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Old 02-11-2020, 11:31 PM   #1
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So it looks like Sony is going back to BD-R? It even says Blu-ray Disc on the spine minus the Blu-ray symbol.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:39 PM   #2
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Fine by me.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:44 PM   #3
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Fine by me.
So you're OK with paying for a product that tends to cost more than a typical Blu-ray and will not last as long?
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:53 PM   #4
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So you're OK with paying for a product that tends to cost more than a typical Blu-ray and will not last as long?

Look, it's simple. If I pay $20 for a BD-R and it lasts 10 years, I got my money's worth. Can you think of many things that don't need to be replaced that often? TVs, cars, couches, clothing, microwaves...nothing lasts forever.

And I've never seen a BD-R cost more than a regular Blu-ray.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:59 PM   #5
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Look, it's simple. If I pay $20 for a BD-R and it lasts 10 years, I got my money's worth. Can you think of many things that don't need to be replaced that often? TVs, cars, couches, clothing, microwaves...nothing lasts forever.

And I've never seen a BD-R cost more than a regular Blu-ray.
Yes, but it's still possible to replace all the things you listed. Blu-Ray is likely to be the last major physical media format. If these discs fail, it won't be possible to buy a replacement in ten years. That's why people want BDs, which will last much longer.
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Wow, this is unfortunate. This isn’t a movie I care about, but I’m still worried at the extent they’ll be doing this for future MOD releases. I wish they would just license out titles that they release on BD-R.
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Hopefully this is just a one-off and won't effect Just One Of The Guys.
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Look, it's simple. If I pay $20 for a BD-R and it lasts 10 years, I got my money's worth. Can you think of many things that don't need to be replaced that often? TVs, cars, couches, clothing, microwaves...nothing lasts forever.

And I've never seen a BD-R cost more than a regular Blu-ray.
Most of the Lionsgate BD-R cost more than their regular Blu-rays. Also, BD-Rs are only in circulation for a certain amount of time and become unavailable quicker in comparison to Blu-rays. If your BD-R goes bad, there is a good chance that you WON'T be able to replace it.
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:08 AM   #9
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Hopefully this is just a one-off and won't effect Just One Of The Guys.
That's what I'm hoping for as well or that it's some sort of mistake. They haven't finished with the Morgan Creek titles and it would be a shame to see the Pledge go to BD-R only.
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Most of the Lionsgate BD-R cost more than their regular Blu-rays. Also, BD-Rs are only in circulation for a certain amount of time and become unavailable quicker in comparison to Blu-rays. If your BD-R goes bad, there is a good chance that you WON'T be able to replace it.
I'm just not worried about it.
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I'm just not worried about it.
I'm happy that this isn't an issue for you, but for most of us it is. I buy a film with the intent that's going to last for a very long time.
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"A separate study conducted by TUV Rheinland suggests that recordable BD-R can last up to 50 years if stored at 80 degrees Celcius and at 80% relative humidity for 750 hours."

http://www.cdrom2go.com › blog › longevity-of-dvd-discs-vs-blu-ray-discs
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"A separate study conducted by TUV Rheinland suggests that recordable BD-R can last up to 50 years if stored at 80 degrees Celcius and at 80% relative humidity for 750 hours."

http://www.cdrom2go.com › blog › longevity-of-dvd-discs-vs-blu-ray-discs
The link doesn't take me to a study, but some sort of shop.
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There are still some films I’ve been hoping Sony’s MOD program reissues, like La Bamba and Bye Bye Birdie. Hopefully their existing MOD films also won’t go BD-R.
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I'm uninformed. What's so bad about BD-R? Is it the disc itself that's unreliable or...?
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And I've never seen a BD-R cost more than a regular Blu-ray.
Then you haven't been looking.

They are typically $5-$10 more, because there's little to no retailer markdown, since they aren't warehouse stock and are made on demand instead. They also rarely if ever go on sale, or are included in sales.
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I'm just not worried about it.
Your avatar says otherwise.
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BD-Rs indeed don't last nearly as long as a pressed BD, but there are cases of pressed Lionsgate and older Fox/MGM BDs made at certain facilities that can exhibit severe read issues or go entirely bad sooner than a burnt BD-R would.

OTOH, one thing about BD-Rs are that they aren't copy protected (at least the Sony Choice BD-R of Gas, Food, Lodging I once rented). So if you're all frantic about the purchased BD-R possibly going bad, you can just drag-n-paste and preserve however you like.
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Most of the Lionsgate BD-R cost more than their regular Blu-rays. Also, BD-Rs are only in circulation for a certain amount of time and become unavailable quicker in comparison to Blu-rays. If your BD-R goes bad, there is a good chance that you WON'T be able to replace it.
Yep, the Lionsgate BD-R of Wonderstruck was only in print for like a year. (Aside from the fact that the compression was so awful that it looked like a 1990s Quicktime movie)
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OTOH, one thing about BD-Rs are that they aren't copy protected (at least the Sony Choice BD-R of Gas, Food, Lodging I once rented). So if you're all frantic about the purchased BD-R possibly going bad, you can just drag-n-paste and preserve however you like.
The thing about that is that you'd have to copy ALL your discs, because there's no way to know which one will go bad until after it happens. You'd need to copy every single one as a preventative thing.
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