm/GKIDS/Shout did 4K but I'd guess they probably won't.

GenPion · 12-19-2018, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin87

I would, but I can't bring myself to pay more than $50 for a film lol It'd be nice if Cinedigm/GKIDS/Shout did 4K but I'd guess they probably won't.

Since the studio who has them in the US doesn’t release on 4K it would probably be years (if ever) for them to release that way here. If it was stil with Disney I’m sure it would be different. But I’ll be importing the JP 4Ks as long as they include English friendly options on the releases whenever it is they start coming out.

slask · 12-31-2018, 01:32 PM

I want this so bad.
Just wish there was an European edition......................

Dailyan · 12-31-2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by slask

I want this so bad.
Just wish there was an European edition......................

I could see StudioCanal possibly sub-licensing it, like they did for their old Blu, if they start doing Ghibli UHDs; that is when Ghibli UHDs get released in the first place.

Shawn Elestren · 01-01-2019, 10:50 AM

The 2000 Manga sub or bust.

Dailyan · 02-03-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Elestren

The 2000 Manga sub or bust.

I assume you meant dub. It seems that TMS aren’t fond of the Manga dub considering that the Disney Miyazaki Collection Blu and the Fathom events all used the Streamline dub for the English alternative. I don’t blame them though; I’m not a fan of the “new” sound effects.

GenPion · 02-03-2019, 03:54 PM

Any word on subtitles yet? Would love to import this if it’s subbed.

Dailyan · 02-03-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GenPion

Any word on subtitles yet? Would love to import this if it’s subbed.

Nothing so far (Technically this hasn't been officially announced).

GenPion · 02-03-2019, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dailyan

Nothing so far (Technically this hasn't been officially announced).

Thanks. Still hoping it’s English friendly.

12-16-2018, 12:45 AM	#2
GenPion Blu-ray.com Reviewer Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Texas 4K collection:1218 Blu-ray collection:6999 DVD collection:44 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:271	If it includes English subtitles this is a day one pre order.

12-17-2018, 12:47 AM	#4
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	I'm down for Mamo and Cagliostro if it has none of the DNR'd nonsense of the other TMS remasters. Also, I've heard that subtitles with HDR can cause eyestrain- does that hold any water?

12-17-2018, 03:44 AM	#6
SpaceBlackKnight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2018 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:346 Digital collection:20	Cagliostro was Studio Ghilbi's work (with backing by Disney Enterprises Japan) and was reported to be a 8k scan finished on a 4k SDR workflow. Since SG will likely be providing the same elements to TMS/Fox, I say we'll be in good hands unless they decide to botch the HDR conversion somehow. Space Adventure Cobra and Tomorrow's Joe 2 were solely TMS's doing and are simply upscales from 2k masters with degraining and some cropping, in addition to completely reworked colors for HDR. Mamo is 100% owned by TMS and has a 2k master from their elements, so if that's to go by then we're gonna be in for quite a "treat" if they decide to "remaster" it for a 4k UHD release.

12-17-2018, 05:01 PM	#8
GenPion Blu-ray.com Reviewer Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Texas 4K collection:1218 Blu-ray collection:6999 DVD collection:44 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:271	Hopefully the main Ghibli films on 4K aren’t far behind.

12-17-2018, 05:42 PM	#10
MechaGodzilla Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Sweden 4K collection:96 Blu-ray collection:660 DVD collection:234	I dare not imagine how expensive Miyazaki's filmography alone would be on UHD, imported from Japan!

12-31-2018, 01:32 PM	#14
slask Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2011 Location:Italy 4K collection:364 Blu-ray collection:804 DVD collection:24	I want this so bad. Just wish there was an European edition......................

01-01-2019, 10:50 AM	#16
Shawn Elestren Power Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Edinburgh, Scotland 4K collection:45 Blu-ray collection:386 DVD collection:12 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 295	The 2000 Manga sub or bust.

02-03-2019, 03:54 PM	#18
GenPion Blu-ray.com Reviewer Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Texas 4K collection:1218 Blu-ray collection:6999 DVD collection:44 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:271	Any word on subtitles yet? Would love to import this if it’s subbed.

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