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Old 01-19-2008, 10:20 AM   #1
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Hi everybody

Here is my video configuration:

Intel Core 2 Duo 6700
8800 GTX 768 Mo (2 DVI-I)
Blu-Ray player: Pioneer BDC 202 + Power DVD Ultra 7.3
Monitor : LG 22" 1680*1050 connected to the graphic card with DVI-HDMI cable.

I want to be able to watch 1080P Blu-Ray movies on my PC screen so i want to sell my "old" monitor to buy a 1920*1200 monitor.

But first i would like to know if i could really display 1080P with my graphic card (8800 GTX) cause i have read on the graphic card box that the highest HDTV resolution it can display is 1920*1080 but only 1080i through DVI link. I updated the driver but i still don't know i can take benefit from 1080P.

Moreover according to your opinion which 24" (or 26") 1920*1200 monitor is the best. I mean considering colorimetry, contrast etc. Because i want the best 1080P monitor. Im still hesitating between 24" and 26"...

Give me your opinion
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:53 AM   #2
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I have the NEC 2690WUXI 26'' monitor and I'm very satisfied with it. JTK (our own Blu-ray King ) went for the 24'' model and is happy with it too. So the NECs are a definite recommandation. Sorry, I can't comment on the graphics card your using.

btw, they cannot display interlaced signals, so your software player should be able to do the deinterlacing before it sends it to the screen.
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Old 01-19-2008, 12:11 PM   #3
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001234

Something like that is what i would recomend. Does not have to be that model but but similar if not same specs. Good luck.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:18 PM   #4
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I have the Samsung 24" SyncMaster 245BW and love it.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:18 PM   #5
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I have the NEC 2690WUXI 26'' monitor and I'm very satisfied with it. JTK (our own Blu-ray King ) went for the 24'' model and is happy with it too. So the NECs are a definite recommandation. Sorry, I can't comment on the graphics card your using.

btw, they cannot display interlaced signals, so your software player should be able to do the deinterlacing before it sends it to the screen.
Those monitors look great. Thanks HDJK and Papi4baby

Do you know if they are 24p? I am looking for the best
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:16 AM   #6
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Those monitors look great. Thanks HDJK and Papi4baby

Do you know if they are 24p? I am looking for the best
Unfortunately no 24P mode for those But AFAIK there is no PC monitor that can display 24P.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:12 AM   #7
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Unfortunately no 24P mode for those But AFAIK there is no PC monitor that can display 24P.
But i hope it doesn't mean i'll get poor picture quality while watching a Blu movie on the monitor?? For those who own a 1920 * 1200 monitor do you get nice picture quality with your monitor?
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Old 01-20-2008, 11:10 AM   #8
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I have an older 1920*1200 monitor that only does 1080i due to no HDCP support and movies look phenomenal in 1080i on it.
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Old 01-20-2008, 11:21 AM   #9
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I would recommend this to anyone: Gateway FHD2400 24" Widescreen HD LCD Display It's worked out very well for me thus far and am fully impressed with it.

By the way, yes I do get 'superb' picture quality with mine. . .

Here are some specs:

* 1080p support with HDCP
* 1920 x 1200 widescreen high-definition resolution
* 1000:1 contrast ratio
* 3ms response time
* 4 USB 2.0 ports

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Old 01-20-2008, 01:51 PM   #10
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I'm currently using a Samsung Syncmaster 244T. For some reason that picture makes it look much less wide than it is.

Being that I don't have a Blu-ray drive in my PC yet I can't comment on how well HDCP works (some monitors are known to be a little fickle with encrypted streams despite having support for HDCP). I do regularly play 1080p video on it though.

Picture quality is fantastic and absolutely destroys my old 19in Sony LCD. Price is still quite high but that's because of the panel quality - it's S-PVA instead of the more common Twisted Neumatic (which is partly why the 24in Samsung some one posted above is a few hundred cheaper). This may not be very important to you and in fact you may be just as satisfied with a monitor at a more wallet friendly price but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

Also, it's a true 8bit display (8 per RGB channel) meaning it doesn't use dithering to simulate 24bit TrueColor (most TN displays are 6bit). In case anyone is wondering 32bit color is a lie - as far as your desktop is concerned anyway. The remaining 8 bits in between 24 and 32 are used for quantifying the pixel's transparency.

As for your video card it should be fine since it's max res is 2560x1600 (not sure what they're talking about 1080i for but I'm going to assume they mean when you connect it to an actual TV - I don't know if I'm reading your statement in the proper context to say for certain though).

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Old 01-20-2008, 02:01 PM   #11
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But i hope it doesn't mean i'll get poor picture quality while watching a Blu movie on the monitor?? For those who own a 1920 * 1200 monitor do you get nice picture quality with your monitor?
No, the PQ is fantastic And the slight judder you get is less intruding than on a 52'' TV
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:14 PM   #12
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But i hope it doesn't mean i'll get poor picture quality while watching a Blu movie on the monitor?? For those who own a 1920 * 1200 monitor do you get nice picture quality with your monitor?
Yes!
The properties state that it is 1920x1200 @ 60Hz.
The machine is built around the BD drive and the picture is phenomenal.

Remember, being as BDs are 1920x1080, there will be small bars at top and bottom of the screen.
Picture rocks though!
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:31 PM   #13
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I have the Samsung 24" SyncMaster 245BW and love it.
Same here. The 245BW is da bomb fo sho.

That's what I'm using as well, and all I can say is that it's great for Blu-ray.
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Old 01-20-2008, 06:30 PM   #14
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I really want to get the new 24 inch Gateway that has HDMI support as well as a highly Glossy Finish along with its 1900 1200 resolution. Hey Dadkins have you gotten 3:10 to Yuma to work on your PC?
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:13 PM   #15
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I really want to get the new 24 inch Gateway that has HDMI support as well as a highly Glossy Finish along with its 1900 1200 resolution. Hey Dadkins have you gotten 3:10 to Yuma to work on your PC?
I just sold a brand new 24" Gateway monitor less than a month and a half ago.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ateway+monitor
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:48 PM   #16
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I'm currently using a Samsung Syncmaster 244T. For some reason that picture makes it look much less wide than it is.

Being that I don't have a Blu-ray drive in my PC yet I can't comment on how well HDCP works (some monitors are known to be a little fickle with encrypted streams despite having support for HDCP). I do regularly play 1080p video on it though.

Picture quality is fantastic and absolutely destroys my old 19in Sony LCD. Price is still quite high but that's because of the panel quality - it's S-PVA instead of the more common Twisted Neumatic (which is partly why the 24in Samsung some one posted above is a few hundred cheaper). This may not be very important to you and in fact you may be just as satisfied with a monitor at a more wallet friendly price but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

Also, it's a true 8bit display (8 per RGB channel) meaning it doesn't use dithering to simulate 24bit TrueColor (most TN displays are 6bit). In case anyone is wondering 32bit color is a lie - as far as your desktop is concerned anyway. The remaining 8 bits in between 24 and 32 are used for quantifying the pixel's transparency.

As for your video card it should be fine since it's max res is 2560x1600 (not sure what they're talking about 1080i for but I'm going to assume they mean when you connect it to an actual TV - I don't know if I'm reading your statement in the proper context to say for certain though).
Yes for 1080i they are talking about maximum HDTV resolution!!

So considering your reply i think i should buy a S-PVA panel instead of the more common TN since it is better color quality. I hope the price is not too high ... But honestly comparing both panels i could really see a big difference? I mean i own Planet Earth in Blu-Ray Disc which is actually a very nice documentary and i want to know if the picture quality is higher with a S-PVA especially for such a documentary?

An other question, if i am using a DVI-HDMI cable to connect the graphic card to the monitor the bit rate will be higher than a DVI-DVI cable or i'll see no real improvement?
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Hi everybody

Here is my video configuration:

Intel Core 2 Duo 6700
8800 GTX 768 Mo (2 DVI-I)
Blu-Ray player: Pioneer BDC 202 + Power DVD Ultra 7.3
Monitor : LG 22" 1680*1050 connected to the graphic card with DVI-HDMI cable.

I want to be able to watch 1080P Blu-Ray movies on my PC screen so i want to sell my "old" monitor to buy a 1920*1200 monitor.

But first i would like to know if i could really display 1080P with my graphic card (8800 GTX) cause i have read on the graphic card box that the highest HDTV resolution it can display is 1920*1080 but only 1080i through DVI link. I updated the driver but i still don't know i can take benefit from 1080P.

Moreover according to your opinion which 24" (or 26") 1920*1200 monitor is the best. I mean considering colorimetry, contrast etc. Because i want the best 1080P monitor. Im still hesitating between 24" and 26"...

Give me your opinion
Pay no attention to the HDTV resolution on the box - thats for TV. I'm an A+ Technician and I know that the 8800GTX highest res is 2560x1600. HDTV (TV is the moniker that you need to address here) is through the HDTV adaptor(component) or if you are using it for HDTV(using a hdtv connected to a pc). That's what the Nvidia performance setup is for - one is for TV, but I do not treat my monitor as a TV - I treat it as a monitor, so it displays the resolution that I desire. If your resolution is set for 1920x1080 - it will display this through your DVI as long as your monitor can handle it. If you tell the Nvidia setup app that its a TV it will limit what your monitor can take (i.e. 1080i). This video card was designed around Nvidia's Extreme HD which has resolutions beyond 1080p. Set your monitor as a monitor, Make sure that it has resolutions that meet or exceed 1920x1800 - (your monitor is a little wanting). If you want to do this through analog (vga) you can add AnyDVD HD (no HTPC should be without it). Just make sure that your monitors resolution meets or exceeds 1900x1080, your card already does - you can get a picture better than some high-end theaters with the right pc. I hope this helps.

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Yes for 1080i they are talking about maximum HDTV resolution!!

So considering your reply i think i should buy a S-PVA panel instead of the more common TN since it is better color quality. I hope the price is not too high ... But honestly comparing both panels i could really see a big difference? I mean i own Planet Earth in Blu-Ray Disc which is actually a very nice documentary and i want to know if the picture quality is higher with a S-PVA especially for such a documentary?

An other question, if i am using a DVI-HDMI cable to connect the graphic card to the monitor the bit rate will be higher than a DVI-DVI cable or i'll see no real improvement?
No real improvement between DVI-DVI to DVI - HDMI. Both are 0's and 1's (unless its DVI-A, then you will see a difference).
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I have the NEC 2690WUXI 26'' monitor and I'm very satisfied with it. JTK (our own Blu-ray King ) went for the 24'' model and is happy with it too. So the NECs are a definite recommandation. Sorry, I can't comment on the graphics card your using.

btw, they cannot display interlaced signals, so your software player should be able to do the deinterlacing before it sends it to the screen.
This is true - its already deinterlaced - most people don't know that. Monitors do not have an interlaced signal.
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Unfortunately no 24P mode for those But AFAIK there is no PC monitor that can display 24P.
24p (frames per second) has to deal with the way the film is shot in relation to the televisions pick it up (interlacing). All PC monitors are progressive scan, they show all of the frames at one time. Computer do not have to worry about deinterlacing - and can play at mind boggeling frame rates, the original posters video card (8800gtx) can play F.E.A.R at 386p (at a low resolution - translate less detail). But when it comes to 24p - Computers are generally at 60p because thats what the monitor does - 60hz, and you can experiment by increasing you refresh rate to 75 or to 85 (I do not recommend anything over 85 - and I also would look at the maximum refresh rate of your monitor and your video card. No 24p - Ha, the PC world is beyond that, watch your blu-ray in all its glory if your monitor is up to it and if your are daring - see how far beyond 1080p can you scale it.
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