Rumor - Denon UHD Blu-ray Player?

[kristoffer]

It looks like either a Denon or Marantz UHD BD Player is forthcoming.
I really hope so! Denon was my favourite DVD player manufacture.
Vincent Teoh tweeted this:

"Finally, dropped by a Denon shindig expertly hosted by @nouscomms, & heard plenty of Denon AV gear which sounded great standalone or paired up with @BowersWilkins speakers & Panasonic UB9000 in different zones. Also saw a super-premium upcoming product under embargo… can't wait!"

[Robert Zohn]

I didn't see Vincent's post. Can you share the link.

[Grey2Grey]

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https://twitter.com/Vincent_Teoh/sta...6-ODGIERoiersg

[danny24]

Denon and Marantz have always made quality stuff. So any UHD player should be really good.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

It looks like either a Denon or Marantz UHD BD Player is forthcoming.
I really hope so! Denon was my favourite DVD player manufacture.
Vincent Teoh tweeted this:

"Finally, dropped by a Denon shindig expertly hosted by @nouscomms, & heard plenty of Denon AV gear which sounded great standalone or paired up with @BowersWilkins speakers & Panasonic UB9000 in different zones. Also saw a super-premium upcoming product under embargo… can't wait!"

If the shindig featured a Panasonic UB9000, what would lead you to speculate about a new disc player?

My guess would be a soundbar to compete with the Sonos Arc priced over $1K.

[Grey2Grey]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

If the shindig featured a Panasonic UB9000, what would lead you to speculate about a new disc player?

My guess would be a soundbar to compete with the Sonos Arc priced over $1K.

Vincent doesn't give a crap about soundbars. All he cares about are displays and sources and how to get the best from them. My money is also on a new UHD player, but I have no idea if that's what it actually is.

Originally Posted by danny24

Denon and Marantz have always made quality stuff. So any UHD player should be really good.

Not always. Their first-gen Blu-ray players were hot garbage. Super buggy, took forever to load and would often just crash and freeze. Hopefully, now that the Blu-ray and UHD formats are so mature now, those problems will be a thing of the ancient past.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by Grey2Grey

Vincent doesn't give a crap about soundbars. All he cares about are displays and sources and how to get the best from them. My money is also on a new UHD player, but I have no idea if that's what it actually is.

In other words, wishful thinking.

How do you know what Vincent cares about? For all we know he is interested in the premium soundbar space, e.g., Sennheiser and Sonos, or on point, because Denon is excited about the product, so he's obligated to be excited about it in a public forum.

That's how the world works.

The bottom line for me is why would Denon feature the top of the line Panasonic at the same event as their own super-premium disc player, albeit under embargo?

To your point, only Denon knows. In fairness, I guess stranger things have happened.

In my opinion, the premium UHD market is table scraps for Denon, just as it was for Oppo, which is why they pulled out.

If I were in their shoes, I would have an answer for the Sonos Arc, because that segment of their business is the main course.

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Originally Posted by danny24

Denon and Marantz have always made quality stuff. So any UHD player should be really good.

Excited for this---if it actually happens.

[Tok]

I believe many of those Denon DVD and BD players were rebadged Panasonics or OEMed by Matsushita with some better shells and specialized FW. I remember the one of the Panasonic clones that Denon used featured the DCDi logo on the faceplate but the Panasonic counterpart did not even though the DCDi chipset was in the Panny as well.

If Denon releases a player I would expect a 820 or a 9000 clone at higher prices. Just my $0.02.

[Noremac Mij]

Denon and Marantz were just sold to a medical supply company. I doubt they’re releasing anything.

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Denon and Marantz were just sold to a medical supply company. I doubt they’re releasing anything.

That makes absolutely no sense at all. Just because that's who they're owned by, doesn't mean they don't continue to function as audio brands that ya know, manufacture and sell audio gear for money.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by RageATL

That makes absolutely no sense at all. Just because that's who they're owned by, doesn't mean they don't continue to function as audio brands that ya know, manufacture and sell audio gear for money.

Maybe? But history has shown that these type of acquisitions never lead to anything good.

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Maybe? But history has shown that these type of acquisitions never lead to anything good.

Both of these brands have traded hands in the past and both continue to release new products each and every year.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by RageATL

Both of these brands have traded hands in the past and both continue to release new products each and every year.

And they’re both dying brands.

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

And they’re both dying brands.

Based on what?

[Tok]

Originally Posted by RageATL

Based on what?

AVRs are becoming relics. Those of us with multiple components and full surround sound setups (5.1 and higher) are a shrinking segment. Most people are opting to use soundbars.

Fewer options and manufacturers… won’t go away completely but expect higher prices and it to be more of a niche market.

[RageATL]

Folks that use soundbars are typically space limited, want a significantly simplified set-up or aren't big HT fans to begin with. Also interesting seeing as how I've experienced folks diving into set-up expansion with the advent of Atmos.

As far as "relics," so were turntables a while back and we see how that went. Same with software in the form of the CD, it made a sizable surge/comeback during the past few pandemic years.

One must also look to the scarcity of chips/processors during recent pandemic years as a reason for companies scaling back on their product line. If they were as abundant as they were even four years ago, I bet you'd still see significant product line offerings.

Ebbs and flows.

[mkozlows]

Originally Posted by RageATL

As far as "relics," so were turntables a while back and we see how that went.

They're still very niche! UHD-BD players, the thing we're talking about here, are responsible for 10x the sales volume that turntables are.

And you might say, "well, there you are: Denon makes a turntable." And you're right. They make like four of them. But that's a market they've been in for decades; I don't know how much you can compare that to a UHD-BD market they haven't been in at all.