Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo. / The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (4K UHD) - Blu-ray Forum

Dan8700 · 09-17-2021, 05:12 PM

Il Buono, il Brutto, il Cattivo 4K Blu-ray

This Leone masterpiece is getting a UHD+Blu-ray release in Italy on Nov 17. Virtually nothing is known atm. Judging from the photo, it will be a limited steelbook edition with a numbered card.

BluBonnet · 09-17-2021, 05:15 PM

Zitto e prendi i miei soldi!

andreasy969 · 09-18-2021, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan8700

Judging from the photo, it will be a limited steelbook edition with a numbered card.

No, I'm pretty sure it will be a keep case with (usually very nice) slip cover - that's what those Eagle 4Kult releases always are.

Gojira-96x · 09-18-2021, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andreasy969

No, I'm pretty sure it will be a keep case with (usually very nice) slip cover - that's what those Eagle 4Kult releases always are.

Yes

Gojira-96x · 09-19-2021, 06:26 PM

It will be the 175 mins version (Italian) ��

Riki333 · 10-15-2021, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gojira-96x

It will be the 175 mins version (Italian) ��

Yes, this has been confirmed by Eagle.
There will be also a DVD, full of extra material.

Andy CYP · 10-16-2021, 10:22 AM

Will be the yellow MGM restoration. Lets see if they do any work on it.

SymbioticFunction · 10-20-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy CYP

Will be the yellow MGM restoration. Lets see if they do any work on it.

I'm assuming it'll be the same PQ as the US 4K UHD, only with the additional Italian scenes added in. Hope it has English audio. I'll be very curious to find out further information on this release.

Bates_Motel · 10-20-2021, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

I'm assuming it'll be the same PQ as the US 4K UHD, only with the additional Italian scenes added in. Hope it has English audio. I'll be very curious to find out further information on this release.

Why would you assume that? Kino did their own work on the UHD, so unless Eagle licensed that then re-cut the whole film, it will most likely be the yellow, non-color-corrected MGM master.

Andy CYP · 10-20-2021, 07:34 PM

Yeah i doubt Kino will hand over all that hard work they did unless paid handsomely.

Will be down to Eagle to clean up the piss yellow. Question is will they bother?

grim_tales · 10-20-2021, 07:41 PM

I was going to import the Kino UHD and now this... hmmm.
That cover looks quite nice, reminds me of the first DVD cover when the extended version came out.

Andy CYP · 10-31-2021, 10:16 AM

Amazon have updated the listing images to now show the Numbered card.

Still dont no pretty much anything else and its out in a few weeks.

Dubliner1 · 11-07-2021, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by andreasy969

No, I'm pretty sure it will be a keep case with (usually very nice) slip cover - that's what those Eagle 4Kult releases always are.

I believe the slipcovers (or perhaps it's just the cards?) are limited to 1000 tho.

Either way, Amazon.It no longer shipping 'Total Recall' with a slipcover.

I ordered 2 neither had one

andreasy969 · 11-08-2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubliner1

I believe the slipcovers (or perhaps it's just the cards?) are limited to 1000 tho.

Either way, Amazon.It no longer shipping 'Total Recall' with a slipcover.

I ordered 2 neither had one

I think both are limited, but the cards more so (?). I only have discs with both, but honestly couldn't care less about the cards, but would, more often than not, dearly miss the nice slip.

Pecker · 11-09-2021, 11:45 AM

Tech question.

Now the Kino is out there, how difficult would it be to unofficially copy what they've done.

I don't mean ripping the disc. I mean running the master (to which I presume they have access) and a Kino disc (to which they definitely have access for a few $s) into some sort of programme which analyses and them flags up how much the red was raised, magenta decreased, black levels changed, etc., etc., in each shot.

Then just apply something similar.

Dubliner1 · 11-13-2021, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by andreasy969

I think both are limited, but the cards more so (?). I only have discs with both, but honestly couldn't care less about the cards, but would, more often than not, dearly miss the nice slip.

Yes the cards are limited to 1000 only (makes sense since they are numbered). As always the slipcovers won't be forever but I'm sure not as limited as the cards.
Don't care too much for the cards but I think the slipcovers on the Eagle releases are lovely and always want to get them.
Here's hoping TGTBTU get's a nice release by them transfer wise and is English friendly- I already love the look of the slipcover.

Bates_Motel · 11-13-2021, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pecker

Tech question.

Now the Kino is out there, how difficult would it be to unofficially copy what they've done.

I don't mean ripping the disc. I mean running the master (to which I presume they have access) and a Kino disc (to which they definitely have access for a few $s) into some sort of programme which analyses and them flags up how much the red was raised, magenta decreased, black levels changed, etc., etc., in each shot.

Then just apply something similar.

Anyone could re-grade the green master. Kino's work was done in some cases shot by shot, so no "automatic" program can just copy that. Kino's work wasn't perfect with the crushed blacks and some shots that just aren't properly correctable, so until someone goes back to the scan to do it properly, it will never look great.

Pecker · 11-16-2021, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Anyone could re-grade the green master. Kino's work was done in some cases shot by shot, so no "automatic" program can just copy that. Kino's work wasn't perfect with the crushed blacks and some shots that just aren't properly correctable, so until someone goes back to the scan to do it properly, it will never look great.

I am aware of that. I suspect that for most of the film a blanket adjustment would suffice. Then run both alongside each other, it would become very clear very quickly which shots required additional work.

barrett75 · 11-17-2021, 07:29 PM

as i said in the international forum, master here is the MGM-yellow-Ritrovata one, but with italian credits and inserts (il Brutto... and so on) and the italian 175m cut (so no Grotto scene and other extended anomalies). it's an obvious bd-100 where 92gb are for the main feature; video bitrate is very high (70/80/90 mbps) with the only dark scenes a little lower (30/40 mbps). we have italian and english mono and english 5.1. subtitles only in italian. i like it very much but if you can't stand ritrovata grading, just don't buy it. i'm happy with both versions of the movie (kino and eagle).

andreasy969 · 11-25-2021, 03:10 PM

amazon.it order is live for me today.

I ordererd mine elsewhere and it shipped 2 days ago. And I hope that wasn't a mistake - never used the shop before. The packaging can't be worse for sure.

EDIT: Just received a DPD tracking notification and it's in Germany already, so yes, I think it wasn't.

09-17-2021, 05:12 PM	#1
Dan8700 Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Rome, Italy 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:1178	Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo. / The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (4K UHD) Il Buono, il Brutto, il Cattivo 4K Blu-ray This Leone masterpiece is getting a UHD+Blu-ray release in Italy on Nov 17. Virtually nothing is known atm. Judging from the photo, it will be a limited steelbook edition with a numbered card. Last edited by Deciazulado; 09-23-2021 at 06:30 PM.

11-25-2021, 03:10 PM	#20
andreasy969 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2008 Trading Score:125	amazon.it order is live for me today. I ordererd mine elsewhere and it shipped 2 days ago. And I hope that wasn't a mistake - never used the shop before. The packaging can't be worse for sure. EDIT: Just received a DPD tracking notification and it's in Germany already, so yes, I think it wasn't. Last edited by andreasy969; 11-25-2021 at 07:27 PM.

09-17-2021, 05:15 PM	#2
BluBonnet Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Trading Score:1	Zitto e prendi i miei soldi!

09-19-2021, 06:26 PM	#5
Gojira-96x Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2020 Location:Italia	It will be the 175 mins version (Italian) ��

10-16-2021, 10:22 AM	#7
Andy CYP Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:London 4K collection:87 Blu-ray collection:321 Trading Score:1	Will be the yellow MGM restoration. Lets see if they do any work on it.

10-20-2021, 07:34 PM	#10
Andy CYP Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:London 4K collection:87 Blu-ray collection:321 Trading Score:1	Yeah i doubt Kino will hand over all that hard work they did unless paid handsomely. Will be down to Eagle to clean up the piss yellow. Question is will they bother?

10-20-2021, 07:41 PM	#11
grim_tales Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2013 Location:St. Albans, UK	I was going to import the Kino UHD and now this... hmmm. That cover looks quite nice, reminds me of the first DVD cover when the extended version came out.

11-09-2021, 11:45 AM	#15
Pecker Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Yorkshire	Tech question. Now the Kino is out there, how difficult would it be to unofficially copy what they've done. I don't mean ripping the disc. I mean running the master (to which I presume they have access) and a Kino disc (to which they definitely have access for a few $s) into some sort of programme which analyses and them flags up how much the red was raised, magenta decreased, black levels changed, etc., etc., in each shot. Then just apply something similar.

11-17-2021, 07:29 PM	#19
barrett75 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Italy	as i said in the international forum, master here is the MGM-yellow-Ritrovata one, but with italian credits and inserts (il Brutto... and so on) and the italian 175m cut (so no Grotto scene and other extended anomalies). it's an obvious bd-100 where 92gb are for the main feature; video bitrate is very high (70/80/90 mbps) with the only dark scenes a little lower (30/40 mbps). we have italian and english mono and english 5.1. subtitles only in italian. i like it very much but if you can't stand ritrovata grading, just don't buy it. i'm happy with both versions of the movie (kino and eagle).

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