Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 4K UHD (1980) - Blu-ray Forum

Viking61 · 01-14-2020, 05:32 PM

Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 4K UHD (1980)

mysticwaterfall · 01-14-2020, 05:45 PM

Looking forward to the Hoth battle on disc. Probably my favorite battle of the series.

FubarFrenzy · 01-14-2020, 06:33 PM

Agreed, can't wait for this one. The environments on Hoth should look great with HDR

spider-neil · 01-14-2020, 10:23 PM

My second favorite movie of all time. Day one purchase when it gets released in the UK.

nick4Knight · 01-15-2020, 01:31 AM

Favourite Star Wars movie. Best one. It's really a pity George didn't hand over the directing on the PT similarly as he did on Empire Strikes Back. But anyways. Exciting news seeing individuals! This and the OT's other two will be owned promptly.

Bn43 · 01-15-2020, 01:43 AM

I kept reading that Disney are great preservationists. What a load of crap. They could have bargained with Lucas to get the unedited trilogy as well. I'll just have to stick with the comparatively mediocre 4K fan restorations.

Flyers99 · 01-15-2020, 01:46 AM

Going to be weird for me to watch the prequels & originals without the 20th Century Fox fanfare

Bn43 · 01-15-2020, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyers99

Going to be weird for me to watch the prequels & originals without the 20th Century Fox fanfare

Why wouldn't it still be there? They're owned by Disney.

crackedknee · 01-15-2020, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyers99

Going to be weird for me to watch the prequels & originals without the 20th Century Fox fanfare

The Fox fanfares were reinstated on the Disney+ (streaming service) UHD versions, so I have some hope that the fanfare will be included again on the upcoming disc versions. No reason now why it should not, since Disney now owns Fox.

Geoff D · 01-15-2020, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bn43

I kept reading that Disney are great preservationists. What a load of crap. They could have bargained with Lucas to get the unedited trilogy as well. I'll just have to sticky with the comparatively mediocre 4K fan restorations.

They have preserved it all, just as LFL did before them. You're just not going to see it during George's lifetime IMO.

PS

4K77 is the balls

Bn43 · 01-15-2020, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

They have preserved it all, just as LFL did before them. You're just not going to see it during George's lifetime IMO.

PS

4K77 is the balls

George Lucas wanted Special Edition to be the version that will be known by posterity. He said that one day there would be no prints of the original versions and that Special Edition will be the only way people know the films as. He seems just like the kind of person who would make Disney agree to never release the unedited versions. Wouldn't be surprised if they destroyed many of the original special effects shots.

4K77 looks good for what it is. Would look a lot better from an original print with HDR is all I'm saying.

Falaskan · 01-15-2020, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bn43

I kept reading that Disney are great preservationists. What a load of crap. They could have bargained with Lucas to get the unedited trilogy as well. I'll just have to stick with the comparatively mediocre 4K fan restorations.

You’d think they could have, even if it was for less money. But maybe that was a dealbreaker for George.

Flyers99 · 01-15-2020, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crackedknee

The Fox fanfares were reinstated on the Disney+ (streaming service) UHD versions, so I have some hope that the fanfare will be included again on the upcoming disc versions. No reason now why it should not, since Disney now owns Fox.

Good to know. Thanks

Geoff D · 01-15-2020, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bn43

George Lucas wanted Special Edition to be the version that will be known by posterity. He said that one day there would be no prints of the original versions and that Special Edition will be the only way people know the films as. He seems just like the kind of person who would make Disney agree to never release the unedited versions. Wouldn't be surprised if they destroyed many of the original special effects shots.

4K77 looks good for what it is. Would look a lot better from an original print with HDR is all I'm saying.

They literally re-used the original elements to create a lot of the SE fixes, they didn't then throw them away afterwards. And if some of it has actually been recomposited again for the 4K versions (see the Digital Bits' list of changes) then that proves the VFX elements still exist. LFL archived everything of consequence. What they'd do with prints of the finished film is very different than cherry vault elements, though Lucas still has his personal Technicolour print of SW and we know for an actual fact that a 70mm print was loaned out for a recent VFX seminar.

Lucas does indeed seem like the person who would make them agree to not release the OG versions, either by a gentleman's agreement (seeing as he is still the de facto creator of the content if no longer the owner, and rights of authorship are still being respected as they would any living filmmaker) or by contract, but actually destroying the OG material? Nope. If that actually makes it harder to comprehend, that all that stuff is just sitting in the LFL vaults and we can't see it, then that's not my problem. It is what it is.

RalphoR · 01-15-2020, 02:35 AM

Uggh...these placeholder covers are so bad. Please don't screw up the steelbooks.

crackedknee · 01-15-2020, 02:43 AM

About 25 years ago, George was going around trying to champion film preservation at various film festivals and film museums around the world. Around this time, while preparing for the SE versions, he realized that the prints of the original Star Wars movies, though somewhat recent compared to these old films, were needing their own restoration (being on the verge of degrading, due to the materials used at the time, the colors were in danger of fading). And so all (the original versions) were restored in and of themselves (not just for use in the soon to be released SE versions).

IndyMLVC · 01-15-2020, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bn43

4K77 looks good for what it is. Would look a lot better from an original print with HDR is all I'm saying.

That doesn't make it mediocre. Not by a long shot.

Falaskan · 01-15-2020, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

That doesn't make it mediocre. Not by a long shot.

I’ve heard they vary a bit in quality throughout the prints.

Bn43 · 01-15-2020, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

That doesn't make it mediocre. Not by a long shot.

"Comparatively," yes it does.

phobicsquirrel · 01-15-2020, 11:41 AM

Covers suck. And the bottom area with the device list is becoming silly AF. Hope the steelbooks are better. At least they aren't only doing SW in that horrible set.

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01-14-2020, 05:45 PM	#2
mysticwaterfall Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2013 Location:Right Behind You 4K collection:568 Blu-ray collection:1949 DVD collection:244 Trading Score:158	Looking forward to the Hoth battle on disc. Probably my favorite battle of the series.

01-14-2020, 06:33 PM	#3
FubarFrenzy Active Member Member since:Jun 2015 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:97	Agreed, can't wait for this one. The environments on Hoth should look great with HDR

01-14-2020, 10:23 PM	#4
spider-neil Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2011	My second favorite movie of all time. Day one purchase when it gets released in the UK.

01-15-2020, 01:31 AM	#5
nick4Knight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Perth, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:384 Blu-ray collection:714	Favourite Star Wars movie. Best one. It's really a pity George didn't hand over the directing on the PT similarly as he did on Empire Strikes Back. But anyways. Exciting news seeing individuals! This and the OT's other two will be owned promptly.

01-15-2020, 01:46 AM	#7
Flyers99 Power Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:Philadelphia 4K collection:221 Blu-ray collection:565 Trading Score:20	Going to be weird for me to watch the prequels & originals without the 20th Century Fox fanfare

01-15-2020, 02:35 AM	#15
RalphoR Blu-ray Prince Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:12	Uggh...these placeholder covers are so bad. Please don't screw up the steelbooks.

01-15-2020, 02:43 AM	#16
crackedknee Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:445 DVD collection:195 MA collection:1542 Digital collection:878 iTunes collection:28 Trading Score:606	About 25 years ago, George was going around trying to champion film preservation at various film festivals and film museums around the world. Around this time, while preparing for the SE versions, he realized that the prints of the original Star Wars movies, though somewhat recent compared to these old films, were needing their own restoration (being on the verge of degrading, due to the materials used at the time, the colors were in danger of fading). And so all (the original versions) were restored in and of themselves (not just for use in the soon to be released SE versions).

01-15-2020, 11:41 AM	#20
phobicsquirrel Banned Member since:Jan 2011	Covers suck. And the bottom area with the device list is becoming silly AF. Hope the steelbooks are better. At least they aren't only doing SW in that horrible set.

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